06-09-12--DETROIT VS CINCINNATI--4:10 PM

**Eric Cioe** · 06-09-2012, 05:14 PM

Gameday has pitches 2 and 3 right down the ****?

**sabretooth** · 06-09-2012, 05:15 PM

Two damn pitches out of those four were RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE according to GameDay. Is JV getting squeezed on off-speed pitches?

**DWPerkins** · 06-09-2012, 05:15 PM

I absolutely HATE listening to the White Sox announcers, but the Reds announcers may actually be worse.

Miguel Cabrera does things like Joey Votto and Justin Verlander is every bit as good as Aroldis Champman... It's amazing what these guys are saying...

**BoomGaspar** · 06-09-2012, 05:15 PM

Is it just me, or has this umpire's strike zone been miniscule the whole game?

**Eric Cioe** · 06-09-2012, 05:15 PM

****ing ******* Delmon Young.

**sabretooth** · 06-09-2012, 05:16 PM

That is totally on Jim Leyland for playing Mr Crap Sandwich in LF (not to mention a joke of a walk against Ludwick).

**sabretooth** · 06-09-2012, 05:17 PM

Now all of a sudden the ump is calling strikes again on off-speed pitches....

**Eric Cioe** · 06-09-2012, 05:17 PM

I just can't stand that this inning is because Delmon Young can't catch a routine fly.

**MSUBrian11** · 06-09-2012, 05:19 PM

Delmon Young made that look like a little league play.

**Antrat** · 06-09-2012, 05:20 PM

I don't know who I want fired more, the official scorer or Delmon.

**MSUBrian11** · 06-09-2012, 05:21 PM

80 pitches already? He won't make it through 6.

**sabretooth** · 06-09-2012, 05:21 PM

This kind of at-bat kills me. Ryan %#@$% Hanigan fouling off pitches and extending JV into the 80-pitch count area. Get this chump out, please.

**sabretooth** · 06-09-2012, 05:23 PM

Leyland, Delmon, Hanigan, home plate ump = up yours, idiots.

**Eric Cioe** · 06-09-2012, 05:23 PM

How do you rule that **** a double? It was a ****ing can of corn flyball. Those runs should be unearned.

**** Delmon Young. I can't recall actively wishing ill will on a baseball player but there is nothing to like about him. He's a fat drunk racist who sucks at baseball.

**Gehringer_2** · 06-09-2012, 05:24 PM

I've got to say, half a century of watching this game - I don't think I've ever seen a team worse at playing the game. Beyond disgusting.

**PuNk42AE** · 06-09-2012, 05:24 PM

Right now the Tigers have 9,376 more fans Per Game compared to last season through 29 home games. That is 2nd only to Miami who is at 11,246 and the Nationals are 3rd with 7,302. They are 9th overall in total fans per game.

**Antrat** · 06-09-2012, 05:24 PM

If Votto gets a hit later in this game I bet the scorer all of a sudden reverses his ruling.

**Eric Cioe** · 06-09-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by MSUBrian11

80 pitches already? He won't make it through 6.

You say this every start and it has never been true. It's not his fault his manager puts an outfielder in the lineup that can't catch a mother****ing routine fly.

**HighHeat** · 06-09-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Antrat

I don't know who I want fired more, the official scorer or Delmon.

Can the MLB overturn that? JV doesn't deserve those "earned runs."

**Gehringer_2** · 06-09-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Eric Cioe

How do you rule that **** a double? It was a ****ing can of corn flyball. Those runs should be unearned.

**** Delmon Young. I can't recall actively wishing ill will on a baseball player but there is nothing to like about him. He's a fat drunk racist who sucks at baseball.

Same way you give the guy a triple last night when Young couldn't pick up the ball. MLB scoring has become a total joke - the fix is clearly in to pad offensive stats.

**sabretooth** · 06-09-2012, 05:27 PM

Alright! Nice to see Laird and Worth get some hits....

**MSUBrian11** · 06-09-2012, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Gehringer_2

Same way you give the guy a triple last night when Young couldn't pick up the ball. MLB scoring has become a total joke - the fix is clearly in to pad offensive stats.

They always seem to rule in favor of the home team. If this game were in Detroit, it be an error.

**Motor City Sonics** · 06-09-2012, 05:27 PM

Why is Dusty Baker so maligned? He took the Giants to the World Series. Got the Cubs a game away from the World Series and guided the Reds to their first playoff appearance in 15 years. What's so bad about him? (guess some folks could say the same about Leyland).

**thefunk** · 06-09-2012, 05:28 PM

Laird base hit! Positivism!

**kdog** · 06-09-2012, 05:28 PM

The organization values the RBI. That is why they like delmon. Can't get any dumber than that.

**thefunk** · 06-09-2012, 05:29 PM

Worth! Base hit! More positivism!

**Motor City Sonics** · 06-09-2012, 05:29 PM

Nice job by JV.

**Gehringer_2** · 06-09-2012, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Motor City Sonics

Why is Dusty Baker so maligned? He took the Giants to the World Series. Got the Cubs a game away from the World Series and guided the Reds to their first playoff appearance in 15 years. What's so bad about him? (guess some folks could say the same about Leyland).

I can't recite the details, but didn't Dusty get a rep for burning up his pitchers?

**thefunk** · 06-09-2012, 05:30 PM

OH man. If JV would have busted his butt down to 1st, he might have had a bunt base hit.

**PuNk42AE** · 06-09-2012, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Gehringer_2

I can't recite the details, but didn't Dusty get a rep for burning up his pitchers?

A lot of people blamed him for Wood and Prior hitting the DL multiple times.

**thefunk** · 06-09-2012, 05:31 PM

stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid national league.

eff you.

**HighHeat** · 06-09-2012, 05:31 PM

Would've liked to see some more patience by Ajax there.

**Gehringer_2** · 06-09-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Eric Cioe

How do you rule that **** a double? It was a ****ing can of corn flyball. Those runs should be unearned.

**** Delmon Young. I can't recall actively wishing ill will on a baseball player but there is nothing to like about him. He's a fat drunk racist who sucks at baseball.

By the time an outfielder reaches the majors, you would think they would have learned how to shift their line to the ball to keep the sun out of their eyes (Jackson is textbook at this) - he certainly had enough time. He is just a hack.

**tiger337** · 06-09-2012, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Gehringer_2

I've got to say, half a century of watching this game - I don't think I've ever seen a team worse at playing the game.

That's no exaggeration. I'm more alarmed by their poor play than their offensive under performance.

**PuNk42AE** · 06-09-2012, 05:37 PM

We all know it's because of JV, but just saw a stat on the Nationals broadcast. Team Fastball Velocity: Nationals 93.2, Tigers 92.5, Royals 92.5, Red Sox 92.5, Rays 92.4, I wonder what it would be after today with all those 100+ that JV threw in the 4th.