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From a couple of comments I’ve seen on a couple of baseball fan sites, December 1st may be the deadline for MLB to assign affiliate locations. The sooner the better. 

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24 minutes ago, Charles Liston said:

Ha ha ha "Do you know who I am?"

Yep. That was his 2007 pitch. He also told the cops then he had one or two glasses of wine as I recall. Tony needs some new lines. 

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2 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Pudge was a dick, and probably juicing, or was eating too many Doritos.  His market was non-existent, unlike what Realmuto should experience.

Doritos make my feet stink.

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13 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

they are like the Fords but with more winning.

They got lucky.

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5 hours ago, Charles Liston said:

Ha ha ha "Do you know who I am?"

You should know me from my avatar.

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11 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I think the idea that most guys are just going to take the best 1 year deal they can and wait for next year is probably right.

Yes, I think we will probably see a higher percentage of one year deals this offseason due to the COVID variable.

I may be wrong on this, but I don't think this is a particularly good free agent class.  So, there might not have been a good amount of the higher dollar deals anyway.

Realmuto is probably one that will still get paid if he wants the multiyear deal.  The Mets have been connected with him, and they're probably going to try and make some moves to make them more relevant in the their division and and their metropolitan area.  So he might be likely priced out of the Tigers shopping cart pretty quickly.

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9 hours ago, 1776 said:

From an article by Mike Oz regarding LaRussa’s latest encounter with the cops:

La Russa stated, “I had one glass of wine while at dinner with my friends.” Before searching his person and placing him in the rear of my patrol vehicle La Russa asked, “Do you see my ring?” I asked La Russa what he was talking about? La Russa stated, “I’m a hall of famer baseball person.” While placing him in the rear of my patrol vehicle, La Russa stated, “I’m legit. I’m a hall of famer brother. Your [sic] trying to embarrass me.” I advised La Russa that I will to embarrass him, and he would be treated with the utmost respect.”

 

Yes, I know who you are.  You're the ******* that laid the groundwork for overly convoluted bullpen usage and jammed a syringe in McGwire's ***.

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11 hours ago, Charles Liston said:

Ha ha ha "Do you know who I am?"

Cabrera used the same strategy.  In his case, he got away with it because the cops were douchebags who bragged about arresting a famous person.  

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not interested in realmuto.  

am interested in ha-seong kim.  24 year old korean shortstop with oodles of potential.

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not interested in realmuto.  Said no one ever.

why not?  Is elite and fills a position of need, and should be productive for awhile.  Hits enough that he could eventually move to DH, if necessary, once Miggy leaves.

it's a pipe dream--he's not coming here because his market will be robust and he'll have better options, but rejecting him is like saying, I'm not interested in dating Kate Upton.

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36 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

not interested in realmuto.  Said no one ever.

why not?  Is elite and fills a position of need, and should be productive for awhile.  Hits enough that he could eventually move to DH, if necessary, once Miggy leaves.

it's a pipe dream--he's not coming here because his market will be robust and he'll have better options, but rejecting him is like saying, I'm not interested in dating Kate Upton.

nyah.  its like saying i'd rather date a hotter, younger supermodel than an aging 40 year old supermodel.

but before this analogy gets taken way too far, back to baseball.  realmuto isnt going to come here except for a long term deal for a lot of money.  he's in his 30s.  the team isnt going to be competitive for at least another year or two and that's if all these guys pan out.  which they wont.

by then realmuto likely will no longer be as productive or be able to catch and we'll be stuck with a bad contract.  i think it would be more productive to take a flyer on the korean shortstop and perhaps some pitching reclamation projects (although robbie ray is now off the market) than spend the kind of money it would take to sign realmuto.

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1 hour ago, Buddha said:

nyah.  its like saying i'd rather date a hotter, younger supermodel than an aging 40 year old supermodel.

but before this analogy gets taken way too far, back to baseball.  realmuto isnt going to come here except for a long term deal for a lot of money.  he's in his 30s.  the team isnt going to be competitive for at least another year or two and that's if all these guys pan out.  which they wont.

by then realmuto likely will no longer be as productive or be able to catch and we'll be stuck with a bad contract.  i think it would be more productive to take a flyer on the korean shortstop and perhaps some pitching reclamation projects (although robbie ray is now off the market) than spend the kind of money it would take to sign realmuto.

I've always argued that the most economically efficient way to improve a team is make marginal improvements in your worst positions. Upgrading your worst position to merely average helps you just as much as replacing a good player with a superstar and costs a fraction as much.

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15 minutes ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I've always argued that the most economically efficient way to improve a team is make marginal improvements in your worst positions. Upgrading your worst position to merely average helps you just as much as replacing a good player with a superstar and costs a fraction as much.

This works if you have the superstars in enough other places. That’s why it’s better to be in a stars and scrubs situation because you can economically upgrade the scrub. If you have a team full of merely average players, it’s hard to get the guy that upgrades from average to “star.”

In the present situation, the tigers are lacking  the stars. They have some guys with potential to be that, but we don’t when/if they will get there. But we also have some positions where we know the star isn’t emerging. I think it’s reasonable to support paying up to fill that spot. The more of those you have, the less you need a particular guy to reach star level. Merely average would be enough. 

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The Mets have informed Binghamton that they will remain an affiliate in 2021. Binghamton was one of the teams on the list of locations being eliminated. I would guess they would remain AA but don’t know that. Maybe Erie will survive. 

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by hiring hinch and letting him work, i think the tigers took the first step toward upgrading their on field performance.

i dont think the tigers need to spend a bunch of money just to spend it.  not this year.  not yet.

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2 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

I've always argued that the most economically efficient way to improve a team is make marginal improvements in your worst positions. Upgrading your worst position to merely average helps you just as much as replacing a good player with a superstar and costs a fraction as much.

This is part of the reason why I'm more optimistic than some that the Tigers can contend by 2022.  Their starting pitching was historically bad  and it just so happens that they have 3 prospects that project to be number 2s or higher(yes I know they sucked too this past year) so if those 3 end up being merely above average that is going to make a huge difference on the team.   

Considering the spots they are going to fill were well below replacement level they could easily add a dozen or more wins just by being above average, if they end up hitting their projections then you're talking 15+ extra wins. 

Combine that with Hinch adding 2-3 wins himself and some other progression from other players and its not hard to see that this team could contend in the near future with another piece or two.

Of course the Debbie Downer side is that Mize and Skubal don't get much better than what they performed this year, guys like Willi and Candy prove to be flukes and we get no improvement from any other young player which in turn puts us back to square one but with all the negativity surrounding Michigan sports the past decade I'd like not to think that way.    

 

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31 minutes ago, Buddha said:

by hiring hinch and letting him work, i think the tigers took the first step toward upgrading their on field performance.

i dont think the tigers need to spend a bunch of money just to spend it.  not this year.  not yet.

I think it’s ok to spend a year early. You just don’t want to spend 2 years too early. So it really depends on whether or not you think 2022 is a year they can contend for a playoff spot (assuming they play baseball in 2022; I think they will, just like they eventually played this summer). 
 

If the playoff field is 7 teams per league or more, 2022 is not unreasonable.

I agree that they should push to sign that 26 year old 2b. I could probably go either way on realmuto, although I see little to no chance he would choose to play for the tigers without a fairly substantial overpay  

 

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I am qualified.  I am sure there are a lot of qualified people for a job like that these days.  Anyway, I am old and already have a good career and wouldn't want to take a massive pay cut.  

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1 hour ago, tiger337 said:

I am qualified.  I am sure there are a lot of qualified people for a job like that these days.  Anyway, I am old and already have a good career and wouldn't want to take a massive pay cut.  

They read your resume.

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5 hours ago, Buddha said:

nyah.  its like saying i'd rather date a hotter, younger supermodel than an aging 40 year old supermodel.

but before this analogy gets taken way too far, back to baseball.  realmuto isnt going to come here except for a long term deal for a lot of money.  he's in his 30s.  the team isnt going to be competitive for at least another year or two and that's if all these guys pan out.  which they wont.

by then realmuto likely will no longer be as productive or be able to catch and we'll be stuck with a bad contract.  i think it would be more productive to take a flyer on the korean shortstop and perhaps some pitching reclamation projects (although robbie ray is now off the market) than spend the kind of money it would take to sign realmuto.

Is Kim the Super Model in this analogy?  You haven't even seen her yet. Those photographs she sent you are probably fake.  

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