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Pretty much everyone agrees that Masai Ujiri is a good GM.  I have to imagine that reputation would take a big hit if he trades for Andre.

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So the biggest question facing Detroit at the deadline might be what to do with Grant.

They finally have a guy who can go get a bucket.  They finally have a guy that will/can attack the rim.  Do you trade him this year in fear he never puts up a year like this again?  I can see pretty strong arguments for keeping and trading him.

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11 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

So the biggest question facing Detroit at the deadline might be what to do with Grant.

They finally have a guy who can go get a bucket.  They finally have a guy that will/can attack the rim.  Do you trade him this year in fear he never puts up a year like this again?  I can see pretty strong arguments for keeping and trading him.

I thought about this and to me I think it may be in their best interest to trade him, if not at the deadline maybe in the offseason.  Assuming he keeps up his play the rest of the season we may be able to get a decent haul for him.    If we were closer to contention I'd say hold onto him but we only have him for 2 more years after this so short of a miracle we're not going to be in contention by then anyway.     

Of course I have no idea what his market would look like, if he can only bring something along the lines of a protected 1st and salary filler I'd keep him but if we can get a good package then I'd definitely pull the trigger.  

 

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1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

So the biggest question facing Detroit at the deadline might be what to do with Grant.

They finally have a guy who can go get a bucket.  They finally have a guy that will/can attack the rim.  Do you trade him this year in fear he never puts up a year like this again?  I can see pretty strong arguments for keeping and trading him.

 

1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

I thought about this and to me I think it may be in their best interest to trade him, if not at the deadline maybe in the offseason.  Assuming he keeps up his play the rest of the season we may be able to get a decent haul for him.    If we were closer to contention I'd say hold onto him but we only have him for 2 more years after this so short of a miracle we're not going to be in contention by then anyway.     

Of course I have no idea what his market would look like, if he can only bring something along the lines of a protected 1st and salary filler I'd keep him but if we can get a good package then I'd definitely pull the trigger.  

 

I think you deal him if possible because he doesn't fit the next reasonable window.

Isn't this upcoming offseason supposed to be the one that everyone was looking forward to?  Lots of quality free agents available?  Maybe they can find a team that is ready to "spend now", and swap a salary and good picks for Grant?

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Everyone is available for the right return, but I think you probably keep him.

Regardless of his ability to get buckets, he's not putting us in contention or hurting our lottery odds, so it doesn't prevent the rebuild.  His contract isn't an albatross like Blake's and he fits the culture you're trying to build.  You need guys like that around your draft picks.  Plus, I'm sure they want to sell some tickets/jerseys along the way and if Grant becomes an All-Star then that helps the business.

At some point you have to trade him, because if he turns into an All-Star you don't want to lose him for no return, but barring a crazy return it's probably too soon for that.

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The NBA is going to start a third round of the draft so Drummond can be traded for his proper value.

 

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10 hours ago, Deleterious said:

That fool got shut down in a contract year.  Will he even get the MLE this summer?

some stupid team will give it to him.

sacramento anyone?

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I'm all in on moving Grant at the deadline. 

Does Boston have anymore of those picks left? Grant, Brown, and Tatum would be a nice trio. All three can get you 20. Plus the perimeter defense would be amazing. Not sure they have any good picks left though.

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2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

I'm all in on moving Grant at the deadline. 

Does Boston have anymore of those picks left? Grant, Brown, and Tatum would be a nice trio. All three can get you 20. Plus the perimeter defense would be amazing. Not sure they have any good picks left though.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

They don't.

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57 minutes ago, Sydney_Fife said:

cant wait for the wtf moment when we realize we owe houston our first round pick one of these years.

2021 first round draft pick to Houston
Detroit's 1st round pick to Houston protected for selections 1-16 in 2021, 1-16 in 2022, 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Detroit by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to Houston [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020]; Houston may convey this pick to Brooklyn in 2021 (see Houston Incoming

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How long for the following players before they are no longer Pistons (and what happens to each, and who moves first):

Blake Griffin

Wayne Ellington

Delon Wright

Sekou Doumbouya

Rodney McGruder

Jahlil Okafor

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1 hour ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

How long for the following players before they are no longer Pistons (and what happens to each, and who moves first):

Blake Griffin

Wayne Ellington

Delon Wright

Sekou Doumbouya

Rodney McGruder

Jahlil Okafor

blake is bought out before the end of the year and then is picked up by a team in the west.

ellington gets dealt for a pair of second round picks.

wright stays

sekou stays

mcgruder is released at the end of the year and is out of the league next season.

okafor is out at the end of the year and is out of the league next season.

 

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3 minutes ago, Buddha said:

blake is bought out before the end of the year and then is picked up by a team in the west.

ellington gets dealt for a pair of second round picks.

wright stays

sekou stays

mcgruder is released at the end of the year and is out of the league next season.

okafor is out at the end of the year and is out of the league next season.

I agree on Blake...

But my thoughts on the other players:

Ellington gets moved but I don't see a pair of 2nds... just one. He has very limited value as a pending FA with one skill at the age of 33. He'll be gone by the deadline. Not certain if a Blake buyout beats this timeline...

Okafor and McGruder are 25 and 29... how are they out of the league next year? That's seems a wee bit harsh. I'm thinking these two players the Pistons will move on from, but they currently have 2 year contracts and before that happens, the team will need depth replacements. McGruder, maybe not so much... Maybe he's traded in the off-season to a team that wants him. Either for a 2nd, or for a player on a similar contract where the player-switch fits both teams' needs. Isn't he still a decent defender? Any young player with potential could replace him though so maybe he does get released.

For Okafor though, the team is a little low on center depth (which is funny after this past off-season); and I think they will definitely search for a depth replacement before they trade/ move on from him. I don't think he'll get released though, it'll be a trade. Maybe after they draft Mobley in the upcoming draft... At a still young 26 next year and on a cheap 1-year (expiring) contract...? Weaver will be able to get something of value for him. McGruder is an expiring next year too so, there's that...

I really like what Wright has brought to the team this year. And since he also has a 2 year... there's no reason to move on from him. But... I think the team's youth movement means Weaver will try to get value for him at some point... either in the off-season or next year's trade deadline. Actually, I should have added Dennis Smith onto this "on the bubble" list. Meaning, I think Weaver will offer a contract to Smith simply due to age, and go with Hayes-Lee-Smith at PG, and Delon Wright loses out, even if not immediately. If Weaver maximizes Wright's value... do we get a late 1st rounder at next year's deadline? As for Smith, I'm sure there are quite a few here who will disagree with my take...

Sekou is tricky. He's young... but after increasing his minutes the last few weeks... is he showing anything? I thought he was improving some but maybe not. I've seen very little of him... The question here is how much patience will the team have with him? It might be running out... although his trade value right now is zero, or less...

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why would any team want mcgruder or okafor?  better yet, why would any team give up anything for either one?

the only way they get dealt is if its part of a larger deal and they need to make the salaries work.

sekou is much more likely to get traded than either one of those, but there's little point in trading him now because his value will be low, but he is still very young and did very well in the g league despite his age.

macgruder and okafor are what they are.  and okafor plays a position that is becoming extinct in the nba and plays it poorly.

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okafor cant get minutes on the worst team in the league and he's getting older.

he'll be in europe soon or out of basketball entirely.

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