08-01-12--DETROIT VS BOSTON--7:10 PM

**IdahoBert** · 08-01-2012, 12:12 AM

1963 Topps card of Rocky Colavito after a bit too much coffee

From Boston, MA

It's the Detroit Tigers
vs
the Boston Red Sox

August 1, 2012 7:10 PM

**jackson_cannery** · 08-01-2012, 12:15 AM

Some Tiger will hit a go-ahead 3 run home run in the 9th inning of this game, and the umps will call the game before it leaves the park.

**thefunk** · 08-01-2012, 05:00 AM

shortly before spitting on Leyland as they walk down the umpires tunnel.

**Juck Verllo** · 08-01-2012, 12:45 PM

After last night’s BS I really hope the boys come out and just pummel these turds. And by pummel I’m talking double digit to zero rout by the 3rd inning. We deserve a laugher and an *** whipping of epic proportions by the hands of our beloved tigers. It would ease the pain of this dud of a roady at the very least.

**John_Brian_K** · 08-01-2012, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Juck Verllo

After last night’s BS I really hope the boys come out and just pummel these turds. And by pummel I’m talking double digit to zero rout by the 3rd inning. We deserve a laugher and an *** whipping of epic proportions by the hands of our beloved tigers. It would ease the pain of this dud of a roady at the very least.

I agree with this.....whoopings do wonders for the fans.

**will the thrill** · 08-01-2012, 12:59 PM

so why is it they don't pick up that game where they left off today?

**Just Some Dude** · 08-01-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by will the thrill

so why is it they don't pick up that game where they left off today?

Because in the eyes of MLB the game is complete. It went 5 full innings and a team was leading. The fact that we had the bases loaded with a chance to take the lead means nothing.

**Just Some Dude** · 08-01-2012, 03:20 PM

Here is Verlander's take..

"I don't think they could've waited any longer," Verlander said. "It was getting pretty bad out there. Obviously I would've liked to seen them give it one more at-bat. Who knows what happens? Infante hits a grand slam and we'd be walking out of here winners right now. But you can't fault those guys. I think they waited as long as they possibly could."

If Infante hit a GS there and we took the lead and the game was called.. Boston would of won. The home team would of had to receive their 3 outs in the bottom of the 6th for any of the stats to have mattered past the 5th inning.

**John_Brian_K** · 08-01-2012, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Just Some Dude

Here is Verlander's take..

"I don't think they could've waited any longer," Verlander said. "It was getting pretty bad out there. Obviously I would've liked to seen them give it one more at-bat. Who knows what happens? Infante hits a grand slam and we'd be walking out of here winners right now. But you can't fault those guys. I think they waited as long as they possibly could."

If Infante hit a GS there and we took the lead and the game was called.. Boston would of won. The home team would of had to receive their 3 outs in the bottom of the 6th for any of the stats to have mattered past the 5th inning.

Would have...

And what are you saying? Infante hits a GS and Boston somehow still wins? How is that possible?

**tigermojo** · 08-01-2012, 03:36 PM

Detroit Tigers ‏@tigers
Tonight's lineup: Jackson 8, Berry 7, Cabrera 5, Fielder 3, Boesch 9, Young dh, Avila 2, Peralta 6, Santiago 4. Porcello is starting.

Young is not in the 5th spot! *head explodes*

**tiger337** · 08-01-2012, 03:39 PM

If Infante had hit a grand slam and the game was then called, it would have been suspended:

4.12
SUSPENDED GAMES.
(a) A game shall become a suspended game that must be completed at a future date if the game is terminated for any of the following reasons:
(1) A curfew imposed by law;
(2) A time limit permissible under league rules;
(3) Light failure or malfunction of a mechanical field device under control of the home club. (Mechanical field device shall include automatic tarpaulin or water removal equipment);
(4) Darkness, when a law prevents the lights from being turned on;
(5) Weather, if a regulation game is called while an inning is in progress and before the inning is completed, and the visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not retaken the lead; or
(6) It is a regulation game that is called with the score tied. National Association Leagues may also adopt the following rules for suspended games. (If adopted by a National Association League, Rule 4.10(e) would not apply to their games.):
(7) The game has not become a regulation game (41/2 innings with the home team ahead, or 5 innings with the visiting club ahead or tied).
(8) If a game is suspended before it becomes a regulation game, and is continued prior to another regularly scheduled game, the regularly scheduled game with be limited to seven innings.
(9) If a game is suspended after it is a regulation game, and is continued prior to another regularly scheduled game, the regularly scheduled game will be a nine inning game.
EXCEPTION: Optional Rules 4.12(a)(7), 4.12(a)(8) and 4.12(a)(9) for National Association Leagues will not apply to the last scheduled game between the two teams during the championship season or league playoffs.
No game called because of a curfew (Rule 4.12(a)(1)), weather (Rule 4.12(a)(5)), a time limit (Rule 4.12(a)(2)) or with a tied score (Rule 4.12(a)(6)) shall be a suspended game unless it has progressed far enough to have been a regulation game pursuant to Rule 4.10(c). A game called pursuant to Rules 4.12(a)(3) or 4.12(a)(4) shall be a suspended game at any time after it starts.
NOTE: Weather and similar conditions—Rules 4.12(a)(1) through 4.12(a)(5)—shall take precedence in determining whether a called game shall be a suspended game. If a game is halted by weather, and subsequent light failure or an intervening curfew or time limit prevents its resumption, the game shall not be a suspended game. If a game is halted by light failure, and weather or field conditions prevent its resumption, the game shall not be a suspended game. A game can only be considered a suspended game if stopped for any of the six reasons specified in Rule 4.12(a).
(b) A suspended game shall be resumed and completed as follows:
(1) Immediately preceding the next scheduled single game between the two clubs on the same grounds; or
(2) Immediately preceding the next scheduled doubleheader between the two clubs on the same grounds, if no single game remains on the schedule; or
(3) If suspended on the last scheduled date between the two clubs in that city, transferred and played on the grounds of the opposing club, if possible;
(i) Immediately preceding the next scheduled single game, or
(ii) Immediately preceding the next scheduled doubleheader, if no single game remains on the schedule.
(4) Any suspended game not completed prior to the last scheduled game between the two teams during the championship season shall become a called game. If such game becomes a called game and
(i) has progressed far enough to become a regulation game, and one team is ahead, the team that is ahead shall be declared the winner;
(ii) has progressed far enough to become a regulation game, and the score is tied, the game shall be declared a “tie game.” A tie game is to be replayed in its entirety, unless the league president determines that playing the rescheduled game is not necessary to affect the league championship; or
(iii)has not progressed far enough to become a regulation game, the game shall be declared “No Game.” In such case, the game is to be replayed in its entirety, unless the league president determines that playing the rescheduled game is not necessary to affect the league championship.
(c) A suspended game shall be resumed at the exact point of suspension of the original game. The completion of a suspended game is a continuation of the original game. The lineup and batting order of both teams shall be exactly the same as the lineup and batting order at the moment of suspension, subject to the rules governing substitution. Any player may be replaced by a player who had not been in the game prior to the suspension. No player removed before the suspension may be returned to the lineup.
A player who was not with the club when the game was suspended may be used as a substitute, even if he has taken the place of a player no longer with the club who would not have been eligible because he had been removed from the lineup before the game was suspended.
Rule 4.12(c) Comment: If immediately prior to the call of a suspended game, a substitute pitcher has been announced but has not retired the side or pitched until the batter becomes a baserunner, such pitcher, when the suspended game is later resumed may, but is not required to start the resumed portion of the game. However, if he does not start he will be considered as having been substituted for and may not be used in that game.
(d) Rain checks will not be honored for any regulation or suspended game that has progressed to or beyond a point of play described in Rule 4.10(c).

Official Rules | MLB.com: Official info

**Dunkin Darvin** · 08-01-2012, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by tigermojo

Detroit Tigers ‏@tigers
Tonight's lineup: Jackson 8, Berry 7, Cabrera 5, Fielder 3, Boesch 9, Young dh, Avila 2, Peralta 6, Santiago 4. Porcello is starting.

Young is not in the 5th spot! *head explodes*

Does it really matter if you flip-flop he and Boesch though? Maybe if they had moved Young to 8th and had Peralta or Avila hitting 5th it be noteworthy...otherwise I think it's basically the same thing.

**tater6** · 08-01-2012, 04:02 PM

from the Det News...

Young is hitting .174 (7-of-23) in his last seven games with an on-base percentage of .321. Boesch is batting .125 during the same span with an OBP of .160.

From The Detroit News: Wednesday's Tigers lineup: Brennan Boesch moved to Delmon Young's fifth spot | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Yet Boesch gets moved up in the lineup. Good job Leyland.

**tigerbomb13** · 08-01-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dunkin Darvin

Does it really matter if you flip-flop he and Boesch though? Maybe if they had moved Young to 8th and had Peralta or Avila hitting 5th it be noteworthy...otherwise I think it's basically the same thing.

Yeah, this is basically flip-flopping turd for turd. Blah.

**IdahoBert** · 08-01-2012, 04:02 PM

Not as many kudos for the poster of the concrete slab as there were for the one with the Fox Sports girls. Go figure.

**MDMAzing** · 08-01-2012, 04:06 PM

Big game since the sox won today. They know how to get clutch hits, something the Tigers are unfamiliar with.

Since cook is pitching and he is terrible(only 4ks in over 40innings pitched) i fully expect him to go 7in 2er 7ks.

**tigermojo** · 08-01-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dunkin Darvin

Does it really matter if you flip-flop he and Boesch though? Maybe if they had moved Young to 8th and had Peralta or Avila hitting 5th it be noteworthy...otherwise I think it's basically the same thing.

I thought it was funny that Leyland changed his lineup since he's been so grumpy about the subject all season. I thought it was funnier that when he did change it, his big move was to swap Boesch and Young, which is no change at all. Now he has Fielder and Boesch back to back so why not bring in a lefty to face them? Leyland you joker you...

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 08-01-2012, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Just Some Dude

Here is Verlander's take..

"I don't think they could've waited any longer," Verlander said. "It was getting pretty bad out there. Obviously I would've liked to seen them give it one more at-bat. Who knows what happens? Infante hits a grand slam and we'd be walking out of here winners right now. But you can't fault those guys. I think they waited as long as they possibly could."

If Infante hit a GS there and we took the lead and the game was called.. Boston would of won. The home team would of had to receive their 3 outs in the bottom of the 6th for any of the stats to have mattered past the 5th inning.

What would have happened is the game would be picked up later at the point in the game when it was suspended.

So in the hypothetical, Detroit would be up 5-4 in the top of the 6th when the game was resumed.

**Just Some Dude** · 08-01-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

What would have happened is the game would be picked up later at the point in the game when it was suspended.

So in the hypothetical, Detroit would be up 5-4 in the top of the 6th when the game was resumed.

A game is official after 5 innings. The only way they would of picked the game up where it left off is if the game was tied at the end of the 5th inning.

**Lousluggage** · 08-01-2012, 04:28 PM

Yeah, this road trip is one that I want over. NOW. It's probably good that I've been konking out at around 8 pm lately. :(

Somebody wake me up when it's over, ok?

On a side note... I'm about a 15 minute T ride from Fenway, and it has been raining off and on since about 3, including right now.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 08-01-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by MDMAzing

Big game since the sox won today. They know how to get clutch hits, something the Tigers are unfamiliar with.

2012 RISP batting

White Sox: 0.295/0.360/0.469
Tigers: 0.290/0.372/0.441

2012 Late & Close batting

White Sox: 0.217/0.302/0.316
Tigers: 0.258/0.315/0.396

2012 Tie Game batting:

White Sox: 0.255/0.317/0.412
Tigers: 0.279/0.338/0.418

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 08-01-2012, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Just Some Dude

A game is official after 5 innings. The only way they would of picked the game up where it left off is if the game was tied at the end of the 5th inning.

Incorrect. If a team takes the lead or ties the score during an inning, that supercedes the end of the previous inning result. The home team has to get the chance to bat in the same inning, though, so the game isn't complete, and must be picked up later.

Similarly, if the Tigers were winning at the end of 5, but Boston took the lead in the bottom of the sixth but with play suspended before the Sox finished batting in the sixth, Boston would win, not the Tigers. Once Boston takes the lead, the previous inning result is nullified.

**Just Some Dude** · 08-01-2012, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Incorrect. Once the Tigers take the lead or tie in the top of an inning, that result supercedes the end of the previous inning result.

That would be true if they suspended play, but in this case they called the game done. Least that's how I've always thought it works.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 08-01-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Just Some Dude

That would be true if they suspended play, but in this case they called the game done. Least that's how I've always thought it works.

They can't call the game done if Detroit takes the lead in the 6th without Boston getting their three outs in the 6th.

They also can't call the game done if the game is tied at the time of the rain delay.

In either case, the game is picked up later and played to completion, starting at the spot in the game where play was suspended.

**Just Some Dude** · 08-01-2012, 04:51 PM

I hate reading baseball rules.. but yes if the Tigers would of tied or taken the lead the game would of had to be suspended but since the game was official it would've resumed where it left off at. In our case the Tigers didn't do enough to get to that point so we lose.

**roarintiger1** · 08-01-2012, 04:56 PM

It doesn't really matter anyways....Infante was not gonna hit a grand slam......or even get a hit for that matter....The black hole at secondbase continues..........

**John_Brian_K** · 08-01-2012, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Just Some Dude

I hate reading baseball rules.. but yes if the Tigers would of tied or taken the lead the game would of had to be suspended but since the game was official it would've resumed where it left off at. In our case the Tigers didn't do enough to get to that point so we lose.

Would have

**tigerbomb13** · 08-01-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by MDMAzing

Big game since the sox won today. They know how to get clutch hits, something the Tigers are unfamiliar with.

Since cook is pitching and he is terrible(only 4ks in over 40innings pitched) i fully expect him to go 7in 2er 7ks.

Wow. I thought the 4/40 was a typo, but that's true! Cook is literally K-ing 0.9/9 innings. That's sort of unbelievable and makes Nate Cornejo look like Randy Johnson.

His BABIP is .232.

**pyrotigers** · 08-01-2012, 05:06 PM

Cook vs Porcello is the kind of match up dreams are made of, I'm so excited for this game.

I'm predicting a combined between the two teams over/under on strikeouts of 7.5, only going that high due to relievers possibly striking a bunch of guys out.

**tiger337** · 08-01-2012, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by pyrotigers

Cook vs Porcello is the kind of match up dreams are made of, I'm so excited for this game.

.

Strikeouts and walks are boring. The most exciting things in baseball happen when the ball is in play.

**MDMAzing** · 08-01-2012, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

2012 RISP batting

White Sox: 0.295/0.360/0.469
Tigers: 0.290/0.372/0.441

2012 Late & Close batting

White Sox: 0.217/0.302/0.316
Tigers: 0.258/0.315/0.396

2012 Tie Game batting:

White Sox: 0.255/0.317/0.412
Tigers: 0.279/0.338/0.418

w/bases loaded....13th in ABs. 27th in runs. 25th AVG. 27th OBP. 29th SLG. 29th OPS.

**Just Some Dude** · 08-01-2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by John_Brian_K

Would have

Thanks, not sure why I said "would of" twice and then used would've for the last time. I'll blame it on temporary brain damage after reading baseball rules.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 08-01-2012, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by MDMAzing

w/bases loaded....13th in ABs. 27th in runs. 25th AVG. 27th OBP. 29th SLG. 29th OPS.

Clutch hitting only means hittig with the bases loaded. Got it.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 08-01-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Just Some Dude

I hate reading baseball rules.. but yes if the Tigers would of tied or taken the lead the game would of had to be suspended but since the game was official it would've resumed where it left off at. In our case the Tigers didn't do enough to get to that point so we lose.

Correct.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 08-01-2012, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by roarintiger1

It doesn't really matter anyways....Infante was not gonna hit a grand slam......or even get a hit for that matter....The black hole at secondbase continues..........

A double would have sufficed...

**Sports_Freak** · 08-01-2012, 06:39 PM

Last game of this horrid road trip. One more long trip for the season, September 7th thru the 16th. 3 in L.A., 4 in Chicago and 3 in Cleveland. It sure seems like we had a lot of long trips this season. And we're still only 2 or 4 games under .500 on the road, depending on what happens tonight.

**ToledoTigerFan** · 08-01-2012, 07:00 PM

A win, please? I'm begging. Seriously, I'm begging. I ask so little out of life. I'm not asking to win the ****ing Mega Millions. I'm asking for the Detroit Tigers to win a game in August. And they do. Final score tonight.......

Tigers 5
Red Sox 4

**ToledoTigerFan** · 08-01-2012, 07:02 PM

PLAY BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Juck Verllo** · 08-01-2012, 07:18 PM

Boesch will have a good night. Usually how that works, when people complain about a certian move like this. That said it does seem like a non move to me also.