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2 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

"Marxism"...like Socialism or Capitalism...are terms that have evolved over the years to include concepts that may or may not be viewed as foundational concepts.  Suffice to say...Cullors is an a vowed Marxist and the group has set a series of policy goals that are counter to traditional "American" values.

What specific policy goals of BLM do you feel run counter to traditional American values? Or are an existential danger to Western Society?

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12 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

They have as a goal the disruption of Western society and the end to the nuclear family...

Remember when avowed Marxist Angela Davis disrupted Western society and ended the nuclear family?

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11 minutes ago, ROMAD1 said:
 
 
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Riots in downtown Richmond, Virginia over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials.
 
 
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1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

 

What specific policy goals of BLM do you feel run counter to traditional American values? Or are an existential danger to Western Society?

Most specifically...the disruption of the western nuclear family.  

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Just now, chasfh said:

Remember when avowed Marxist Angela Davis disrupted Western society and ended the nuclear family?

So you're saying only worry about disruptors when they win...wouldn't it be too late then?

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8 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

No...I don't care enough about "proving it" to you

You care just enough to troll about it.

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2 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

Most specifically...the disruption of the western nuclear family.  

yeah but you said they wanted to end the nuclear fam, not disrupt it.     So plainly you lied about what they support.

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Just now, Lei Pong said:

Most specifically...the disruption of the western nuclear family.  

From the website:

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We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement 

Given the added context, I do not interpret this the same way you do. 

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1 minute ago, Lei Pong said:

Most specifically...the disruption of the western nuclear family.  

You probably come from a good nuclear family.  If you didn't come from a good family, you might want to try a different kind of family.  America gives you the freedom to do that.  

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7 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

So you're saying only worry about disruptors when they win...wouldn't it be too late then?

I'm saying if a famous Marxist with an actual following like Angela Davis couldn't successfully disrupt Western society and end the nuclear family, what chance does the woman you mentioned whose name I've already forgotten have?

Marxism is such a provably failed ideology that even nominally Marxist countries like China and Vietnam don't bother even trying to pretend to practice it anymore.

"Marxism" is nothing but a buzzword designed to agitate you by tickling your nostalgia bone. You're being played.

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2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

From the website:

Given the added context, I do not interpret this the same way you do. 

Put another way, "Disruption of western-prescribed nuclear family" =/= "Disruption of western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement"

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4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

From the website:

Given the added context, I do not interpret this the same way you do. 

Potato potahto...

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Just now, Lei Pong said:

Potato potahto...

so if you don't require something, you're destroying it?   

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26 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

Who said you were a bigot for standing during the national anthem?  I stand during the national anthem too. Most people do.  I am not going to lose my **** because someone kneels during the national anthem to protest police brutality.  When you stand for the national anthem you are supposed to also be looking at the flag.  If you do this properly, you won't see the person who is kneeling.  If you see the person kneeling, then you are doing it wrong.  

No one specifically in my made up scenario.  I am not sure if I have really heard people saying that I guess I am assuming people would be questioning that person...especially considering all the rest of the team is kneeling.  I am looking at the Tiger photo, seeing everyone kneeling and know that I would not be kneeling in that photo and wondering what would come of that.

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19 minutes ago, pfife said:

oh ok - even if that's true which it's not -  did Marx argue for the disruption of Western society and the end to the nuclear family?  Feel free to site the works & paganation.

 

If the US Constitution can be viewed as a "living document" so can the works of Marx

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1 minute ago, pfife said:

so if you don't require something, you're destroying it?   

Nowhere have I used the word "destroy"...move your own goalposts

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Just now, John_Brian_K said:

No one specifically in my made up scenario.  I am not sure if I have really heard people saying that I guess I am assuming people would be questioning that person...especially considering all the rest of the team is kneeling.  I am looking at the Tiger photo, seeing everyone kneeling and know that I would not be kneeling in that photo and wondering what would come of that.

smdh a lot of sort fiction being written up in here today by folks who coincidentally aren't interested in posting links too weird coincidence

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at the BLM protest i attended i noted none of these bizonk notions.  

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22 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

They have as a goal the disruption of Western society and the end to the nuclear family...

Oh yeah you said "end", not destroy.    You should just quit while you're losing

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4 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

Potato potahto...

Not at all.

The former interpretation is literally the advocacy for the destruction of the western nuclear family, which I'm guessing is about as popular as enemas or cockroaches amongst the GP. The added words, on the other hand, I interpret to be breaking down the stigma that is applied to those who do not come from a western nuclear family household, whether through choice or by circumstances. Lee's comment kinda sums it up: 

8 minutes ago, tiger337 said:

You probably come from a good nuclear family.  If you didn't come from a good family, you might want to try a different kind of family.  America gives you the freedom to do that.  

 

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I have also seen those pics of some players standing while others are kneeling and the standing player with a hand on the shoulder or something...I do think that is probably how I would do it also.

I guess my comment was more because I saw someone say something about how proud they were of the Tigers for ALL kneeling...I am assuming that person would have been less proud maybe if a couple guys were standing and how that would be kind of crappy.

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3 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

No one specifically in my made up scenario.

Of course not, because this is what a classically-trained troll would do: make up a scenario, claim to be a real-world victim because of it, then sit back and watch all the attention roll in.

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2 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Not at all.

The former interpretation is literally the advocacy for the destruction of the western nuclear family, which I'm guessing is a position of a fringe minority of Americans. The added words, on the other hand, I interpret to be breaking down the stigma that is applied to those who do not come from a western nuclear family household, whether through choice or by circumstances. Lee's comment kinda sums it up: 

 

Again...I have cited the term disruption of the nuclear family.  A foundational aspect of our American culture.  Take that and run woith it in whatever direction you choose...but you're the one running

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