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2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Stafford looked like a bust after two seasons. The difference between Stafford and Tua is that Stafford has arm talent. 

yes. He was hurt a lot but honestly I don't remember anyone questioning his talent in those 1st two years, only his fragility. True - a guy who is always hurt is still a bust, but the question was more around QBs who don't look like they have talent becoming more (apparently) talented with time. I could be wrong but I don't remember people being ready to give up on Stafford with regard to him not showing enough talent even if they were down on his inability to stay in the game.

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4 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

yes. He was hurt a lot but honestly I don't remember anyone questioning his talent in those 1st two years, only his fragility. True - a guy who is always hurt is still a bust, but the question was more around QBs who don't look like they have talent becoming more (apparently) talented with time. I could be wrong but I don't remember people being ready to give up on Stafford with regard to him not showing enough talent even if they were down on his inability to stay in the game.

His first year in the league he threw 20 INT in 10 games and had a 53% completion percentage. The arm talent was there but I believe there were questions about his accuracy.

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9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

His first year in the league he threw 20 INT in 10 games and had a 53% completion percentage. The arm talent was there but I believe there were questions about his accuracy.

he also played on one of the worst teams in the league.  and like you said, he suffered two season ending injuries.

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3 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I guess the most severe outlier of a late developing QB I can think of is Jim Plunkett, who was the 1st overall pick after 3 yrs experience at your own alma mater, a top program at the time, but couldn't stop throwing the ball to the wrong team until he landed in Oakland at the age of 30.

I feel attacked ;)

I think there are certainly anecdotes to show that players can recover after being significant failures early on, with the right coaching and atmosphere. I think it's also fair to say that for every one of those anecdotes there are ten first round picks who just bust (early and often). I'm not saying that regarding Tua yet, I think it's too early to say, but I also think a career turn toward Joey Harrington may be slightly more likely than a turn toward Josh Allen or the elite tier of NFL QBs.

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With the Director of College Scouting from the Rams Brad Holmes coming in and the Rams being one of the better drafting teams in the league I have never been more excited for a draft.

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After watching more Parson's on tape, I'd have to pass on him. He's great at blitzing, and making plays, but when he's asked to be a linebacker, he fails miserably. This is probably due to him being young, but he should have stayed in college, and at the very least, needed to play this past year.

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On 1/15/2021 at 7:21 PM, Jason_R said:

Being a Lions fam makes me wish the NFL ran 16 drafts a season and played one game.

There will be 17 drafts next year.

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On 1/15/2021 at 7:21 PM, Jason_R said:

Being a Lions fam makes me wish the NFL ran 16 drafts a season and played one game.

Quinn and Patricia would still be 0-1 and take guys with 5th and 6th round talent grades in the 2nd.

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This is obviously enormous news.  It should benefit teams like the Lions now with an excellent college scouting program in place. 

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9 hours ago, Hongbit said:


This is obviously enormous news.  It should benefit teams like the Lions now with an excellent college scouting program in place. 

This sucks.

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