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Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Would you rather have Darnold though or a draft pick, for argument same we'll say a 2nd round pick?

I don't think the Jets would trade a 1st and 2nd but I would take the 2nd over Darnold especially since it would be a high 2nd.

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The most obvious destination is the Colts. They have the 21sr pick in the draft.  You get their 1st and 3rd you can draft a QB at 7 and best edge rusher/LB available at 21. 

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3 minutes ago, T&P_Fan said:

The most obvious destination is the Colts. They have the 21sr pick in the draft.  You get their 1st and 3rd you can draft a QB at 7 and best edge rusher/LB available at 21. 

San Francisco may be interested. They have the 12th pick plus multiple 3rds for losing Saleh and Mayhew. 

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I would prefer a trade with Houston for Watson. He’s infinitely better than the QBs after Lawrence in this draft.

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1 minute ago, sagnam said:

I would prefer a trade with Houston for Watson. He’s infinitely better than the QBs after Lawrence in this draft.

If they can trade Stafford and a 1st for Watson I would do that all day long. 

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Just now, sagnam said:

I would prefer a trade with Houston for Watson. He’s infinitely better than the QBs after Lawrence in this draft.

I would assume that everyone would see this as the dream scenario.  Not sure what the argument could be against it. I don’t think it will happen but maybe Brad Holmes is something special and can pull it off. 

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Just now, Hongbit said:

I would assume that everyone would see this as the dream scenario.  Not sure what the argument could be against it. I don’t think it will happen but maybe Brad Holmes is something special and can pull it off. 

The only way you can be against it is how many additional picks the Lions would need to add. 

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54 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The question becomes what QB do you want at #7?

My ranking is Fields, Lance, Wilson.

That's not everybody else's rankings. Wilson will be the #2 Qb in this draft.

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6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

If they can trade Stafford and a 1st for Watson I would do that all day long. 

The Stafford contract is much better than the Watson one. I don't think they can afford to trade Watson, it depends on their cap situation.

Stafford is owed 43 million over two year, with a 10m bonus due in March. The Lions will trade him before March.

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Mixed feelings, but this solution is better for everybody. 

The Lions will pick up at least a 1st round pick and likely a second pick or a player. With Holmes’s track record, a draft with two firsts and maybe two seconds or two thirds could net the team multiple cornerstone players.

Stafford could play ten more years and cement a Hall of Fame career.

But let’s remember that this is the Lions’ third franchise player to tell the franchise to get lost. Utterly embarrassing. 

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A happy day for Stafford.  His long nightmare of getting the snot kicked out of him for a 5 or 6 win team is hopefully over.

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This is a sad day for Detroit sports, and for me personally. I didn't really become a fan until probably 2007/2008ish, when I was in 8th grade. My earliest Lions memory is going 0-16 (specifically it's Orlovsky running out the back of the end zone) and then bouncing back to select Stafford. His was the first sports jersey I owned, for any sport.

He's sacrificed so much for this city and team and gotten so little in return (other than millions and millions of dollars of course). I really hope he succeeds wherever he lands, and that this day doesn't become infamous as well as sad as we flounder without a viable QB for another 50 years.

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Why would the Lions come out and say this (if they did).........they just weakened their position.     Ugh...........

 

They had to do this.  It didn't work here and he's good but breaking down.  It's time to blow it up, but thanks to Frick and Frack from New England the Lions are far worse off than an expansion team.      Bob Quinn was nothing but Bill Belichick's personal barista and Matt Patricia is one of the worst head coaches in NFL history.     

 

All hope rests with you, Mr. Yzerman...............someone do something here, all our teams are so terrible - this sucks.   

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Just now, MichiganCardinal said:

This is a sad day for Detroit sports, and for me personally. I didn't really become a fan until probably 2007/2008ish, when I was in 8th grade. My earliest Lions memory is going 0-16 (specifically it's Orlovsky running out the back of the end zone) and then bouncing back to select Stafford. His was the first sports jersey I owned, for any sport.

He's sacrificed so much for this city and team and gotten so little in return (other than millions and millions of dollars of course). I really hope he succeeds wherever he lands, and that this day doesn't become infamous as well as sad as we flounder without a viable QB for another 50 years.

Part of it is on him too.  He's good but he never elevated at the big big moments.   The record vs. winning teams is brutal and it's partially on him, he's not blameless in this.   Yes, he is BY FAR the best QB the Lions ever had, but ZERO playoff wins...........that's pretty glaring, and they had the talent a couple of times.  He didn't rise up in that Dallas game...........sure the refs were favoring Dallas, but he had too many chances to put it away and just couldn't.       And he is one of the toughest guys to ever play the position, no doubt about that, but  it was time. 

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The news was likely going to come out one way or another. It's not like they can go "psst Indy, SF, Pittsburgh, New England, New York, Washington... any of y'all want a QB??" and have that not come out somewhere.

With it out in the open like this, hopefully two teams will enter a bidding war.

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I'm sad. My 3rd favorite Lion after Barry and Sims and ahead of Calvin. Stafford absolutely was talented enough for the Lions to win with if the rest of the roster was ok enough. It's probably inevitable, and now better than the alternative, but while it may well work out well for Stafford I'm not confident that this will be good for the Lions any more than Verlander leaving was good for the Tigers.

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1 minute ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Part of it is on him too.  He's good but he never elevated at the big big moments.   The record vs. winning teams is brutal and it's partially on him, he's not blameless in this.   Yes, he is BY FAR the best QB the Lions ever had, but ZERO playoff wins...........that's pretty glaring, and they had the talent a couple of times.  He didn't rise up in that Dallas game...........sure the refs were favoring Dallas, but he had too many chances to put it away and just couldn't.       And he is one of the toughest guys to ever play the position, no doubt about that, but  it was time. 

I don't really buy the no playoff wins being a slight on him. It will be a part of his legacy without a doubt, but in the three opportunities he had in the playoffs, our defense was a sieve and didn't force a single punt against New Orleans in one (2011) and we absolutely should have won another against Dallas were it not for officiating incompetence (2014). The only one you can say he didn't perform well enough was Seattle in 2017, and even that, he was just okay. He definitely didn't lose us the game.

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10 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

I'm sad. My 3rd favorite Lion after Barry and Sims and ahead of Calvin. Stafford absolutely was talented enough for the Lions to win with if the rest of the roster was ok enough. It's probably inevitable, and now better than the alternative, but while it may well work out well for Stafford I'm not confident that this will be good for the Lions any more than Verlander leaving was good for the Tigers.

The scary part is that if they move him and have any bad luck at all replacing him they could be looking at another really terrible (i.e. < 2 win) season. Stafford may not be Tom Brady, but he is still the single biggest reason they win the games they do.

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2 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

The scary part is that if they move him and have any bad luck at all replacing him they could be looking at another really terrible (i.e. < 2 win) season. Stafford may not be Tom Brady, but he is still the single biggest reason they win the games they do.

So do you even draft a QB this season? Or wait and draft one after the 2-win season.

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Everyone acting like stafford won the lions two SuperBowls.   Shiela fires the guys her mom brought in, stafford moves on, lions get to start new with likely two first round picks, and people are sad?   They are starting over the right way.  Good on them.

Stafford is a good NFL QB, but he has proven he isn’t the difference.   He never elevated his game.  If he doesn’t want to be here, no worries.  Life goes on.  He is asking out at the exact right time for the franchise, where he will net a 1st rd pick. Happy for Stafford, happy for the lions.

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4 hours ago, lordstanley said:

So do you even draft a QB this season? Or wait and draft one after the 2-win season.

I wouldn't be opposed to this at all if Holmes and Campbell don't love what's available at 7. Bring in a cheap retread for 2021, lose a ***load of games, and get your QB in the 2022 draft.

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