07-17-12--DETROIT VS LA ANGELS--7:05PM

**sagnam** · 07-17-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by motown blues

Anybody think the tigers are capable of pulling off a laugher like tonight. I think 12 runs in one game by the tigers is nearly impossible. Just to many holes, and too much inconsistency

Good post. Missed you in the game thread yesterday.

**NeedMoreLike84** · 07-17-2012, 10:10 PM

This happens.

**Charles Liston** · 07-17-2012, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by IdahoBert

What a beat down. There are times when I just post the next game thread as a way of dealing with it, but I guess I'll wait.

This is very deflating. We found out earlier in the year that it is very, very difficult to win a major league baseball game if Casey Crosby is your starting pitcher, and I think that we can reach the same conclusion about Jacob Turner at least for this year. In his defense you could say that if the other team throws a three-hit shutout it doesn't really matter whether he gives up one run or seven, but a contending team can't afford to have him in the rotation. He might get one more start but if it turns out like this one I hope that we won't be seeing him for a while, and he probably would hope so too.

**TigersSlappy** · 07-17-2012, 10:14 PM

Big 2 out rally brewing.....;-)

**ToledoTigerFan** · 07-17-2012, 10:16 PM

If Reighbyrne can't hit a 12-run homer, what good is he?

**oldglory1999** · 07-17-2012, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by NeedMoreLike84

This happens.

I've heard that a lot this year...not early in the season anymore

**oldglory1999** · 07-17-2012, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shelton

This was only turner's second game of the season. You have to think he had a bit of rust.

I'm really not trying to sound negative...but honestly, rust?! He's not a major league pitcher...he's a minor leaguer in a major league uniform. Maybe i'm one of few...but turner is not that good, trade him-hype is a ***** sometimes...just my opinion

**MIguy** · 07-17-2012, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by drownwithyou

@freepsports: This is Jacob Turner's fourth start in the majors. Justin Verlander's fifth career start, in 2006: 2.2 IP, 7 ER.

Since people seem to be ignoring this post.

**ToledoTigerFan** · 07-17-2012, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by oldglory1999

I've heard that a lot this year...not early in the season anymore

No, it's not, but they weren't going to run the table. They're going to lose some games. It's still only one loss.

**pyrotigers** · 07-17-2012, 10:38 PM

Well, this game sucked, but when you start a guy who has bad strikeout and walk rates in AAA you have to expect the occasional disaster

**IdahoBert** · 07-17-2012, 10:47 PM

**IdahoBert** · 07-17-2012, 11:07 PM

Report: Bomb threat made Tuesday night during Detroit Tigers-Los Angeles Angels game | MLive.com

**pyrotigers** · 07-17-2012, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by IdahoBert

Report: Bomb threat made Tuesday night during Detroit Tigers-Los Angeles Angels game | MLive.com

The 'threat' was actually just talking about Turner's start, but people got confused

**tiger337** · 07-17-2012, 11:32 PM

yes, the Angels did hit a lot of bombs tonight.

**Gehringer_2** · 07-18-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by MIguy

Since people seem to be ignoring this post.

But also by his 4th start, JV had thrown a 7 inning 2 hit shutout. But more to the point, from the start, even in outings when the results weren't great JV was still showing that his stuff could dominate MLB hitters - that is what Turner hasn't demonstrated in any particularly dramatic way, and I would guess that is why the parallel isn't drawing much affirmation.

**RJBBREZ** · 07-18-2012, 12:21 AM

Had a feeling this could happen tonight so im not too bummed out. Turner isn't ready for the big leagues yet, but I won't overreact on here about him like others have. Blowouts happen, sucks, but they happen.

Fister tomorrow night? Hopefully he gets them back on track.

**Antrat** · 07-18-2012, 06:56 AM

It's funny how the offense will often shut down when a team is put in a big hole early in a game. Even the all-star game was an example of this.

**T&P_Fan** · 07-18-2012, 08:35 AM

I am sick of Turner. He just doesn't appear to have good stuff. I don't know, but I just am not buying into the hype.

We need infield and we need another starting pitcher, turner would be a great piece to move to acquire such assets. I just can't get excited when Turner starts.

**Shelton** · 07-18-2012, 08:43 AM

Have you watched more than his four MLB starts?

**T&P_Fan** · 07-18-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Shelton

Have you watched more than his four MLB starts?

I have seen him in person once, in a minor league game. So 5 games. Never anything to write home about.

Do you believe he will be a top of the rotation guy and trading him would be a mistake?

**Shelton** · 07-18-2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by T&P_Fan

I have seen him in person once, in a minor league game. So 5 games. Never anything to write home about.

Do you believe he will be a top of the rotation guy and trading him would be a mistake?

Yes, I believe that he will be a top of the rotation guy.

I wouldn't trade him for a rental like dempster because I think the value to be gained from such a move would be negligible. I would be happy to include him in the right deal, but I don't think there is any urgency or anything where we need to trade him before the hype wears off or anything. A few poor starts in the majors doesn't change that.

**T&P_Fan** · 07-18-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Shelton

Yes, I believe that he will be a top of the rotation guy.

I wouldn't trade him for a rental like dempster because I think the value to be gained from such a move would be negligible. I would be happy to include him in the right deal, but I don't think there is any urgency or anything where we need to trade him before the hype wears off or anything. A few poor starts in the majors doesn't change that.

I am agreeable with your position. I don't think his trade value will be too diminished this season.

**tiger337** · 07-18-2012, 11:18 AM

Turner is still a good prospect, but I am rarely confident any prospect will be a top of the rotation guy. Verlander was an exception because his ability was so obvious. Plus, his minor league performance was spectacular. I wouldn't trade Turner for a rental, but I would have moved him to get Gonzalez or Garza last winter (depending on who else was involved).