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Pistons Interested In Spencer Dinwiddie

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February 27th 2021 at 10:54am CST by Mark Suleymanov
With the NBA trade deadline approaching, the Pistons are one of several teams interested in Nets guard Spencer Dinwiddie, according to SNY’s Ian Begley.

Dinwiddie, 27, is currently sidelined with a partially torn ACL, having undergone ACL reconstruction surgery in early January. There was some optimism that Dinwiddie may be able to return later this season, but the Nets appear prepared to finish the 2020/21 campaign without him.

The Nets are expected to be active on the buyout market and seek additional upgrades to the roster. Dinwiddie could hit free agency this upcoming offseason given his $12.3MM player option for the 2021/22 campaign.

While Dinwiddie struggled in three games before his injury this season, he averaged 20.8 PPG and 6.8 APG for the Nets in 64 games last season. Therefore, he could be a valuable piece to a team in the future despite the nature of his injury.

As Begley notes in his report, if Dinwiddie were to be traded, the team that acquires him would likely want to sign him beyond this season. The Pistons project to have cap room this summer, so Dinwiddie’s Bird rights wouldn’t necessarily be as valuable to them as they would be to some other clubs.

While it is a concern that this is Dinwiddie’s second ACL tear, players in recent years have generally made full recoveries from the injury and have been productive upon their return.

 

Well?

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15 hours ago, Hongbit said:

I don’t think we have enough Bitcoin under the luxury tax to sign him.  

I don't know.  I'm no expert on the cap.  I thought I read that "if Dinwiddie were to be traded, the team that acquires him would likely want to sign him beyond this season. The Pistons project to have cap room this summer, so Dinwiddie’s Bird rights wouldn’t necessarily be as valuable to them as they would be to some other clubs."  I took that as good to go.

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A year or two ago, I would have given an adamant yes.

But how is this team constructed going forward?

First, Dinwiddie is going to cost a pretty penny to re-sign. $10-12M/ year? Plus/minus?

Second, you have Hayes and Lee, both rookies, who will command/ deserve a fair share of minutes. Smith, who looks like he could be re-signed at maybe half the cost of Dinwiddie? On a 2-3 year contract? Just guessing... And we still have Delon Wright, at least for this year and next year, unless he's traded. At this point, it's looking like Wright will be pushed over to SG to keep minutes open for the other 3, although he could still slide back to PG if needed...

So where are we playing Dinwiddie? At SG? Is he taking minutes from Delon Wright or Hayes or Lee or Smith at PG? From Josh Jackson, Svi, or Wright at SG?

Not to mention... If we're in the top 5 Draft this year we're most likely picking up a swing player for SG/SF.

It's just looking seriously difficult to sign Dinwiddie on a Cost/ Position/ Playing Time Benefit basis. So I'd have to say no.

Last Year, I would have said definitely yes. But...

... this team has changed.

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4 hours ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

A year or two ago, I would have given an adamant yes.

But how is this team constructed going forward?

First, Dinwiddie is going to cost a pretty penny to re-sign. $10-12M/ year? Plus/minus?

Second, you have Hayes and Lee, both rookies, who will command/ deserve a fair share of minutes. Smith, who looks like he could be re-signed at maybe half the cost of Dinwiddie? On a 2-3 year contract? Just guessing... And we still have Delon Wright, at least for this year and next year, unless he's traded. At this point, it's looking like Wright will be pushed over to SG to keep minutes open for the other 3, although he could still slide back to PG if needed...

So where are we playing Dinwiddie? At SG? Is he taking minutes from Delon Wright or Hayes or Lee or Smith at PG? From Josh Jackson, Svi, or Wright at SG?

Not to mention... If we're in the top 5 Draft this year we're most likely picking up a swing player for SG/SF.

It's just looking seriously difficult to sign Dinwiddie on a Cost/ Position/ Playing Time Benefit basis. So I'd have to say no.

Last Year, I would have said definitely yes. But...

... this team has changed.

It all depends upon the entirety of the deal as well as other deals.  If some of the pieces that you mentioned get moved in deals (this one or other deals), the logjam could be alleviated.  Clearly Weaver isn’t adverse to making deals.

And if they happen to choose Mobley in the draft?  That doesn’t create a perimeter logjam.

Agree with you that the team has changed.  It’s likely to keep changing.

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I would say Wright HAS to be moved in order to take on Dinwiddie, both financially and positionally... And that means Dinwiddie is more SG and a little bit of PG for the Pistons...

Casey probably against that move as someone pointed out he loves Wright...

Weaver might be willing to do that move though based on getting the right return for a Wright trade... so we'll see what happens on that end.

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i have a sinking feeling that theyre going to stretch blake.

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Don't. Just bite the bullet and take the whole damn hit in one shot.

Which actually clears up 2022 for us quite a bit. Which is also more valuable to us as the kids will have, by that time, shown us what they can do; and then Weaver would know where he would want to make the biggest improvement. That's the time to make a big trade or have the cap to make a big move...

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Here I thought the Pistons were working on building a super team with former All-Stars Blake Griffin and Derrick Rose but I guess it wasn't meant to be. 

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Would you trade 1st rounders (with some lottery protections, especially this year) for John Collins?

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Probably not.

I like Grant at PF a lot more than SF.  And Collins is much better suited to play PF than C.  You could move Grant but you would likely get back what you just sent out to get Collins.  Also not crazy about giving Collins $100M-$125M this summer.  

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Big money but he's only 23 so it's not like handing out the big bucks for a guy too close or even past 30 that will have downside years...

I've watched a few Pistons games this year and love Grant, but don't know enough if he'd be better at PF or SF... I do see that he does almost nothing on the boards so it looks like he's getting muscled out by the bigger PF's... I don't see why he can't swing a little bit between the two (some time with Collins at PF and Grant at SF; and other times if Collins is taking a breather and/or playing small ball with Bey at SF and Grant at PF...). But I'm just thinking out loud...

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7 hours ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Would you trade 1st rounders (with some lottery protections, especially this year) for John Collins?

Nope.

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10 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

I sure hope DJ Augustin rents.  10 teams in 12 seasons.  That's got to make for a fun jersey collection.

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One week until the deadline. Ellington should be gone for a second rounder. Will be curious if Wright gets moved. He has played well and the Pistons have 3 young PG's

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https://theathletic.com/2464909/2021/03/22/detroit-pistons-trade-deadline-guide-what-im-hearing-who-stays-potential-deals-for-ellington-wright-and-others/?source=user_shared_article

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Jerami Grant: Several teams around the league have inquired about Grant, who is in the midst of a breakout season, and Detroit has shown no interest in trading him, per sources. Grant was the centerpiece of Weaver’s offseason and is someone he has a longstanding relationship with. The franchise views him as a pillar of what they’re building, and it would take a sizable haul for the Pistons to reroute their plan. Detroit has received offers involving “multiple first-round picks,” per sources, but it is unclear if any of those picks fall within the top 10 of the 2021 NBA Draft.

 

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O'Conner is the one who listed Hayes as the drafts #1 prospect.  So he clearly has a traumatic brain injury and the Drummond stuff is probably BS.

OK, Begley is a much more reliable source.  

 

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On 3/18/2021 at 12:40 PM, Sydney_Fife said:

One week until the deadline. Ellington should be gone for a second rounder. Will be curious if Wright gets moved. He has played well and the Pistons have 3 young PG's

Detroit Pistons sending Delon Wright to Sacramento Kings for Cory Joseph, picks

Well now we know.

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The Detroit Pistons are trading guard Delon Wright to the Sacramento Kings for guard Cory Joseph and two second-round picks, sources told ESPN on Wednesday night.

The picks going to Detroit will be a 2021 second-rounder via the Los Angeles Lakers and the Kings' own 2024 second-rounder, sources told ESPN. The Pistons now own three second-round picks in the 2021 draft, including Charlotte's, Toronto's and now Sacramento's.

The deal reunites Joseph with his former Toronto Raptors coach, Dwane Casey, in Detroit.

Wright, 28, is guaranteed $8.5 million for next season. He moves into the Kings' guard rotation with De'Aaron Fox, Tyrese Haliburton and Buddy Hield.

Wright has averaged 10.5 points, 4.6 rebounds and 5.1 assists for the Pistons this season.

Joseph, 29, has averaged 6.7 points in 43 games this season.

 

 

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