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It seems to me the only people not allowing expressions by others are those who are trying to stop those from kneeling.  I've yet to see anyone say that kneeling is required but let's fight that strawman b/c someone just thought it up

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28 minutes ago, John_Brian_K said:

Unpopular opinion coming (surprise coming from me)..

I do not like seeing people kneeling during the anthem...I am pretty sure I can understand and empathize the plight of the modern black man/woman/child and also not like people kneeling during the anthem.

And I hate the fact that I would be labeled a bigot for standing during the anthem even though everyone else was kneeling if I were a professional athlete.  

I never would have thought I was in the minority on this issue....maybe I am not with the entire population, but I am obviously in the minority on social media and message boards like this one.

Who said you were a bigot for standing during the national anthem?  I stand during the national anthem too. Most people do.  I am not going to lose my **** because someone kneels during the national anthem to protest police brutality.  When you stand for the national anthem you are supposed to also be looking at the flag.  If you do this properly, you won't see the person who is kneeling.  If you see the person kneeling, then you are doing it wrong.  

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I liked the photo I saw of the guy standing next to two guys kneeling but he had his arms on their shoulders in a show of support... that's how I would do it.  I think a protest like that means more if not everyone is doing it.  Kind of like a ribbon.  The message is more stark.  Not sure I can explain it well...

I'm in a running group and within that group are some black guys.  They belong to a group called Black Men Run.   They've been featured locally in media.  They do that as a message to other black men that it's "ok" to be a runner.  In some circles it's thought of was something "white people do".   They are highlighting the health aspects of it as they are more susceptible to certain medical issues that running/walking can assist with.  I went downtown to run one evening and saw them on the Dequinder Cut.  The ones who knew me asked if I wanted to run with them and I didn't feel right because I want to make sure the message is heard properly.  

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13 hours ago, ROMAD1 said:

Seriously...what is that all about?

Co founder Patrisse Cullors is an admitted Marxist...the group has an announced goal of disrupting Western society and attacking the "nuclear family" structure...I can't abide by that sort of talk

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4 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

Co founder Patrisse Cullors is an admitted Marxist...

yeah but what about BLM is Marxist?

Henry Ford was a Nazi but that doesn't make Ford Motor Company nazi and never did.  BLM argues specific tactics for specific goals - what of that is Marxist?

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3 minutes ago, Lei Pong said:

Co founder Patrisse Cullors is an admitted Marxist...the group has an announced goal of disrupting Western society and attacking the "nuclear family" structure...I can't abide by that sort of talk

link?

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1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

FWIW I thought Drew Brees caught a lot of unnecessary flak for his stance on kneeling. 

Similarly....I read an article online that said Bret Favre had tarnished his legacy by being photographed playing golf with Trump.  

I can't wrap my head around such nonsense and hysterics

 

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1 minute ago, pfife said:

yeah but what about BLM is Marxist?

Henry Ford was a Nazi but that doesn't make Ford Motor Company nazi and never did

Exactly.

People didn't stop buying Volkswagens after the war. Possibly because it's founding has little bearing on the car itself.

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2 minutes ago, pfife said:

yeah but what about BLM is Marxist?

Henry Ford was a Nazi but that doesn't make Ford Motor Company nazi and never did

They have as a goal the disruption of Western society and the end to the nuclear family...

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Just now, pfife said:

ah more of this, "you back up my statement"

yawn

No...I'm not here to do anyone's research.  Don't believe me...go look for yourself

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9 minutes ago, Oblong said:

I liked the photo I saw of the guy standing next to two guys kneeling but he had his arms on their shoulders in a show of support... that's how I would do it.  I think a protest like that means more if not everyone is doing it.  Kind of like a ribbon.  The message is more stark.  Not sure I can explain it well...

I'm in a running group and within that group are some black guys.  They belong to a group called Black Men Run.   They've been featured locally in media.  They do that as a message to other black men that it's "ok" to be a runner.  In some circles it's thought of was something "white people do".   They are highlighting the health aspects of it as they are more susceptible to certain medical issues that running/walking can assist with.  I went downtown to run one evening and saw them on the Dequinder Cut.  The ones who knew me asked if I wanted to run with them and I didn't feel right because I want to make sure the message is heard properly.  

I have not seen a lot African American runners through the years.  I have seen more African runners than African Americans.  I think maybe it's because so many of them live in the city and it's less fun to run in the city than in a more rural area.  Of course, there's the old joke about what happens when a Black man runs down the street which is kind of what these protests are all about. 

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1 minute ago, Lei Pong said:

They have as a goal the disruption of Western society and the end to the nuclear family...

oh ok - even if that's true which it's not -  did Marx argue for the disruption of Western society and the end to the nuclear family?  Feel free to site the works & paganation.

 

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1 minute ago, Lei Pong said:

No...I'm not here to do anyone's research.  Don't believe me...go look for yourself

We're not here to do your research either.   It's way easier for me to not believe you and also not look for myself b/c if you don't care enough about your argument to support it, I'm certainly not going to care more about your argument than you do.  

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1 minute ago, pfife said:

oh ok - even if that's true which it's not -  did Marx argue for the disruption of Western society and the end to the nuclear family?  Feel free to site the works & paganation.

 

he refused 

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"Marxism"...like Socialism or Capitalism...are terms that have evolved over the years to include concepts that may or may not be viewed as foundational concepts.  Suffice to say...Cullors is an a vowed Marxist and the group has set a series of policy goals that are counter to traditional "American" values.

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2 minutes ago, pfife said:

We're not here to do your research either.   It's way easier for me to not believe you and also not look for myself b/c if you don't care enough about your argument to support it, I'm certainly not going to care more about your argument than you do.  

No...I don't care enough about "proving it" to you

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Just now, Lei Pong said:

"Marxism"...like Socialism or Capitalism...are terms that have evolved over the years to include concepts that may or may not be viewed as foundational concepts.  Suffice to say...Cullors is an a vowed Marxist and the group has set a series of policy goals that are counter to traditional "American" values.

Cool story, but Marx wrote what Marx wrote.     You can either point to where he says what you attributed to him, or you can't.   It's looking like you can't.

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1 minute ago, Lei Pong said:

No...I don't care enough about "proving it" to you

OK cool that works - I don't believe you. 

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 We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

 

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

Not exactly the destruction of Western society. 

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1 minute ago, pfife said:

Cool story, but Marx wrote what Marx wrote.     You can either point to where he says what you attributed to him, or you can't.   It's looking like you can't.

how dare you hold this poster to objective truth

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the Republican Party was started on abolitionist grounds but has Tom Cotton as a Senator.  

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