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2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I could see Wilson and a pick for Watson. Trade two disgruntled QBs for each other. 

I couldn't see this happening at all...

Not. At. All.

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As great as Watson is he has to realize that whatever team he goes to is going to really be behind the 8 ball due to his contract and how much it will cost to trade for him.  It's like a catch 22, he wants talent around him and wants to win but when your cap hit is 40 million(starting in 2022) and the team you go to has to sacrifice atleast the equivalent of 3 1st rounders to trade for you it really makes it tough to put that team around you.  

 

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7 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

As great as Watson is he has to realize that whatever team he goes to is going to really be behind the 8 ball due to his contract and how much it will cost to trade for him.  It's like a catch 22, he wants talent around him and wants to win but when your cap hit is 40 million(starting in 2022) and the team you go to has to sacrifice atleast the equivalent of 3 1st rounders to trade for you it really makes it tough to put that team around you.  

 

Absolutely!  This is the part I think gets over looked.  Want to win?  Take a hit on salary like Brady always did.  I do no think you can have both.  Take the money or the winning.

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5 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

As great as Watson is he has to realize that whatever team he goes to is going to really be behind the 8 ball due to his contract and how much it will cost to trade for him.  It's like a catch 22, he wants talent around him and wants to win but when your cap hit is 40 million(starting in 2022) and the team you go to has to sacrifice atleast the equivalent of 3 1st rounders to trade for you it really makes it tough to put that team around you.  

 

im pretty sure watson just wants to be out of houston.

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6 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

At this stage everyone is playing nice together. I hope it works and I hope they all continue to play nice together.

I am glad that Sheila is heavily involved. The problem before has been from a lack of ownership knowledge about or involvement in the football operations. (And no, this is not me saying I want Sheila to be Jerry Jones.)

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1 hour ago, Jason_R said:

At this stage everyone is playing nice together. I hope it works and I hope they all continue to play nice together.

I am glad that Sheila is heavily involved. The problem before has been from a lack of ownership knowledge about or involvement in the football operations. (And no, this is not me saying I want Sheila to be Jerry Jones.)

There is definitely a happy medium between having a baseline understanding about the league, your organization, the game of football and being Jerry Jones, meddling in every decision. I'm glad she's not Jerry Jones out there wanting to make football decision. At the same time, I am equally elated to see she isn't an aloof owner like her father was, a person who knew nothing about the game and could care less what the people under him did.

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The only way I want Sheila to step in and assert her authority is if Holmes starts doing things like Matt Millen.

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53 minutes ago, Kamakzie said:

The only way I want Sheila to step in and assert her authority is if Holmes starts doing things like Matt Millen.

What if he starts doing stuff like Bob Quinn?

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48 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

What if he starts doing stuff like Bob Quinn?

Same thing applies.

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I mean, Tyrell Williams is a warm body who can catch the football for next year. Given that he is 29 and was only signed on for a 1 year deal, I doubt he'll be with the team when we are ready to be through the rebuild and competitive, unless Holmes and Campbell think we can compete next year.

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6'4 and averages over 15 yards per catch. Seems like a big play threat. Long history with Lynn. Have to give Goff something to work with to see if he is the answer or not. 

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On 2/23/2021 at 2:31 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I like Sheila getting more involved. This way she can justifiably step in, grab the draft card and rip it up when it says Kyle Pitts, Detroit Lions, #7 before it gets to Goodell to read.

This would actually be a pretty good pick. There are a handful of elite talents in the draft, and he's one of them. Don't overreact to positional value.

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The more I read about Pitts the more I like him,  I'm not necessarily advocating him but Im not against it either.   

He is listed as a TE but he is more than capable of lining up on the outside and I wouldn't be surprised if that's where he ends up playing a good chunk of his snaps in the NFL.  He can line up outside,  in the slot or as a Tight End So if you're OK with drafting a WR you should be OK with taking Pitts. 

With that said we heard many of the same things about Ebron and that didn't work out so I get why Lions fans are apprehensive about it but Im not willing to hold Ebron struggles against Pitts.

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15 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

The more I read about Pitts the more I like him,  I'm not necessarily advocating him but Im not against it either.   

He is listed as a TE but he is more than capable of lining up on the outside and I wouldn't be surprised if that's where he ends up playing a good chunk of his snaps in the NFL.  He can line up outside,  in the slot or as a Tight End So if you're OK with drafting a WR you should be OK with taking Pitts. 

With that said we heard many of the same things about Ebron and that didn't work out so I get why Lions fans are apprehensive about it but Im not willing to hold Ebron struggles against Pitts.

I know this is a highlight package so it isn't the best scouting method but you can see him lining up all over the field and being effective.  I particularly like seeing him out run SEC defenders down the field. 

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Yeah, he looks like a big receiver out there...

Oh just shoot me if we draft a TE with our #7...

But Damn... he looks good out there... Thinking of the Pats and their damn 2-TE sets...

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3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

The more I read about Pitts the more I like him,  I'm not necessarily advocating him but Im not against it either.   

He is listed as a TE but he is more than capable of lining up on the outside and I wouldn't be surprised if that's where he ends up playing a good chunk of his snaps in the NFL.  He can line up outside,  in the slot or as a Tight End So if you're OK with drafting a WR you should be OK with taking Pitts. 

With that said we heard many of the same things about Ebron and that didn't work out so I get why Lions fans are apprehensive about it but Im not willing to hold Ebron struggles against Pitts.

No. No. No. no. No. nein. No no no no

 

Have I said no enough yet?

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4 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

The more I read about Pitts the more I like him,  I'm not necessarily advocating him but Im not against it either.   

He is listed as a TE but he is more than capable of lining up on the outside and I wouldn't be surprised if that's where he ends up playing a good chunk of his snaps in the NFL.  He can line up outside,  in the slot or as a Tight End So if you're OK with drafting a WR you should be OK with taking Pitts. 

With that said we heard many of the same things about Ebron and that didn't work out so I get why Lions fans are apprehensive about it but Im not willing to hold Ebron struggles against Pitts.

Ebron wasn’t even a thought. They already spent high draft capital on a TE with Hockenson.  He’s working out too.   If you value Pitts because he can play outside,  they should just draft one of the gamebreaking WR. At least 1, and probably 2 will still be there at 7. 

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36 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Ebron wasn’t even a thought. They already spent high draft capital on a TE with Hockenson.  He’s working out too.   If you value Pitts because he can play outside,  they should just draft one of the gamebreaking WR. At least 1, and probably 2 will still be there at 7. 

You value Pitts because he has rare skills. He's not redundant to Hockenson, he'd play with him. He's a chess piece. You can put him in the backfield, in the slot, outside, in motion. He can run a full tree. He can help both the passing and running game. He and Hockenson together would create a lot of mismatches.

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4 hours ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Yeah, he looks like a big receiver out there...

Oh just shoot me if we draft a TE with our #7...

But Damn... he looks good out there... Thinking of the Pats and their damn 2-TE sets...

Pitts: 6'6" 240

Calvin Johnson: 6'5" 235

Mike Evans: 6'5" 230

Brandon Marshall: 6'5" 230

Andre Johnson: 6'3" 230

Rob Gronkowski: 6'6" 265

Travis Kelce: 6'5" 260

George Kittle: 6'4" 250

TJ Hockenson: 6'5" 250

Pitts is bigger than the biggest WRs ever, smaller than the prototypical TE. I don't know what to make of it, but I'd want to ask whether he has the speed to run away from NFL DBs, or the physicality to stand up to NFL LBs.

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If Goodell says "With the 7th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Kyle Pitts. Wide Receiver. Florida."

everyone loves it.

If Goodell says "With the 7th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Kyle Pitts. Tight End. Florida."

everyone hates it.

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21 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Is Pitts Eric Ebron with better hands and no attitude issues?

Pitts is 2" taller and more productive than Ebron was and did it against tougher competition.  It's a lazy comp by my part but since I remember hearing the same things about Ebron pre draft(he's listed as a TE but can play anywhere) that I said about Pitts I figured I'd bring him up.    

 

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