Jump to content
Mr.TaterSalad

Matt Patricia/Bob Quinn fired - Holmes/Cambell Hired as GM/Coach

Recommended Posts

30 minutes ago, T&P_Fan said:

This has all the makings of same ole lions.  

It does. I like that they are taking their time but none of the news coming out today is particularly encouraging.

Then again, the best candidates on paper don't always turn out to be the best hires so we'll see.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

BetMGM Michigan $600 Risk-Free bet

BetMGM Michigan Sports Betting
Michigan online sports betting is now available! Start betting at BetMGM Michigan now and get a $600 risk-free bet bonus at their online sportsbook & casino.

Claim $600 risk-free bet at BetMGM Michigan Now

I'm confused as well. I understand a certain level of anxiety, these are huge moves they're deliberating, but there is no reason to believe that any news coming out is bad news, or SOL... other than that it's being made by the Lions, and that's been the case for over 50 years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, MichiganCardinal said:

See, now that is a move that would deserve panic. Not bringing in Holmes for a second interview.

I think Mayhew is worthy of a second chance. He inherited a 0-16 team got them to the playoffs in 3 seasons. He didn't leave the cupboard bare for Quinn either. Those 9-7 teams that Quinn led were done with his players. If I'm a GM candidate, I wouldn't touch the Washington job with a 10 foot pole. Me thinks this is also to satisfy the Rooney rule as well. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

What is not encouraging? Did we really expect Dodds to sign a contract after one Zoom interview?

Saleh going for a 2nd interview with the Jets pretty much ruling him out here. Holmes coming in for a 2nd, in person interview.

I've been fixated on the Dodds/Saleh combo so it's more my own personal disappointment. Not that Holmes would be a bad hire or that Saleh is the next Belichick.

We'll see what happens. I'm sure there will be more twists and turns 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I think Mayhew is worthy of a second chance. He inherited a 0-16 team got them to the playoffs in 3 seasons. He didn't leave the cupboard bare for Quinn either. Those 9-7 teams that Quinn led were done with his players. If I'm a GM candidate, I wouldn't touch the Washington job with a 10 foot pole. Me thinks this is also to satisfy the Rooney rule as well. 

I was more referring to had the Lions interviewed Mayhew, because I tend to agree he may be worth a retread someplace else.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, NYLion said:

Saleh going for a 2nd interview with the Jets pretty much ruling him out here. Holmes coming in for a 2nd, in person interview.

I've been fixated on the Dodds/Saleh combo so it's more my own personal disappointment. Not that Holmes would be a bad hire or that Saleh is the next Belichick.

We'll see what happens. I'm sure there will be more twists and turns 

I wouldn't rule out Saleh just by his having accepted a second interview in New York. Even if they offered him the job today, if he may want the Detroit job more he can ask for time to consider. I don't think we should be banking on just being our preferred candidate's only option.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, NYLion said:

Saleh going for a 2nd interview with the Jets pretty much ruling him out here. Holmes coming in for a 2nd, in person interview.

I've been fixated on the Dodds/Saleh combo so it's more my own personal disappointment. Not that Holmes would be a bad hire or that Saleh is the next Belichick.

We'll see what happens. I'm sure there will be more twists and turns 

Dodds just did his 1st interview today. He could still be called back for a 2nd interview. Holmes first interview a week ago. There are probably going to be other 2nd interviews. 

The door isn't closed on Saleh. I also don't believe he is the be all and end all. I think Arthur Smith is an underrated coaching candidate. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
49 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I think Mayhew is worthy of a second chance. He inherited a 0-16 team got them to the playoffs in 3 seasons. He didn't leave the cupboard bare for Quinn either. Those 9-7 teams that Quinn led were done with his players. If I'm a GM candidate, I wouldn't touch the Washington job with a 10 foot pole. Me thinks this is also to satisfy the Rooney rule as well. 

I’m going to to say something that I’ve rarely said in thIs forum.  

I agree 100% with MB.  

Mayhew getting another shot as a GM isn’t such a horrible idea.    It would be a reach with the Lions but he’s done enough in SF to earn another shot somewhere. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

I think Mayhew is worthy of a second chance. He inherited a 0-16 team got them to the playoffs in 3 seasons. He didn't leave the cupboard bare for Quinn either. Those 9-7 teams that Quinn led were done with his players. If I'm a GM candidate, I wouldn't touch the Washington job with a 10 foot pole. Me thinks this is also to satisfy the Rooney rule as well. 

can't.....catch....breath......must.....sit......down.......

xDxDxD

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Motown Bombers said:

Ok.

just playin'

TBH,  I wouldn't be surprised if Suh didn't cost Mayhew as much good will with ownership as the team's record under his watch. All in all though, even if he might have eventually taken the Lions to greater success, I have a hard time seeing SHF bringing back the guy Mom fired.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

just playin'

TBH,  I wouldn't be surprised if Suh didn't cost Mayhew as much good will with ownership as the team's record under his watch. All in all though, even if he might have eventually taken the Lions to greater success, I have a hard time seeing SHF bringing back the guy Mom fired.

i think mayhew's terrible drafts post suh  and inability to get a team with stafford/suh/calvin johnson to a playoff win cost him more with ownership than anything suh did.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I really, really, really hate it when a team puts a huge value on an interview for a job like a football coach. Interview talent/presentation has almost no correlation with any of the skills actually demanded of a great coach. Look at the guy's record, talk to everyone you can find that  has known him/played for him, but don't talk you yourself out a choice because someone else tells a better story in a set of interviews. if you have done your research all the interview should be for is to make sure the guy has no loose screws - it should be a stop gate only. Otherwise you will fully deserve your next Matt Millen.

Actually, head coach of a football team may be one of the only jobs where an interview is directly relevant to the duties of the job. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Jason_R said:

Actually, head coach of a football team may be one of the only jobs where an interview is directly relevant to the duties of the job. 

how do you figure that? The PR piece maybe, but that part doesn't help him put a winning team on the field.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Colbert’s contract is up in a few months so Pittsburgh is either giving him a raise and an extension or letting him walk.  

His contract is up every year. He just works on a series of one year deals. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

how do you figure that? The PR piece maybe, but that part doesn't help him put a winning team on the field.

“The PR piece.” A head coach does at least several dozen, and maybe up to a hundred, interviews a year with the media each year, making him — alongside the QB — the most important brand ambassador for a business worth multiple billions of dollars. (The PR piece is not an important consideration to fans, but it is to owners.)

In addition to that, your HC has to be able to communicate effectively with players and coaches. From training camp through a 17 week regular season, the HC is probably going to have about a hundred players cycle through his roster (not to mention more than a dozen coaches and a ton of other staff. If your HC is a bad communicator — uninspiring, unserious, uncaring, unsure, or whatever else — those players, coaches, and staff are going to find his weakness. 

The biggest jobs of the HC are to set a vision for the franchise, and to get 150 grown men to sacrifice for it.  That’s going to take championship communication all year long.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

 

The biggest jobs of the HC are to set a vision for the franchise, and to get 150 grown men to sacrifice for it.  That’s going to take championship communication all year long.

 

but building long term relationships and deep respect are quite different from the ability to produce fireworks in short term relationships (ie. the interview) and do not necessary relate to one another in any number of personality types. And I would be willing to posit that few coaches show in any interview the personality they put on in the locker room or training program. You can find that out talking to his players, but he's not going to demonstrate it for you - which is my point. Do you think Matt Patricia showed the personality his players saw  to the non-Quinn members of his interview team?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I highly doubt Matt Patricia showed up late to his interview with the Lions like he did team meetings with his players.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A bit late seeing this (in Twitter time at least), but it appears they do plan on bringing Dodds (+Fontenot, Ireland, and Paton) in for a second interview as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Keepleyland2 said:

His contract is up every year. He just works on a series of one year deals. 

Yes. So when he signs the next one it won’t have anything to do with playing the Lions for a bigger deal. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


Michigan Sports Betting Offer

Michigan launched online sports betting and casino apps on Friday, January 22, 2021. We have selected the top Michigan sportsbooks and casinos that offer excellent bonus offers. Terms and conditions apply.

BetRivers Michigan - Get a 100% up to $250 deposit bonus at their online sportsbook & casino.

Click Here to claim $250 deposit bonus at BetRivers Michigan For Signing Up Now

FanDuel Michigan - Get a $1,000 risk-free bet at FanDuel Michigan on your first bet.

Click Here to claim $1,000 Risk-Free Bet at FanDuel Michigan

BetMGM Michigan - Get a $600 risk-free bet at the BetMGM online casino & sportsbook

Click Here to claim $600 risk-free bet at BetMGM Michigan

   


×
×
  • Create New...