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It's semi-official. Joey Harrington will be the third pick in the draft. The Lions are currently negotiating a deal in the neighborhood of $40 million, 7 years. Man, this draft is going fast!

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If this turn out in fact to be true I will be disappointed to say the least. This guy is going to get top 3 money, and he isn't a top 3 player. If the Lions didn't take him, he'd fall down to 10 - so why not trade down with a team that wanted Jammar and then still get your man - you'd save money and get extra picks.

I agree with what was mentioned in the other thread - By passing on Jammar, the Lions must have a plan B worked out, Donnie Abraham must all but signed for this pick to make any sense.

I wonder who will be around in the second round for us??

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Mel Kiper has Harrington rated the #3 player in this draft, and the Lions have Harrington rated above David Carr, as do other teams in the NFL. The only question mark about Harrington is total arm strength, but he throws an outstanding deep ball.

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Harrington is a good player, but I think McMahon was developing well enough considering he was a 5th round DP rookie starting in the NFL for crying out loud.

I guess McMahon can't be too disappointed either, because he wasn't supposed to start last season - he was going to be Mornhinwegs "pet project", and he still does need work.

Our most pressing needs were DB's, and unless a Shepperd or Rumph slip into the second round, we will still have holes there. Again, Millen and Mornhinweg probably know somethings that we don't know and a Abraham could be signed sealed and delivered.

I'll wait until the official announcement before I comment any further. The first three picks should take up no time at all since Carr, Peppers and Harrington are all "signed".

I was listening to ESPN and they didn't say that the Lions were in negotiations, but merely guessed at what Harrington would cost the lions. Matt Millen has been playing the game pretty well so far, and ESPN could just be another pawn in this highstakes game of draft day chess. They could be reading where Buffalo goes from here to see if they are/were interested in Harrington. If is is concluded that they werent really interested the Lions could draft Jammar with the reason for trading him to Dallas - should Harrington fall to them at #8.

Who knows - thats why we will be watching the draft.

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Maybe our most pressing need this season was DB,but the Lions need to think further out then that.Top three picks don't come around very often(hopefully)and Harrington seems to be considered a guy who can be the man for several years.If anything we now have two good young QB's for the future which is important considering how few QB's make it through a full season without injury.We are short at cornerback but we did upgrade the safety position to compensate somewhat and we may be able to pick up a vet to get through this season with.

This next season should be viewed as trying to get back to respectability,not trying to go all the way.We can address the remaining holes next season(there are just too many to take care of in one season)but Harrington was just too good to pass on.

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From the highlight tapes I've seen, the Lions already have Harrinton at QB, only his name is McMahon.

The pick made little sense as it didn't address the teams most pressing needs---speed. I'm guessing the new franchise in Texas wouldn't mind having a few northerners as fans.

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TTF,we did address speed to a certain extent.Hakim and Shroeder plus the resigning of Cro gives us tons of speed at receiver.Edwards the defensive end drafted is a speed type pass rusher.The safety from the Dolphins has improved speed over Schultz and Rice.Plus we have the rest of the draft yet and I expect it to be heavy on day two with pure speed guys.

Mac has some skills,but I'm not sure I wanted to go into next year with him as my only real option at QB.Having two guys who can be great is a good thing,especially for a team that has been so QB poor for so long.Finding a great QB is pretty hard,where finding a speedy cornerback can be done on the second day of the draft.

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/don_banks/news/2002/04/20/lions_harrington/

M&M boys

Lions' braintrust made the right move by taking Harrington

Posted: Saturday April 20, 2002 6:33 PM

ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- The Detroit Lions and Matt Millen got it right with Joey Harrington. Maybe in spite of themselves.

I don't know about you, but in the moments just after making the selection, I didn't think the Lions second-year president and CEO looked much like a man who was thrilled to have landed the draft's consensus No. 2 quarterback with the third overall pick.

Instead, Millen sounded like a guy who took one for the team. But he did it for the right reasons. And he did it after he tried hard not to.

It didn't take a degree in reading between the lines to tell that it was going against Millen's instincts in choosing to basically erase the year's worth of work that the franchise already had invested in quarterback Mike McMahon, the team's 2001 fifth-round pick. To in essence start over at the game's most important position. But taking Harrington also was in keeping with Millen's deeply held conviction that in order to rise to the league's upper echelon, you need a special player at quarterback, or at the very least a special year from your quarterback.

The consensus of the Lions personnel department and front office -- especially in the view of head coach Marty Mornhinweg -- was that Harrington rather than McMahon gives Detroit the best chance to tap into one of those two scenarios. And from the perspective of today, it's hard to knock that conclusion.

Millen was blunt when asked if he had been a Harrington man "all the way?" "No," Millen shot back. "But I am now."

For better or for worse. Millen may not have boarded the Harrington bandwagon until the last possible moment. By at least one account, there was real debate in the Lions war room. According to Harrington, Detroit was preparing to pick Texas cornerback Quentin Jammer -- the team's presumed selection all along -- as late as five mintues before Harrington received the call.

"I was unbelievably surprised," Harrington said via conference call. "Honestly, I'd been told five minutes earlier that they were going in another direction. ... Talking with my agent, the Lions organization said they were actually on the phone with Quentin Jammer's agent working on the deal. So I was just about to sit down with my mom and dad and watch the Lions pick somebody else."

Millen and Mornhinweg both dispute that version of events, saying that no such conversation took place with Jammer's agent. Still, plenty went on in Detroit's war room. Here's at least part of the story. All along, Millen's first option was to trade down a few spots, picking up extra picks to fill some of the Lions' many holes. But by his own acknowledgement, Millen had almost no trade options while the Lions were on the clock.

"Not as many as you'd think," Millen said glumly. "There was not much there."

One team that was willing to listen was No. 6 Dallas. According to a Dallas source, the Lions wanted the Cowboys to give up their second-round pick to swap places and move up to the No. 3 hole. With about six minutes to go in their 15-minute draft window, the Lions called Dallas and pitched the deal.

No dice, said the Cowboys. But Dallas was struggling with the decision of whether to offer the Lions their third-rounder in order to get up to No. 3 and select Jammer, their top-rated choice. Dallas' debate was this: Is Jammer, who plays a higher value position in cornerback, worth substantially more than the option of sitting at No. 6 and taking Oklahoma safety Roy Williams, who wound up being the Cowboys' eventual choice at No. 8?

The Cowboys' decision was made for them when Millen made it clear he wouldn't move for anything less than a second. Dallas was convinced that Millen was fishing for a deal, and the talks quickly ended.

Minutes later, Harrington was the pick.

If Millen made the selection despite his obvious confliction, at least give him credit for opting for the player who was most coveted by his head coach. Having made Mornhinweg his first key hire, Millen's name and reputation is intertwined with the coach's success. For all we know, his fate in the Motor City may be as well.

Thus, he owes Mornhinweg as much support as possible, and the greatest possible chance to make his program work. Drafting Harrington proved that, wisely or not, he was willing to lean Mornhinweg's way.

"Probably the easier pick would have been to go with the corner [Jammer]," Millen admitted. "But I know this, we have to have stability at the quarterback position. Have to. There hasn't been that here since, fill in the blank. But we're going to have it. That is one position that's going to be strong. And that pick there, along with Mike McMahon, will make sure we have not one but two good quarterbacks."

If anything, taking Harrington also ensures that the Mornhinweg era likely has another two years before it faces true accountability. The head coach bought himself an extra year because it's rare that a team grooming a young quarterback holds the head coach responsible for losing in that passer's rookie year.

By choosing Harrington, Millen did leave himself open to some understandable criticism in one respect. The pick gave the appearance that the Lions were either abandoning a key tenet of their rebuilding plan, or never had one to begin one. After preaching all spring that his team could win with McMahon at quarterback, and that improving his defensive team speed was job one, Millen found himself reversing field in order to not miss out on a potential franchise player.

And Harrington does nothing to address Detroit's still-obvious need for a No. 1 cornerback like Jammer to match up with the star receivers and quarterbacks in the NFC North? Randy Moss and the Vikings, Chicago with its bevy of tall and talented receivers, and Green Bay with the ever-dangerous Brett Favre all get the edge against Detroit's mediocre secondary.

That Millen grappled with such divergent intentions Saturday is just another example of how first-round quarterbacks are always valued differently than their draft-day counterparts. You know what they say. Until you get one, you're always looking for one.

The Harrington decision also left Millen fielding questions about whether the Lions filled a need with the pick, and thus are doing their level best to win now. To fans who suffered through last year's 2-14 debacle, it's an understandable assumption.

"We said from the beginning, the whole purpose of this was you have to have your plan together," Millen said, hedging at times. "We all know you're not going to win [without a quarterback]. You may flash, but that position is the most important. No question about it.

"So part of the plan from the beginning is we've got to get somebody who can solidify that thing. Preferably if you can get two, you get two. And we still don't know the answer. We're betting on the come on both of these kids. But we think we have a pretty good feel for where it's at. We've still got some holes, but we think we filled one of them."

Whether they filled the right one remains to be seen. That's what we begin finding out from this day on. But from this vantage point, Millen and the Lions made the tough choice they had to make. In spite of themselves, or not.

Don Banks covers pro football for CNNSI.com.

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The more I hear people ripping the selection of Harrington, the better I like the move. Rome wasn't built in a day, and no matter who we selected here was not going to make or break next season - we are still going to finish out of the play-offs and we will probably find ourselves picking in the top 10-15 next season - which is a much better position to grab a corner(Buchanon ended up going to the Raiders at #18). When you have the 3rd overall pick you have to take a franchise player - Harrington has the chance to be a franchise player. Quentin Jammer, for all of his upside is just a cornerback.

Mike McMahon wasn't supposed to be a starter last season. He was a fifth round "pet project" for Marty Mornhinweg. He was somebody who Mornhinweg thought he could develop over time into a solid quarterback. McMahon is still our starter this season, and in two or three seasons I hope we have the dilemma where we have to choose between two solid first string calibre QB's. Matt Hasselback was a late round pick who Green Bay developed and eventually turned into a first round pick when they traded him to Seattle.

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I am THRILLED that the Lions chose Harrington! The guy's good and has guts, brains and heart.

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I don't care who they picked, I just like seeing all this action and datelines coming from a place that's within a 10 minute bike ride from my house. About time something comes down this way.

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the fans that actually go to the draft are the biggest losers in the world, the morons where booing picks give me a break get a life people

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I'm not 100% sure why but I compare Harrington to Griese. Maybe it is because they both had great senior seasons and were excellent leaders. The only difference is the scouts grade Harrington higher in abilities.

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