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7 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

The next big market inefficiency for college basketball recruiting - players not quite good enough to leave early.

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Pritchard is off to a very nice start for a rookie.

I believe Javonte Green is out for Boston.  And Walker is out for another month or so.

 

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Looking at the next four games.  Boston x2 and Milwaukee x2 means 0-8 is a real possibility.  Then going further, I'm not real sure where the first win comes from.  Washington on the 15th is a good chance for a win.  Cleveland or Golden State should be, but Detroit already lost to both of them once.  

That is 37 games listed and I'm struggling to find 6 or 7 wins.

5 Fri, Jan 1, 2021 7:00p       Boston Celtics                
6 Sun, Jan 3, 2021 3:00p       Boston Celtics                
7 Mon, Jan 4, 2021 8:00p     @ Milwaukee Bucks                
8 Wed, Jan 6, 2021 8:00p     @ Milwaukee Bucks                
9 Fri, Jan 8, 2021 7:00p       Phoenix Suns                
10 Sun, Jan 10, 2021 3:00p       Utah Jazz                
11 Wed, Jan 13, 2021 7:00p       Milwaukee Bucks                
12 Fri, Jan 15, 2021 7:00p       Washington Wizards                
13 Sat, Jan 16, 2021 8:00p     @ Miami Heat                
14 Mon, Jan 18, 2021 3:00p     @ Miami Heat                
15 Wed, Jan 20, 2021 7:30p     @ Atlanta Hawks                
16 Fri, Jan 22, 2021 7:00p       Houston Rockets                
17 Sat, Jan 23, 2021 7:00p       Philadelphia 76ers                
18 Mon, Jan 25, 2021 7:00p       Philadelphia 76ers                
19 Wed, Jan 27, 2021 7:00p     @ Cleveland Cavaliers                
20 Thu, Jan 28, 2021 7:00p       Los Angeles Lakers                
G Date Start (ET)       Opponent     Tm Opp W L Streak Notes
21 Sat, Jan 30, 2021 8:30p     @ Golden State Warriors                
22 Mon, Feb 1, 2021 9:00p     @ Denver Nuggets                
23 Tue, Feb 2, 2021 9:00p     @ Utah Jazz                
24 Fri, Feb 5, 2021 9:00p     @ Phoenix Suns                
25 Sat, Feb 6, 2021 10:00p     @ Los Angeles Lakers                
26 Tue, Feb 9, 2021 7:00p       Brooklyn Nets                
27 Thu, Feb 11, 2021 7:00p       Indiana Pacers                
28 Sun, Feb 14, 2021 6:00p     @ Boston Celtics                
29 Tue, Feb 16, 2021 7:00p       San Antonio Spurs                
30 Wed, Feb 17, 2021 8:30p     @ Dallas Mavericks                
31 Fri, Feb 19, 2021 8:00p     @ Memphis Grizzlies                
32 Sun, Feb 21, 2021 6:00p     @ Orlando Magic                
33 Tue, Feb 23, 2021 7:00p     @ Orlando Magic                
34 Wed, Feb 24, 2021 8:00p     @ New Orleans Pelicans                
35 Fri, Feb 26, 2021 7:00p       Sacramento Kings                
36 Sun, Feb 28, 2021 6:00p       New York Knicks                
37 Tue, Mar 2, 2021 7:30p     @ Toronto Raptors  

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6 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

The next big market inefficiency for college basketball recruiting - players not quite good enough to leave early.

I’m surprised that it hasn’t happened yet.  Or maybe it has, but it’s too tough to do consistently?

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For a while there MSU and Izzo operated like that, if memory serves me right I vaguely remembering him talking about it some 10 or so years ago.  Then about 5 or so years ago after Kentucky started putting all those dominating classes and winning championships with Calipari he changed his thought process and started going after the elite HS prospects even if it meant only keeping them for a year.  

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3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Looking at the next four games.  Boston x2 and Milwaukee x2 means 0-8 is a real possibility.  Then going further, I'm not real sure where the first win comes from.  Washington on the 15th is a good chance for a win.  Cleveland or Golden State should be, but Detroit already lost to both of them once.  

That is 37 games listed and I'm struggling to find 6 or 7 wins.

5 Fri, Jan 1, 2021 7:00p       Boston Celtics                
6 Sun, Jan 3, 2021 3:00p       Boston Celtics                
7 Mon, Jan 4, 2021 8:00p     @ Milwaukee Bucks                
8 Wed, Jan 6, 2021 8:00p     @ Milwaukee Bucks                
9 Fri, Jan 8, 2021 7:00p       Phoenix Suns                
10 Sun, Jan 10, 2021 3:00p       Utah Jazz                
11 Wed, Jan 13, 2021 7:00p       Milwaukee Bucks                
12 Fri, Jan 15, 2021 7:00p       Washington Wizards                
13 Sat, Jan 16, 2021 8:00p     @ Miami Heat                
14 Mon, Jan 18, 2021 3:00p     @ Miami Heat                
15 Wed, Jan 20, 2021 7:30p     @ Atlanta Hawks                
16 Fri, Jan 22, 2021 7:00p       Houston Rockets                
17 Sat, Jan 23, 2021 7:00p       Philadelphia 76ers                
18 Mon, Jan 25, 2021 7:00p       Philadelphia 76ers                
19 Wed, Jan 27, 2021 7:00p     @ Cleveland Cavaliers                
20 Thu, Jan 28, 2021 7:00p       Los Angeles Lakers                
G Date Start (ET)       Opponent     Tm Opp W L Streak Notes
21 Sat, Jan 30, 2021 8:30p     @ Golden State Warriors                
22 Mon, Feb 1, 2021 9:00p     @ Denver Nuggets                
23 Tue, Feb 2, 2021 9:00p     @ Utah Jazz                
24 Fri, Feb 5, 2021 9:00p     @ Phoenix Suns                
25 Sat, Feb 6, 2021 10:00p     @ Los Angeles Lakers                
26 Tue, Feb 9, 2021 7:00p       Brooklyn Nets                
27 Thu, Feb 11, 2021 7:00p       Indiana Pacers                
28 Sun, Feb 14, 2021 6:00p     @ Boston Celtics                
29 Tue, Feb 16, 2021 7:00p       San Antonio Spurs                
30 Wed, Feb 17, 2021 8:30p     @ Dallas Mavericks                
31 Fri, Feb 19, 2021 8:00p     @ Memphis Grizzlies                
32 Sun, Feb 21, 2021 6:00p     @ Orlando Magic                
33 Tue, Feb 23, 2021 7:00p     @ Orlando Magic                
34 Wed, Feb 24, 2021 8:00p     @ New Orleans Pelicans                
35 Fri, Feb 26, 2021 7:00p       Sacramento Kings                
36 Sun, Feb 28, 2021 6:00p       New York Knicks                
37 Tue, Mar 2, 2021 7:30p     @ Toronto Raptors  

Oh heck, the game is in Detroit?  I hope they didn’t see the game thread headline and travel to Boston.

They’ll win a game they shouldn’t.  Maybe PHX rests Paul on 01/08 before their 01/09 game at IND?  Or maybe they win the 01/16 game in MIA because it would make absolutely no sense at all?

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18 for Grant at halftime.  Jackson with 8.  

Rose has 11 and I hate to bust on him because of that.  But its all iso BS.  The put your head down and Rodney Stuckey it to the basket type stuff that I can't stand.  

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Bey is having a nice game.  Not just the shooting, his defense has been solid as well.

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Grant gets a little wild now and then.  He needs to realize he doesn't have to shoot every drive.

The fake crowd is really into this one.

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Grant is ice cold in the second half.

Not sure why they play Hayes off the ball.  You usually do that with a shooter.

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Impressed they pulled this one out after Boston came back from that big deficit.  I thought for sure they were done after that but they proved me wrong.   

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Messes up the #tankforcade plan but still fun to watch.

Bey was player of the game IMO.  

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5 hours ago, Casimir said:

 

They’ll win a game they shouldn’t. 

I should get a game ball from tonight’s game.

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2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

No Blaha tonight so I can watch the home broadcast.  

I thought I was the only one that didnt have a favorable opinion of Blaha.

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7 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

For a while there MSU and Izzo operated like that, if memory serves me right I vaguely remembering him talking about it some 10 or so years ago.  Then about 5 or so years ago after Kentucky started putting all those dominating classes and winning championships with Calipari he changed his thought process and started going after the elite HS prospects even if it meant only keeping them for a year.  

or - hear me out - izzo started paying the going rate and all of a sudden 5* kids started going to msu.  unless you're under the mistaken impression that kids turn down $250k from kentucky to go to michigan state or duke for a semester before going pro...

and izzo usually takes 5* kids and makes them into 4 year players rather than taking 4 year players and making them into top draft picks, lol.

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11 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Looking at the next four games.  Boston x2 and Milwaukee x2 means 0-8 is a real possibility. 

You put the reverse hex on 'em Del!

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9 minutes ago, Buddha said:

or - hear me out - izzo started paying the going rate and all of a sudden 5* kids started going to msu.  unless you're under the mistaken impression that kids turn down $250k from kentucky to go to michigan state or duke for a semester before going pro...

and izzo usually takes 5* kids and makes them into 4 year players rather than taking 4 year players and making them into top draft picks, lol.

I'm not under the impression of anything, I'm just saying from 2003(Shannon Brown) till about 2014-15 ish MSU never really got any nor heavily recruited any top 5 prospects.   I just vaguely remember hearing(may have been Valenti since he's an MSU alum) that Izzo didn't think it was beneficial to the team to bring in a 1 and done guy, he didn't think you could win with a player like that.  It wasn't until Kentucky dominated with Anthony Davis and the rest of those Freshmen where he changed his philosophy and started going after guys heavily that were going to be 1 and done guys.   Started around the time he recruited Jabari Parker heavily, who at the time was considered one of the premier HS prospects to come along in awhile.

Also the last couple elite guys he got like Jackson and Bridges still ended up being lottery picks.  

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