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4 hours ago, leflore said:

Remember Fulmer was in year-1 post TJ. I'm not confident in his return, but he is young enough where I wouldn't write him off yet either. 

as I've noted before, the problem for Fulmer is that he had suffered a loss of  effectiveness prior to and unrelated to his UCL failure, so for him it's not just a matter of TJ surgery recovery and he is back to good. Even at 100% recovery to where he was pre-surgery, he needed to re-invent his arsenal and do it while protecting the bad knee. Which is not to say he can't do it, only there are a lot of moving pieces - which mean a lot of possible failure points, all of which he needs to succeed on.

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1 hour ago, Gehringer_2 said:

as I've noted before, the problem for Fulmer is that he had suffered a loss of lost effectiveness prior to and unrelated to his UCL failure, so for him it's not just a matter of TJ surgery recovery and he is back to good. Even at 100% recovery to where he was pre-surgery, he needed to re-invent his arsenal and do it while protecting the bad knee. Which is not to say he can't do it, only there are a lot of moving pieces - which mean a lot of possible failure points, all of which he needs to succeed on.

agree--I don't think we should count on much, but I also think he deserves the benefit of the doubt and be given the chance to see what he can do in 2021.

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8 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

Even though it seemed a waste of potential talent, Gardy probably had the right idea with Norris - put him in the BP where he can't think about his starts or at least bring him in as a 'second' starter where the game is already in flow. Norris is also the kind of case where maybe a new coaching regime could click for him.

I think the best case with Fulmer may end up being the BP also. If he gets his velo back - which he may, he's still not a more than once through the order guy as long as it's all sinker-slider because hitters adjust to that too easily on second look - but it can probably work from the BP, especially if you bring him in after a guy that does throw a high riding fastball.

If I were in charge, I’d be fine with them factoring into the bullpen for next season.  I’m not sure I’d consider either a SP going forward.  Not sure what their salaries are going forward, but I think there’s value in having arms in the bullpen that can go multiple innings, especially if the Tigers are going to have growing pains in the rotation in the next couple of years.

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13 hours ago, leflore said:

Remember Fulmer was in year-1 post TJ. I'm not confident in his return, but he is young enough where I wouldn't write him off yet either. 

Fulmer is going into his age-28 season. He’s running out of time.

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4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Fulmer is going into his age-28 season. He’s running out of time.

I do agree. I just ain't writing him off yet. I'm going to write him slightly askew. Perhaps asymptotic. Where's my abacus? Anyone seen my abacus? Crap

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Fulmer gets 2021--if he can't prove that he is capable of being at least a 5th starter, you cut him loose.

btw, you can insert Boyd into the sentence above.

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57 minutes ago, theroundsquare said:

If I'm picking one, its Bauer

same here, but he's not coming.  I'd probably pick Porcello from the remainder, as I think he fits the bill as healthy and capable of giving us 180 innings.  Lots of questions marks with the others, and I don't think we have that luxury given the number of innings we need to fill.  If we had four solid guys who you could expect to pitch a full season's worth, I'd be more inclined to go after someone with upside, like Paxton, but we only have two in that camp (Turnbull and Boyd).

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Porcello maybe, but his last couple seasons have been scary.  For that type of role I might be more inclined for Leake or a Teheran rebound (FA's but not on the list above).  Leake has been consistent with starts and IP with serviceable production.  Teheran was also pretty consistent until this year.  Walker is intriguing due to age and 2020 performance, though expecting a lot of innings is tough.

Cool baseball card displays in the background.

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16 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Thanks...here’s a few more

Very nice, all of them!  Especially like the Billy Martin in action card signed.

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5 hours ago, leflore said:

Is the '57 Bunning an original Topps or reprint? Nice Yount rookie

That one is a reprint.  All autographs are authentic, though—certified by Topps.  

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