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Okay, I'm gonna look at Sanchez and his OBP a little differently.

We know he's not going to draw very many walks, but I will consider his bunting for singles to be the equivilant of a walk for Sanchez. It's basically the same result.

So if you take his bunt singles away, he's probably hitting about .290-.300 which is pretty good and add those bunt singles instead of walks and his OBP is around. .350 - .360.

Still won't make me less made when he flubs an easy flyout, but I gotta give him credit - he's either creatively good or creatively bad.

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No.. because if you're drawing walk, it means you're being more patient and waiting for a good pitch to hit. If you're walking more, then chances are you're striking out less and probably going to get a few more hits. That's my opinion anyhow. You can't just say "Bunts make up for the walks" or "hits to the oopiste field" or anything that isn't a walk.

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I think right now Sanchez is beyond the point of having to have people defend him. I think everyone here is quite satisfied with him. He's doing a great job, far more than anyone expected. It's just the chance of him dropping that BA down to .300 and his OBP to .310 is what's worrying people. That's when you'll need to come to his defense (if that happens).

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He's been struggling the past few days since his day off, and he hasn't been bunting. He needs to bunt as much as possible.

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Another take on Sanchez....if he is going up to the plate to bunt for a hit, he obviously is looking for a specific pitch depending on what the particular game situation and defense is giving him.

That might be the reason why he is not as patient, as if he is trying to lay one down the first base line, an offspeed, outside pitch (possibly even off the plate) would be what he is looking for. Same with trying to lay one down the third base line, inside and an off-speed pitch. This could account for at least some of the reason for not being patient, as he is getting what he wants....why wait?

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Originally posted by Yoda

...If you're walking more, then chances are you're striking out less and probably going to get a few more hits...

It sounds like this would be true, but it's not always the case. Take a look at Mark Bellhorn, Jim Thome, etc. What walking does do is make a pitcher throw more pitches so: A) You should see more of his pitches and have better at-bats later and B) the pitcher should end up throwing less innings (high pitch count).

But Yoda, I agree with your sentiment - it would be nice for Alex to show some more patience. But it's hard to argue with his end results so far.

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Is it just me or does Sanchez seem to lack any batting stance or interest when at the plate. It's almost like he just throws the bat at the ball as a second thought.

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How can I put this nicely.

I am convinced Sanchez is special you know. Not retarted but not all there like Barry Sanders. He has alot of talent but his brains are mush. Barry took the drivers test like 50 times before he passed it but he excelled like Rainman on the football field. Sanchez may be autistic as well.

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Originally posted by Motor City Sonics

Still won't make me less mad when he flubs an easy flyout, but I gotta give him credit - he's either creatively good or creatively bad.

Making lemonade out of lemons, eh? Beauty.

Hey this guy just dosn't walk and that's the way it is; he never has. The last time I looked he was on track to average 13 walks for the entire season. That must be pretty close to a record for fewest walks.

In the minors he walked just 31 times in 577 plate appearences one season and he seems poised to go far lower than that this year but with a much higher batting average.

At least he's on base.

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Hey Bert!!! Let's say we call him Alex "Yost" Sanchez!

Wonder if the kids on here will understand the reference?

:confused:

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Hey, Biggie! Ha! Eddie was still walking 100 plus times a year at the end of his career for those two years with us!

Alex is who he is and he's better than all our other options.

Hey, I could stand there long enough to walk 13 times a year too, but my 600 strikeouts would rile up people more than Alex's lack of walks.

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Originally posted by BiggieG

Hey Bert!!! Let's say we call him Alex "Yost" Sanchez!

Wonder if the kids on here will understand the reference?

:confused:

Yes, because most "kids" aren't idiots.

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Originally posted by Motor City Sonics

... I will consider his bunting for singles to be the equivilant of a walk for Sanchez. It's basically the same result.

So if you take his bunt singles away, he's probably hitting about .290-.300 which is pretty good and add those bunt singles instead of walks and his OBP is around. .350 - .360.

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A few problems to nitpick ...

1) You cant pretend his bunt singles are walks and add them into his OBP. Thats counting those hits twice.

2) Take out his bunt singles and count them as outs (181 AB) and he's hitting .248. Take out the bunt singles as well as the AB (giving him 45 H, 161 AB) and he's hitting .2795. I was a little surprised to see this, as it seems even more of his value is in batting average and specifically in his ability to bunt for a hit.

3) As someone else posted, bunt hits are not necessarily the same thing as walks even though both do result in him standing on first.

A walk indicates some modicum of patience by the hitter and can lead to the hitter seeing better pitches to drive in subsequent at bats. A bunt hit indicates that the player has some speed and is more confident in his ability to win a foot race to the bag (as Sanchez did last night, sliding into first ahead of Graffanino) than he is in being able to hit the ball solidly.

I maintain that the longer Sanchez relies on bunting is a "weapon", the sooner pitchers will figure out which pitches he cant bunt and start pitching accordingly. And he will either have to figure something else out at that point or perish.

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Yes, because most "kids" aren't idiots.

Come on OT....you're no fun today, and while your thought may be true with most of the so called "kids" on Motown Sports like Cruzer, Jake, Yoda, and my favorite kid.... QS, I still think that many of them wouldn't have known who Yost was unless they looked it up on the net or in a BB encyclopedia.

:confused:

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Originally posted by BiggieG

Come on OT....you're no fun today, and while your thought may be true with most of the so called "kids" on Motown Sports like Cruzer, Jake, Yoda, and my favorite kid.... QS, I still think that many of them wouldn't have known who Yost was unless they looked it up on the net or in a BB encyclopedia.

:confused:

I did and I'm only 28.

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Originally posted by BiggieG

Hey Bert!!! Let's say we call him Alex "Yost" Sanchez!

Wonder if the kids on here will understand the reference?

:confused:

You can't change his nickname. It will always be "Dirty."

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One thing about these bunt singles is that he absolutely is, without a doubt, going to seriously injure himself with these kamikaze slides into first. If he doesn't break a hand, wrist or seperate a shoulder on his own, someone his going to collide or step on him. Alex is lucky that Mike Sweeney is somewhat agile for a first baseman, because many players would ended up kicking him or stepping on him last night.

Who would be our everyday CF if Sanchez gets hurt?

Nook Logan?

Brandon Inge?

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Originally posted by Motor City Sonics

One thing about these bunt singles is that he absolutely is, without a doubt, going to seriously injure himself with these kamikaze slides into first. If he doesn't break a hand, wrist or seperate a shoulder on his own, someone his going to collide or step on him. Alex is lucky that Mike Sweeney is somewhat agile for a first baseman, because many players would ended up kicking him or stepping on him last night.

Who would be our everyday CF if Sanchez gets hurt?

Nook Logan?

Brandon Inge?

Good point about Sanchez getting hurt, but I haven't ever heard anyone call Sweeney "somewhat agile." Generally, he's regarded as a below average first baseman with poor footwork. The Royals were toying with the idea of auditioning Sweeney in LF, which would mean even more work for Beltran, who already has to cover the right center gap when Juan Gonzalez is healthy. KC has tried Brandon Berger and Byron Gettis in LF. Berger was terrible and Gettis is not ready to hit at the major league level yet.

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Originally posted by BiggieG

Come on OT....you're no fun today, and while your thought may be true with most of the so called "kids" on Motown Sports like Cruzer, Jake, Yoda, and my favorite kid.... QS, I still think that many of them wouldn't have known who Yost was unless they looked it up on the net or in a BB encyclopedia.

:confused:

It's nice to be called a kid.:classic:

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Originally posted by Motor City Sonics

One thing about these bunt singles is that he absolutely is, without a doubt, going to seriously injure himself with these kamikaze slides into first.

This is a good point that I haven't seen anyone else bring up. Maybe because in the past many of us had a "who cares" attitude about Sanchez possibly getting injured. But as long as he is hitting .350 I guess we do care. :classic:

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Originally posted by Motor City Sonics

One thing about these bunt singles is that he absolutely is, without a doubt, going to seriously injure himself with these kamikaze slides into first. If he doesn't break a hand, wrist or seperate a shoulder on his own, someone his going to collide or step on him. Alex is lucky that Mike Sweeney is somewhat agile for a first baseman, because many players would ended up kicking him or stepping on him last night.

Who would be our everyday CF if Sanchez gets hurt?

Nook Logan?

Brandon Inge?

Let's sign that Wendell Magee kid.

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Originally posted by BiggieG

I have clothes older than most of you!?!?!:confused:

Not the leisure suit and the white belt, please not that Biggie! :cool:

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