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How many guys my age can remember hearing some of those great songs from the 80's for the first time with those riffs?  It was not for everyone, but I am sure a good portion of kids back then are feeling it a little today.

 

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Just posted the same photo on my instagram. Just awful. I have a client in today that worked with him for 3 years. Pretty broken up about it. 

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He provided some of the sounds that made up my life as a kid transitioning into a man, it is hard not to feel it a little.  He looks a LOT like my brother also.....I think that was another reason why I gravitated towards EVH.  My brother was 10 years older than me and was always the cool guy I looked up to, mix that with the music and the boy becoming a man...

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As a listener he was amazing and from what I have read from other guitarists he was a genius and so innovative. 

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He always had that grin on his face when he played and I hoped he was enjoying himself as much as it looked like he was.   He was the opposite of Van Morrison. 

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Is the fact I liked the keyboard songs more than the guitar based songs reflective of just nostalgia on my part since that was my middle and high school years or because of how good he was to be able to incorporate that into the songs that way?   I mean he was more than just a guitar riff guy wasn’t he?  That stuff was just another thing he did.... 

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2 minutes ago, Oblong said:

Is the fact I liked the keyboard songs more than the guitar based songs reflective of just nostalgia on my part since that was my middle and high school years or because of how good he was to be able to incorporate that into the songs that way?   I mean he was more than just a guitar riff guy wasn’t he?  That stuff was just another thing he did.... 

well, 'Jump' is an all-time one-of classic  - sort of in the class of Boston's 'More than a Feeling". The synth from 'Jump'  would have sealed any keyboard player's fame, even if it was a guitarist.

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1 hour ago, Oblong said:

As a listener he was amazing and from what I have read from other guitarists he was a genius and so innovative. 

The best of the best are the hardest to duplicate. Rick Beato actually just put out of video of what it would sound like if Eddie played on Stairway. He had PhilX try to mimic him. Didn't come close. Lots of big bends and tapping cliches but the structure of the solo was nothing like how Eddie would play. 

I didn't like Eddies random picking clutter but he's probably the closest we've had to Hendrix in terms of just making it look effortless. 

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I follow Beato so am looking forward to seeing that. 

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Eddie was not only a brilliant guitarist and a brilliant musician, he also created a whole generations of shred guitarists. If not for Eddie, would there have been a Randy Rhodes? Often imitated and never duplicated, he was an innovator. The brown sound is his legacy. 
 


 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

He always had that grin on his face when he played and I hoped he was enjoying himself as much as it looked like he was.   He was the opposite of Van Morrison. 

That always stuck out to me, too.

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14 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

He always had that grin on his face when he played and I hoped he was enjoying himself as much as it looked like he was.   He was the opposite of Van Morrison. 

I've read that there were times that he wasn't enjoying playing guitar, to the point that he wanted to play something else - hence his piano/keys/synth work.

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13 hours ago, Yoda said:

The best of the best are the hardest to duplicate. Rick Beato actually just put out of video of what it would sound like if Eddie played on Stairway. He had PhilX try to mimic him. Didn't come close. Lots of big bends and tapping cliches but the structure of the solo was nothing like how Eddie would play. 

I didn't like Eddies random picking clutter but he's probably the closest we've had to Hendrix in terms of just making it look effortless. 

This reminds me of an interview I read from Jerry Garcia....they were asking him about hot new guitarist EVH, and his response was... "That's a lot of notes!" - totally true, it was a lot of notes.   That's really something coming from Garcia who was definitely a very prolific in using a lot of notes!

Do you really think it was random though?   Maybe we're talking about different stuff, but most of the fast stuff sounds to me like he had definitely put in his 100,000 hours on the minor pentatonic.

 

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8 hours ago, Biff Mayhem said:

Eddie was not only a brilliant guitarist and a brilliant musician, he also created a whole generations of shred guitarists. If not for Eddie, would there have been a Randy Rhodes? Often imitated and never duplicated, he was an innovator. The brown sound is his legacy. 

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I can't believe this, but I've really been kinda digging on those Ibanez Gems lately like they have in the background of your video.   I'm totally not a shredder guitar guy either.....

This was a really cool video about how they did that with the amps, but the other thing that really helped define his sound:

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I am glad we got what we did with his music, but it is hard not to be bummed out that there was not more.  The riff with DLR and split with Sammy.

Been listening to a bunch of the in between stuff this morning....VHIII, Balance, Different Kind of Truth.  Those (Minus truth) are albums I did not listen to much.  I have wore out the tapes/cd's of the late 70's through mid 80's stuff, but these CD's.....I did not listen much to, moreso do to focusing on work and career etc during the years they were released...I just kind of lost music.  And to be 100% honest...I am not sure if I have ever listed to III all the way through...I know I never actually purchased it.  It may be the only VH album I did not actually buy.

There are some great tunes that I think are extremely under rated and some that are extremely over rated, but even the over rated ones were good.

 

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1 hour ago, pfife said:

This was a really cool video about how they did that with the amps, but the other thing that really helped define his sound:

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Oh yes. Yes yes yes.

 

 

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2 hours ago, pfife said:

This reminds me of an interview I read from Jerry Garcia....they were asking him about hot new guitarist EVH, and his response was... "That's a lot of notes!" - totally true, it was a lot of notes.   That's really something coming from Garcia who was definitely a very prolific in using a lot of notes!

Do you really think it was random though?   Maybe we're talking about different stuff, but most of the fast stuff sounds to me like he had definitely put in his 100,000 hours on the minor pentatonic.

 

I just meant random in terms of not always being about the melody. He did have some very melodic solos. The tune from the Twister soundtrack is one of my favorite instrumentals ever. But sometimes it was just playing a bunch of notes in key with no discernible melody. Which is fine but it was never my cup of tea. 

 

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yeah I love that one.  I am a big fan of well done instrumentals.  They can shred, but they do not have to shred and some of my favorites in fact do not.

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I think we have discussed this before, but 2015 Rolling Stone did the top 100 guitarists of all time...

Eddie came in at 8th

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That seems a little high but he was probably #2 in terms of being innovative and influential, behind Jimi. I'm sure that was part of their ranking. 

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Here's the top 9 from rolling stone:

1) hendrix

2) Clapton

3) Page

4) Keith Richards

5) Jeff Beck

6) BB King

7) Chuck Berry

8 ) EHV

9) Duane Allman

 

Richards & Berry immediately strike me as too high on the list.

 

 

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I could move EVH up based on Richards and Berry moving down.   I think the rest of them have also earned their spots and should be in the convo.

I'm also surprised to not see Townsend in the top 9.

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1 hour ago, pfife said:

Here's the top 9 from rolling stone:

1) hendrix - yes

2) Clapton - no. Not even top 100 IMO but I've never found his playing engaging at all.

3) Page - brilliant songwriter. Played some great studio solos and a whole lot of slop. I love to listen to his rhythm playing but the live solos are suspect.

4) Keith Richards - distinctive sound and style. Lazy player though. His best years were when he had Mick Taylor taking up his slack and pushing him to be better.

5) Jeff Beck - over rated for sure. He does some nifty things with the whammy bar but for the most part is uninteresting to me.

6) BB King - definitely a stylist and an immediately recognizable player but vibrato on one or two notes doesn't make you a top ten player of all time.

7) Chuck Berry - the inventor of the licks that led to every other guitar lick. Not technically proficient per se, but played with feel, charisma and style

8 ) EHV - #1a

9) Duane Allman - every slide player in the world owes him royalties.

 

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