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29 minutes ago, Casimir said:

Kind of wonder which is the better preventative maintenance to avoid those dead arms, 6 man rotations or shortened outings?  Sure, it’s case by case, but what about the majority of pitchers, where will they fall?

there doesn't seem to be much sentiment for split starts - 10 starters going in pairs on a 5 day schedule. I guess they figure they don't have the roster space so plan more to burn out one set of pitchers and replace them with another from the minors as needed, but I would think split starts is the better solution for long term health - at least in theory. 

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Padres extend Tatis- 14 years at $340 million. 

Mets interested in Walker. 

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10 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Padres extend Tatis- 14 years at $340 million. 

Mets interested in Walker. 

2 million for each hit he has so far in MLB.

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3 hours ago, 1776 said:

Padres extend Tatis- 14 years at $340 million. 

Mets interested in Walker. 

If you are willing to spend 340 million do you really need to do it so quickly ? I know inflation and age 35 still could be good and it keeps him a Padre but wow....he' what 22 and they gave up some short term savings.

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9 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

there doesn't seem to be much sentiment for split starts - 10 starters going in pairs on a 5 day schedule. I guess they figure they don't have the roster space so plan more to burn out one set of pitchers and replace them with another from the minors as needed, but I would think split starts is the better solution for long term health - at least in theory. 

LaRussa attempted a 3/3/3 arrangement (3 IPs for 3 Ps every 3rd G) midseason with Oakland.  I don't think the experiment lasted very long, maybe only a couple of weeks.  Its intriguing to me.  Keeps Ps from going more than 2 times through a lineup.  But you need to find at least 7-9 guys to go 162 IPs, or somewheres around there, and then there are other arms to fill in gaps as needed (stoppers/closers).

Nobody is designed for it now.  If there were a time to experiment for it, it would have been last season.

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10 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

there doesn't seem to be much sentiment for split starts - 10 starters going in pairs on a 5 day schedule. I guess they figure they don't have the roster space so plan more to burn out one set of pitchers and replace them with another from the minors as needed, but I would think split starts is the better solution for long term health - at least in theory. 

I would like a team go with maybe three full-time starters and then have the last two spots be split starts (3/3/3).  I don't think there are enough good pitchers where you want everyone to be a once through the order pitcher.  You're going to eventually run of pitchers who will be better once through the order than your best starters will be twice through the order. 

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1 hour ago, tiger337 said:

I would like a team go with maybe three full-time starters and then have the last two spots be split starts (3/3/3).  I don't think there are enough good pitchers where you want everyone to be a once through the order pitcher.  You're going to eventually run of pitchers who will be better once through the order than your best starters will be twice through the order. 

Astros tried it in the minor leagues. Many think that is one of the reasons Appel and some other pitchers of theirs failed

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Detroit Tigers (No. 3 system)

1. Spencer Torkelson, 1B, 60 FV (4)
2. Casey Mize, RHP, 60 FV (20)
3. Matt Manning, RHP, 60 FV (24)
4. Riley Greene, RF, 55 FV (25)
5. Tarik Skubal, LHP, 50 FV (53)
6. Isaac Paredes, 3B, 50 FV (103)
7. Wenceel Perez, SS, 45 FV
8. Cristian Santana, SS, 45 FV
9. Dillon Dingler, C, 45 FV
10. Parker Meadows, CF, 45 FV

Santana was one of the top five prospects signed in this international period. He doesn't fit into the broad categories of big-bonus 16-year-old infielders who often are either "big tools, contact problems" or "limited tools, great hitter." Santana is more power-over-hit in his style, but has enough feel to hit and pitch selection to where his contact ability isn't a concern. He has now power in a strong frame and is just okay at shortstop, so scouts I spoke with saw something like a 5 hit (.260ish), 6 power (20-25 homers) third baseman.

ESPN on the Tigers prospects

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18 minutes ago, Keepleyland2 said:

Astros tried it in the minor leagues. Many think that is one of the reasons Appel and some other pitchers of theirs failed

I don't believe the Astros tried three traditional starters and split the last two spots. This doesn't seem like such a  radical concept.   The good pitchers are still pitching on four days rest and getting the same workload.  The idea is to try to get more out of the previously back of rotation guys.   

  

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1 hour ago, tiger337 said:

I don't believe the Astros tried three traditional starters and split the last two spots. This doesn't seem like such a  radical concept.   The good pitchers are still pitching on four days rest and getting the same workload.  The idea is to try to get more out of the previously back of rotation guys.   

  

sure not that specific method. But they did the split starts in the minors with two starters doing 3 innings every five days. It was a disaster.

I think its one of those things that sounds good on paper, but in real life with actual humans doesn't work

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1 hour ago, Keepleyland2 said:

sure not that specific method. But they did the split starts in the minors with two starters doing 3 innings every five days. It was a disaster.

I think its one of those things that sounds good on paper, but in real life with actual humans doesn't work

Someone probably said the same thing about relief pitcher specialization a few decades ago.  Now, actual humans have special bullpen roles.  

Why do you think my suggestion can't work?  It's not anything like what the Astros tried.  

 

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MLB has released the minor league schedules...finally!

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47 minutes ago, 1776 said:

MLB has released the minor league schedules...finally!

I am excited because we get the Whitecaps here in Fort Wayne for the whole opening week! Sadly its their only trip here this year.

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So this is probably a really dumb question, but I have not kept up.  Are they planning on opening the season with fans in the seats or do they not have a plan yet?

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14 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

So this is probably a really dumb question, but I have not kept up.  Are they planning on opening the season with fans in the seats or do they not have a plan yet?

I heard on the radio yesterday that the plan as of now is to have fans, they didn't mention anything about how many they are allowing or when tickets will become available though. 

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1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I am excited because we get the Whitecaps here in Fort Wayne for the whole opening week! Sadly its their only trip here this year.

That’s a pretty sweet deal with Tork starting there.

 

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Wily Peralta on a minors deal for $1.5m base w$300k/incentives.  Presume the incentives are winning cy young, MVP and World Series MVP.

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Just now, ROMAD1 said:

Wily Peralta on a minors deal for $1.5m base w$300k/incentives.  Presume the incentives are winning cy young, MVP and World Series MVP.

I think they are for making it out of Spring Training.  He hasn’t pitched since 2019.

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1 minute ago, Tenacious D said:

I think they are for making it out of Spring Training.  He hasn’t pitched since 2019.

I was hoping he was dreaming bigger than that.

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11 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

Presume the incentives are winning cy young, MVP and World Series MVP.

What if he wins all three?  

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25 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:

Wily Peralta on a minors deal for $1.5m base w$300k/incentives.  Presume the incentives are winning cy young, MVP and World Series MVP.

We kid about finding warm bodies for spring training and Al says “hold my beer”.

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