07-15-12--DETROIT VS BALTIMORE--1:35 PM

**JayVee** · 07-15-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by IdahoBert

Some of us know better than you that he is not a real ace. We have higher standards than you do, Antrat. This is all just smoke and mirrors and luck because the deck is stacked against us and we have to fire everyone because we know more than you or anyone else does. We even hacked into IdahoBert's account so we could post this because we know so much. By the way, he's not wearing pants.

Who wears pants while watching baseball?

**jackson_cannery** · 07-15-2012, 06:34 PM

Keep winning 8 of every 9 and the White Sox will finish about 20 games behind us.

**T&P_Fan** · 07-15-2012, 08:55 PM

Verlander being Verlander. This is what we have come to expect. Good day of baseball, if the tigers continue to play like this there will be no reason to worry about the sox. The first 12 games of the season and the past 8 are the best they have played this year.

Although, Don Kelly has no business on a baseball diamond.

**Lousluggage** · 07-15-2012, 09:01 PM

Looks like I missed a great game... was out in Springfield with family. It's a nice thing to come home to, though. :)

**jonjd** · 07-15-2012, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Lousluggage

Looks like I missed a great game... was out in Springfield with family. It's a nice thing to come home to, though. :)

Same with me. In the air in transit. Happy to see a big zero on the visitors half of the scoreboard.

**Antrat** · 07-15-2012, 09:18 PM

Wow. What are the odds that both of you were in Springfield?

**Scottwood** · 07-15-2012, 09:42 PM

.5 game back of Baltimore for the last wild card spot.

**Hart** · 07-15-2012, 10:03 PM

Time for Cabrera to start getting some MVP love again. His numbers are slowly climbing after a slow start. I think Trout and Hamilton are media favorites right now but Cabrera is hot and at some point, people are going to have to take notice.

If Trout keeps the pace he is at, he is going to win the MVP. I think he has a lot of sentimental value (20 year old rookie in a big market) going for him right now. And the numbers he is putting up warrant the consideration.

**tigers84roar06** · 07-15-2012, 10:29 PM

Verlander being Verlander :-). Tigers have won 10 of their last 14.

**Gehringer_2** · 07-15-2012, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by tigers84roar06

Verlander being Verlander :-). Tigers have won 10 of their last 14.

I'm just glad the ASG really was just a throw-away for him and his post game explanations were not just cover. OTOH, I guess the AL players on the team that goes to the WS could reasonably have a complaint about his attitude toward the game, especially if it could be construed that it cost them HFA in the Series - but then again, having been SO, the rest of the Al can't blame JV all that much.

**sagnam** · 07-15-2012, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Hart

Time for Cabrera to start getting some MVP love again. His numbers are slowly climbing after a slow start. I think Trout and Hamilton are media favorites right now but Cabrera is hot and at some point, people are going to have to take notice.

If Trout keeps the pace he is at, he is going to win the MVP. I think he has a lot of sentimental value (20 year old rookie in a big market) going for him right now. And the numbers he is putting up warrant the consideration.

Time for Verlander to get some MVP love too.

**Yoda** · 07-15-2012, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by T&P_Fan

Although, Don Kelly has no business on a baseball diamond.

That's why they play him in the outfield. :)

**Yoda** · 07-15-2012, 11:24 PM

Who was the last rookie to with ROY and MVP?

Furthermore, who was the last 20 yr old to win it?? Has there ever been one?

**ROMAD1** · 07-15-2012, 11:32 PM

It would be hilarious if Oakland, Anaheim and Texas all got in the playoffs this fall.

From a who'd a thunk it perspective.

**Corky** · 07-15-2012, 11:39 PM

Fred Lynn?

**Eric Cioe** · 07-16-2012, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Gehringer_2

I'm just glad the ASG really was just a throw-away for him and his post game explanations were not just cover. OTOH, I guess the AL players on the team that goes to the WS could reasonably have a complaint about his attitude toward the game, especially if it could be construed that it cost them HFA in the Series - but then again, having been SO, the rest of the Al can't blame JV all that much.

Well they got shutout, and you can't win when that happens. Didn't matter if he gave up 1 or 5.

**tiger337** · 07-16-2012, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by sagnam

Time for Verlander to get some MVP love too.

Austin Jackson too.

**tiger337** · 07-16-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Yoda

Who was the last rookie to with ROY and MVP?

Furthermore, who was the last 20 yr old to win it?? Has there ever been one?

Freddie Lynn won ROY and MVP in 1975 but he was 23. Dwight Gooden won ROY at 19 and Cy Young at age 20.

**Yoda** · 07-16-2012, 01:04 AM

Right now I'd say the NL is in a 3-way race, with Votto, McCutchen and Wright, with the leader being McCutchen. In the AL I think it's a race between Trout and Hamilton, with Cano and Cabrera a ways back. Ortiz could make a little noise too if Boston were to make a strung push.

**pyrotigers** · 07-16-2012, 01:08 AM

Mike Trout is the best because he has a nickname that was made up on an internet forum, put into Wikipedia with empty sources, used by news organizations referencing those sources, had the sources changed to reference the articles that originally referenced them, and is now in general use including being on his B-R page.

So therefore, he should win the MVP over anyone.

**MDMAzing** · 07-16-2012, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Yoda

Who was the last rookie to with ROY and MVP?

ichiro

**sabretooth** · 07-16-2012, 02:32 PM

My sons and I were at the game...loved Camden Yards, 1st visit...sat 5 rows behind home plate...watching Verlander was great from there...Cabrera's shot was epic. It was unbelievably hot, most of our area was empty while people sought shade..but we toughed it out.

I love Cabrera's personality, he's always joking around and having fun...he was gently making fun of Ayala being fat...really seems like a good guy....his dive at 3rd (failed) was a nice effort but a pretty lolarious fail..he even made fun of himself looking for a hole in his glove afterwards.

The Tiger fans were out in force again, we're 2-0 on our Tiger road trip, the other vicotry at the great Wrigley takeover (also with Verlander) on June 14.

I really liked our defensive lineup...good fundamentals generally.

**tiger337** · 07-16-2012, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by pyrotigers

Mike Trout is the best because he has a nickname that was made up on an internet forum, put into Wikipedia with empty sources, used by news organizations referencing those sources, had the sources changed to reference the articles that originally referenced them, and is now in general use including being on his B-R page.

So therefore, he should win the MVP over anyone.

I'm not a fan of nicknames. I mean why does someone named Mike Trout even need a nickname? Still, Millville Meteor is a lot better than most of the modern nicknames. It's more creative than Trouty or MTro.

**1776** · 07-16-2012, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by sabretooth

My sons and I were at the game...loved Camden Yards, 1st visit...sat 5 rows behind home plate...watching Verlander was great from there...Cabrera's shot was epic. It was unbelievably hot, most of our area was empty while people sought shade..but we toughed it out.

The Tiger fans were out in force again, ...

We were there Saturday and Sunday. We sat in section 24 which would have been to your right, directly above the O's dugout. You're so right about the Tiger fans being out in force. I've attended a number of Tiger road games over the years and this is one of the biggest turnouts I've seen in an opponents park. Several O's fans were asking themselves out loud where all the Detroit fans came from.

**waffel** · 07-16-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by tiger337

I'm not a fan of nicknames. I mean why does someone named Mike Trout even need a nickname? Still, Millville Meteor is a lot better than most of the modern nicknames. It's more creative than Trouty or MTro.

Trout and Trumbo together are TnT.