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Hayes hasn't scored in the past 47 minutes he has played.  His last point came in the Atlanta game.

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No Harden tonight and Wood has 18 and 12 at the end of the 3rd quarter. 

Nice to see John Wall playing well.

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My way too early assessments...

Hayes really isn’t showing me anything on the offensive end. Can’t get by anyone, poor shooting, and struggling with ball handling under any pressure. Gives effort on defense, which I like, but he’s going to need to find one skill that he can maximize on the other end. The Harden comparisons are sounding pretty ridiculous right now  

Bey looks like a great pick at that spot. Can shoot and defend. Doesn’t have elite athleticism, but already has an NBA physique.  Looks like he could be a solid player for many years in the league. 
 
Stewart has great hustle and effort. Fans will root for him, but he doesn’t seem to have the defensive skills to be a Ben Wallace or really any offensive skills at all.  He’s great for the culture right now, but unless something about his game drastically changed, I’m not sure where he fits in an NBA rotation in a decent team.  

I’m rooting for Svi, but he’s got to get that shot back on target. If that happens, he’ll be a fan favorite lighting it up off the bench. Love his new attitude. I think he’ll settle down and be a nice spark off the  bench.

Jackson is looking like a great find. Can defend, shoot, and slash. Just needs to work on his consistency and stay on track.

At this stage of the rebuild, so far I like Grant for this team. Plays hard, plays D, can slash and hit the three on offense. He’s still settling in, but I think he’ll be fine. 

What’s up with Sekou? I expected a bigger leap for the guy that so many are hoping will turn into Pascal, but either his confidence is a mess because coach doesn’t play him enough, or he just doesn’t have that kind of ceiling to his game. 

Can we just keep Blake out? So much more fun to watch the team when he’s not doing his Taysaun Prince, pump-fake an open shot into a bad shot, impression. 
 
Plumlee has been solid. Won’t blow you away, but just does a lot of things right and fills up the stat sheet. Good player for this team at this stage. 

Wright - I could take it or leave it. He’s just a guy that gets some time on the court and doesn’t tend to impress or depress me much either way. 

Rose is Rose. Not much to say there. 

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6 hours ago, Betrayer said:

Stewart has great hustle and effort. Fans will root for him, but he doesn’t seem to have the defensive skills to be a Ben Wallace or really any offensive skills at all.  He’s great for the culture right now, but unless something about his game drastically changed, I’m not sure where he fits in an NBA rotation in a decent team.  

Rookie Isaiah Stewart drawing parallels to revered names in Pistons history: Rodman, Wallace

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Dennis Rodman was retired before Isaiah Stewart was born and Stewart was 3 when Ben Wallace led the Pistons to their third NBA title in 2004. But he’s acutely aware of where those two names rank in franchise lore.

“Oh, yeah. For sure,” the rookie said Saturday, a day after helping the Pistons to their first win of the season – and of an era whose success will be determined largely by the fates of Stewart and his fellow rookies, Killian Hayes and Saddiq Bey. “Definitely, I know their names. Their names are up there in the rafters. I see them every day in practice. I know how much they mean to the city and to the Pistons.”

After the draft, there were whispers the front office saw some of Wallace in Stewart for his hustle and how he could model his NBA success. Dwane Casey has more than once referenced Rodman’s relentlessness in discussing Stewart’s pursuit of rebounds.

That’s a lot to put on a 19-year-old robbed of any semblance of a typical rookie experience by the COVID-19 pandemic that pushed the draft to November and wiped out Summer League and the subsequent rookie development programs NBA teams tailor for their draft picks.

But Stewart is offering early validation to those who would choose two of the most hallowed names in Pistons annals as role models for the 6-foot-9, 250-pound bundle of raw energy and good intent. Through three games, he’s tied with Brooklyn’s Jarrett Allen atop the NBA’s offensive rebounding leaders at 4.0 per game. In fourth place is the Pistons all-time leader in offensive rebounds, Andre Drummond.

“To me, it’s just wanting it more than the next guy and just not being denied,” Stewart said. “It’s just a part of me. It’s who I am. If you put me out on the floor, it’s what you’re going to get out of me.”

Casey and Troy Weaver used one of the 10 in-person workouts each NBA team was allotted to go to Buffalo, N.Y., Stewart’s home town, to meet with him face to face. Weaver was already a believer based on all the background work he’d done that predated his hiring as Pistons general manager last June.

Casey, who met his wife, Brenda, when he was an assistant coach under George Karl in Seattle and still keeps a home there, also knew of Stewart from that link to Seattle.

“I thought he was a hard charger,” Casey said. “Being from Seattle, I knew about his presence and his game, how he played there. We went to his workout in Buffalo – he’d still be working out if we didn’t have a flight to catch.”

Stewart struck Casey as curious, thoughtful and earnest during the workout, which matched everything Weaver had come to know, using his connection to Stewart’s college coach, Mike Hopkins, who served with Weaver as assistants to Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim in the early ’00s.

“There’s only one or two guys in my years of NBA draft workouts who asked the question, ‘Am I doing it right’ with pick-and-roll defense. ‘Let me try it here,’ and actually tried to do it. A very high basketball IQ guy. He’s very thoughtful. He was working out with a purpose,” Casey said.

Stewart left that meeting with the Pistons with the same sense of excitement Weaver and Casey felt.

“When I met with them in the predraft process, it was definitely a different vibe,” Stewart said. “Coach Casey was telling me their vision and what they wanted me to do. They felt like I fit and I felt the same way.”

Yet the Pistons went into draft night with the No. 7 pick – and only the No. 7 pick. There didn’t seem to be a way for the Pistons to wind up with Stewart, especially after drafting Killian Hayes with their lottery pick.

But Weaver was moving chess pieces behind the scenes and Stewart had an inkling – likely based on solid ground – that the Pistons were doing what needed to be done to reel him in.

“I had some reason to believe. I didn’t have no doubt,” he said. “Troy gets things done and that’s exactly what he did on draft night.”

When the Pistons wound up with the 16th pick, acquired in trade from Houston with a pick it had acquired earlier in the week for shipping Robert Covington to Portland, Stewart could begin packing his bag for Detroit.

“I was ready to get to work right away,” he said. “I was ready to grind. I was excited, but I was really more excited to fly out early the next day and get here and get to work.”

Stewart didn’t play in the first three Pistons games, but when Jahlil Okafor couldn’t go in game four at Atlanta Casey turned to Stewart. Even with Okafor back, Stewart has kept his spot in the rotation – and done nothing to warrant losing it. It’s been six weeks since he found out which NBA uniform he’d be wearing and there is much left to learn, but Casey at least knows he doesn’t have to coach effort with his eager rookie.

“You just try to teach,” Casey said. “But I’ll say this: It’s much easier to say ‘whoa’ than it is to say ‘giddyup.’ It’s one of those things I love about him. He plays hard and gets after it.”

There are a few guys whose jerseys hang in the rafters above Isaiah Stewart’s head as he toils whose NBA epitaphs read similarly.

 

It would seem like getting Wallace to mentor Stewart would be doable.  If Stewart is the sponge that this article describes him as, get as much of Wallace's knowledge into Stewart's body as possible.  Isn't Wallace still tied to the organization through the G League, player development or ownership role or something?

Heck, Rodman's probably looking for a few bucks.  I don't know how much of Rodman's rebound reads (specifically his foreshadowing of where to go based off of shot angles and such) can be taught.  But if there's something there, I'd say try it.

Offensively, yes, it looks he's going to need a lot of help.  But while he has youth and spring on his legs, cleaning up around the hoop is sufficient for now on a rebuilding team.

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I am comfortable keeping Dennis Rodman as far away from my young team as possible.  I don't need my guys scurrying off to North Korea in a wedding dress.  

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Time Lord is abusing Okafor.  

Grant had 12 in the 1st quarter.  

Pretty sure this is on NBATV for those out of the market.  

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Someone needs to track Blakes shot to pass ratio this year.  It seems like every time he touches the ball a shot is going up.

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Svi getting another chance with Jackson out.  His shot selection was terrible to start the season.  If he sticks to playing a role and not just jacking up shots on a really bad team, he'll be fine.  

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So they have fans at the game?  They just announced two celebrities and both were live at the game.

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The team is definitely terrible but I find them much more entertaining to watch thus far than any team in recent years.    

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Why didn't the PIstons use a timeout?  Was the graphic on the bottom of the screen wrong and they didn't have one or something?

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2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Why didn't the PIstons use a timeout?  Was the graphic on the bottom of the screen wrong and they didn't have one or something?

I think it was wrong.  Greg said they didn't have a timeout left.

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Time to approach Blake about a buyout.  Other than chasing a ring he really has no incentive to lose money and take a buyout, so maybe they should just cut him.

He is on the books the next two years no matter what.  Do we really care if he is on the court or not?  Dumping him allows Grant to move to the 4 and opens more backup minutes for Sekou at PF.  It also allows Bey to start at SF with Grant moving to PF.  I think the young guys would be better off with Blake gone.

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Perfect tank game. Competitive, a few of the young guys showed flashes and lose.

I might come out looking like an idiot about the Grant contract. Still early days but he's been really good the first 6 games and worth the money thus far.

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18 minutes ago, NYLion said:

Perfect tank game. Competitive, a few of the young guys showed flashes and lose.

I might come out looking like an idiot about the Grant contract. Still early days but he's been really good the first 6 games and worth the money thus far.

Agree on Grant.  I am not as down about that contract now.  Still wouldn't say I like it but at least feel there's a chance that turns out okay.  I do feel confident in saying I think the Plumlee deal is going to turn out real nice for us.  

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