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To be honest, I liked Mac Jones better than Lance but I don't get why SF would trade that bounty for #3 when they could have waited and probably gotten #7 much cheaper? Regardless of that, SF could have had Stafford cheaper. For a team that fancies itself as a Super Bowl contender, I would take the vet over the rookie. 

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6 minutes ago, sagnam said:

This is good news

Those are betting odds and NOT news.

49'ers will be at Justin Fields second Pro Day (which I think is today...).

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3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

That study is junk. I mean i get why they are doing it, but to frame it as draft success is stupid. It's basically who got lucky in the 7th round and even that is quesitonable at best.

Let's just look at one position and two Teams. WR and the Lions and Texans. 

 

Here is who the Lions have drafted at WR, who has over 1000 receiving yards in the career:

Galladay-round 3 3k yards

Here is who the texans have drafted

Hopkins-round 1 10k yards

Fuller-round 1 3k yards

(Coultree is on the cusp with 950 receiving yards round 4)

 

Now are you really gonna tell me the Lions are top 5 at drafing WR and the Texans are bottom third? Both team have several whiffs on the position as well so its not like Detroit got marginal production. The names inlcude Broyles, Tim Toone, Corey Fuller. Its basically giving the Lions a ton of credit for a third round pick, while being like oh its a first round pick who cares. 

A team shouldn't be punished because it took a good player in round 1 as much as the study did. Sometimes you do the right thing by taking a good player high. Nobody is saying the Cowboys draft QBs better because they got lucky with Dak over a team like Indy who took Luck at #1 overall. Both teams did fine. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Keepleyland2 said:

That study is junk. I mean i get why they are doing it, but to frame it as draft success is stupid. It's basically who got lucky in the 7th round and even that is quesitonable at best.

Let's just look at one position and two Teams. WR and the Lions and Texans. 

 

Here is who the Lions have drafted at WR, who has over 1000 receiving yards in the career:

Galladay-round 3 3k yards

Here is who the texans have drafted

Hopkins-round 1 10k yards

Fuller-round 1 3k yards

(Coultree is on the cusp with 950 receiving yards round 4)

 

Now are you really gonna tell me the Lions are top 5 at drafing WR and the Texans are bottom third? Both team have several whiffs on the position as well so its not like Detroit got marginal production. The names inlcude Broyles, Tim Toone, Corey Fuller. Its basically giving the Lions a ton of credit for a third round pick, while being like oh its a first round pick who cares. 

A team shouldn't be punished because it took a good player in round 1 as much as the study did. Sometimes you do the right thing by taking a good player high. Nobody is saying the Cowboys draft QBs better because they got lucky with Dak over a team like Indy who took Luck at #1 overall. Both teams did fine. 

 

 

The data the have is from too small a sample size to draw any conclusions. Hitting on Golladay and not drafting any other WR's high skewed the results in Quinn's favor. I'm sure if given enough time he would have proven to be just as inept at drafting WR's as he was at other positions.

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On 4/8/2021 at 10:59 AM, Motown Bombers said:

To be honest, I liked Mac Jones better than Lance but I don't get why SF would trade that bounty for #3 when they could have waited and probably gotten #7 much cheaper? Regardless of that, SF could have had Stafford cheaper. For a team that fancies itself as a Super Bowl contender, I would take the vet over the rookie. 

I like Mac Jones alot and I think teams around the league do as well.  He doesn't have the physical tools that some other prospects have and the pundits care about but I think he has the tools that NFL teams like which is why I think he is higher on many team boards than what the "experts" have him at. 

He has prototypical size, great pocket awareness, great decision making,  elite accuracy and has faced elite competition his whole career.

He may not be able to throw the ball 80 yards but he has more than enough arm strength to excel in the NFL.   I think he has a high floor and would be great for a team like the 49ers.  

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I'd drive to Allen Park and buy Brad Holmes a Buddy's pizza with any toppings he wanted if the draft played out like my unrealistic scenario below.

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Twitter is saying the Broncos offer for Stafford was the 9th pick for Staff AND a 2nd round pick. Lol if true I would've hung up the phone and refused to negotiate any further which is what it sounds like the Lions did.

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1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

Twitter is saying the Broncos offer for Stafford was the 9th pick for Staff AND a 2nd round pick. Lol if true I would've hung up the phone and refused to negotiate any further which is what it sounds like the Lions did.

That was pretty bad. They were essentially asking for Matthew Stafford just to move up about 30 spots in the draft. 

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Lot of talk on Twitter that the Bengals are leaning heavily towards Ja'Marr Chase at 5, citing the LSU connection between Burrows and Chase and the Riley Reiff signing of the Bengals.

Looking more and more likely one of Pitts or Sewell would be there at #7, which would be an ideal scenario.

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1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Lot of talk on Twitter that the Bengals are leaning heavily towards Ja'Marr Chase at 5, citing the LSU connection between Burrows and Chase and the Riley Reiff signing of the Bengals.

Looking more and more likely one of Pitts or Sewell would be there at #7, which would be an ideal scenario.

Pitts is going to Atlanta at 4.

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3 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Lot of talk on Twitter that the Bengals are leaning heavily towards Ja'Marr Chase at 5, citing the LSU connection between Burrows and Chase and the Riley Reiff signing of the Bengals.

Looking more and more likely one of Pitts or Sewell would be there at #7, which would be an ideal scenario.

burrow will be flat on his back while chase is running open deep.

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4 minutes ago, Buddha said:

burrow will be flat on his back while chase is running open deep.

He'll be David Carr if no time in Cincinnati doesn't improve that OL. What good are weapons if you are running for your life, have no time in the pocket to let a play develop, and become predictable because you have no running game. The Bengals would be smart to take Sewell or trade back a few spots and still take one of who is available between Sewell/Slater. When you have a franchise asset like Burrow, especially after he just went down with an ACL injury, protecting him is your #1 job. The Bengals passing on Sewell is only to our benefit though if Sewell is high on Brad Holmes draft board.

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9 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

He'll be David Carr if no time in Cincinnati doesn't improve that OL. What good are weapons if you are running for your life, have no time in the pocket to let a play develop, and become predictable because you have no running game. The Bengals would be smart to take Sewell or trade back a few spots and still take one of who is available between Sewell/Slater. When you have a franchise asset like Burrow, especially after he just went down with an ACL injury, protecting him is your #1 job. The Bengals passing on Sewell is only to our benefit though if Sewell is high on Brad Holmes draft board.

I think that Sewell's going to fall in this draft. I think he might fall out of the top 10. Too many QB's.

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2 hours ago, cruzer1 said:

I think that Sewell's going to fall in this draft. I think he might fall out of the top 10. Too many QB's.

Highly doubtful.

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45 minutes ago, 84 Lives!!! said:

Highly doubtful.

I don't think Sewell falls past us if he's there at #7. Holmes and Dorsey seem like the kind of smart people that would take an anchor, potential all pro Tackle and secure the OL for years to come.

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19 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

It's kind of ironic that the two worst 1st round picks that Holmes has been involved with were an OT and WR. 

Yeah, Greg Robinson was a complete bust as a top 10 pick at OT. I don't believe Holmes was the College Scouting Director when they drafted Tavon Austin though.

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30 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I don't think Sewell falls past us if he's there at #7. Holmes and Dorsey seem like the kind of smart people that would take an anchor, potential all pro Tackle and secure the OL for years to come.

There are boards out there where Sewell isn’t the first tackle picked.  As I’ve been saying, the lions would be foolish to go with a tackle.  I’d someone wants him and you can get more assets then trade down or take a weapon.  Don’t waste it on a tackle.   

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31 minutes ago, T&P_Fan said:

There are boards out there where Sewell isn’t the first tackle picked.  As I’ve been saying, the lions would be foolish to go with a tackle.  I’d someone wants him and you can get more assets then trade down or take a weapon.  Don’t waste it on a tackle.   

An OT isn't a sexy pick but it isn't a waste either. I called it a mistake a few pages back given the lack of playmakers on this team, but having rethought it, I think my initial comments were wrong. Yes, we still desperately need playmakers on this team, but taking Sewell isn't a mistake.

Having a dominate offensive line is always an asset as it can make the rest of the offense around you better, improve your running game, give plays time to develop, etc. Sewell isn't my first, second, or third choice, but having your offensive line set for the next 4-5-6 seasons with Sewell, Decker, Ragnow, Crosby, and Jackson is an attractive proposition. This is a deep WR draft and one in which you can grab a weapon like Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, Terrence Marshall, Kadarius Toney, Dyami Brown in the second round.

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Well, it's now getting to the time of year where draft rumors are going to start swirling. I saw this article from The Athletic stating that the Lions are looking at possible trade down scenarios.

My question to you guys is, say that Bill comes calling and says he wants to trade up to 7 for a QB, what offer would you deem acceptable to drop to 15? Of course this depends on who is left on the board. If Chase or Sewell are on the board then that raises the value of the pick so what say you? For me, the MINIMUM compensation would be two 2nds but I'd be pushing hard for an extra 1st.

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