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5 hours ago, Hongbit said:

I made a mention because I wanted to keep the conversation going in the active catch all Lions thread rather than bumping an old thread from last year.  

Since Diggs is the same player as last year when he was traded and Lions are often overlooked for the pro bowl does this mean that Tracy Walker and Will Harris were snubbed too and should be pro bowlers? 

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Yeah, I’ve been a hard no on Rick Smith since he was first mentioned.  That would be a disastrous hire.

We will see what Spielman is about.  Smith and Pioli, I get why you would interview as many people as possible, hear it all, no issue with that strategy.  But i hope they aren’t serious contenders, just part of the process.  Real curious to see where Sheila takes this franchise.  I can endure more of the same, it’s all I know.  Would be nice to see something good though.  

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6 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

looking at what is out there vs. Tampa Bay,  Bob Quinn might actually be worse than Millen.   

Millen was here longer and has a worst record but he never inherited a player like Stafford.  If he inherited a QB like Stafford those Lions teams wouldn't have looked as bad as they did.  Quinn inherited Stafford and put virtually nothing around him.   If he didn't have Stafford they'd be lucky to win 3 games tops a year during his time which is worse than Millen.  

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2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Millen was here longer and has a worst record but he never inherited a player like Stafford.  If he inherited a QB like Stafford those Lions teams wouldn't have looked as bad as they did.  Quinn inherited Stafford and put virtually nothing around him.   If he didn't have Stafford they'd be lucky to win 3 games tops a year during his time which is worse than Millen.  

that's what I was thinking..........Millen never had a Stafford, the 0-16 year (Millen was fired after 3 games, but it's still on him), Dan Orlovsky was the starting QB most of that season.

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7 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

that's what I was thinking..........Millen never had a Stafford, the 0-16 year (Millen was fired after 3 games, but it's still on him), Dan Orlovsky was the starting QB most of that season.

Millen inherited a team that was 9-7 and a Bears FG away from being 10-6 and making the playoffs and immediately made them into a 3 win team. 

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7 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Millen was here longer and has a worst record but he never inherited a player like Stafford.  If he inherited a QB like Stafford those Lions teams wouldn't have looked as bad as they did.  Quinn inherited Stafford and put virtually nothing around him.   If he didn't have Stafford they'd be lucky to win 3 games tops a year during his time which is worse than Millen.  

Millen wasn't good at his job, but at least he some some ideas that you could argue had some rationale behind them and might have worked a little. For instance his idea to overload on receivers so that you would force a team into matching up a #1 quality receiver against a #3 DB at least made a certain amount of sense. It's something that could have worked if he could have executed it by drafting good players instead of deadbeats. When you compare that to a Quinn concept like "let's put together a defense with a bunch of slow  linebackers and it will work because they are going to be really big and may make a tackle if someone runs into them" that doesn't even make sense as a theoretical argument, Millen looks like a football genius by comparison (though still a management incompetent).

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11 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Millen wasn't good at his job, but at least he some some ideas that you could argue had some rationale behind them and might have worked a little. For instance his idea to overload on receivers so that you would force a team into matching up a #1 quality receiver against a #3 DB at least made a certain amount of sense. It's something that could have worked if he could have executed it by drafting good players instead of deadbeats. When you compare that to a Quinn concept like "let's put together a defense with a bunch of slow  linebackers and it will work because they are going to be really big and may make a tackle if someone runs into them" that doesn't even make sense as a theoretical argument, Millen looks like a football genius by comparison (though still a management incompetent).

Good point.  I also don't recall Millen making many early head scratching picks, atleast at the time they were drafted.  I think people questioned the MIke Williams pick seeing that it was the 3rd WR in a row taken but many pundits had him as the #1 overall prospect heading into the draft so you could atleast see the upside there.

I don't recall him making many Teez Tabor like picks early where everybody thought it was a major reach and terrible pick at the time.   The closest I can recall was Cherilus, atleast among the people at the Lions board that I posted at back then.  I recall everybody thinking that was a major reach for a guard.    Of course I don't recall every pick so maybe there were some that fit that description and even if there weren't ultimately all that matters is how the players turn out and not many of his players turned out but atleast he seemed to pick players that the general consensus liked pre draft.  

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7 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Lions reach out to Urban Meyer

Oh **** yes!!!!!!!! It's too bad it's the Lions and not Michigan, but I'd love to have Urban Meyer here. If Meyer agrees to interview with the Lions then Michigan should be making the call to Meyer as well.

I'd like to see what Urban could do in the NFL. I think he would fail, but that's purely speculation. But I think that because unlike a Bill Walsh, who built his success at all levels on the creativity he brought to the game, I think Urban's success has been more predicated on recruiting, and that salesmanship that was the foundation of the talent leviathan he built at OSU doesn't do him any good when he has to procure players from drafts and free agent markets where money talks louder than salesmanship.

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I'm lukewarm to it at best. He's a scumbag of a human being. Which no one cares about when you win, but it makes it all the worse when you don't. Even if he has some success, it's a matter of time before he'd eventually leave us in a dumpster fire while citing a family or health or insert new crisis here that will make him leave on the first limo out of town. Dude cares solely about himself.

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If Urban Meyer comes here and wins, as he's done everywhere he has gone, I'd be ok knowing he's a dirtbag when he's holding up the Lombardi trophy. I'd also be ok if he delivered us a Super Bowl and then quit sometime there after.

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10 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

If Urban Meyer comes here and wins, as he's done everywhere he has gone, I'd be ok knowing he's a dirtbag when he's holding up the Lombardi trophy. I'd also be ok if he delivered us a Super Bowl and then quit sometime there after.

This is why I would probably warm up to him in time. I'm no better than the masses, if he wins I'm okay with him being a terrible egocentric person.

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the other thing with Meyer is that the cyst in his head is not going to go away. If it starts to incapacitate him if he starts to coach again it could be a short ride.

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lions now up to 7th in the draft.

houston would be picking 3rd but bill o'brien is so stupid that miami will be making that pick.

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1 hour ago, Buddha said:

lions now up to 7th in the draft.

houston would be picking 3rd but bill o'brien is so stupid that miami will be making that pick.

I think it's pretty likely Miami trades back, especially if the Jets end up keeping Darnold over selecting Fields.

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Miami is in a position to make the playoffs and pick in the top 5.  Does that make Tua a bad pick?

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On 12/26/2020 at 2:09 PM, RandyMarsh said:

Good point.  I also don't recall Millen making many early head scratching picks, atleast at the time they were drafted.  I think people questioned the MIke Williams pick seeing that it was the 3rd WR in a row taken but many pundits had him as the #1 overall prospect heading into the draft so you could atleast see the upside there.

I don't recall him making many Teez Tabor like picks early where everybody thought it was a major reach and terrible pick at the time.   The closest I can recall was Cherilus, atleast among the people at the Lions board that I posted at back then.  I recall everybody thinking that was a major reach for a guard.    Of course I don't recall every pick so maybe there were some that fit that description and even if there weren't ultimately all that matters is how the players turn out and not many of his players turned out but atleast he seemed to pick players that the general consensus liked pre draft.  

Concussion boy Kevin Jones, trade up for him in round 1

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