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    Quote Originally Posted by spikesglaring View Post
    When is Leyland going to erupt on this ump!?!
    One bad call on the bases and JL will blow up. No sense in arguing strikes and balls, but JL will give the home plate ump some words if there is a blown call in the field.

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    I think Raburn was 5 for his last 10 coming into this game. With a LHP going I thought he was primed for today. Guess not.
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    Current record vs division

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    that list of pitchers they just put up wasn't too encouraging.
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    OK - so watching Laird again.The deal is he always comes up quick with the ball and is ready to toss...usually well before the pitcher is ready - so he ends up waiting for him. That's all that is going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spikesglaring View Post
    Poor comparison. Pittaro did not have the talent coming into the majors to be solid or above-average; Smyly has the stuff to be a number two or three starter.

    Raburn*
    Ok, next time I'll make a better comparison. Sorry about that. My point is that it takes time to know whether talent is going to turn into results.

    In contrast, you have two pitchers in Porcello and Scherzer who were being counted on to take the next step this year. Both have failed miserably at that so far. I suppose under my Smyly logic, I should allow them some time, but their cases are not the same as Drew- both are established major league pitchers who are expected to take the next step now. Those are two key guys for this team- I dont' think we spent what we spent on Fielder to watch this go on for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersSlappy View Post
    that list of pitchers they just put up wasn't too encouraging.
    Already forgot the others but Worthington wasn't bad - though he played on some bad SF teams.

    EDIT: Luke is going to give up runs here
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    C'mon Luke, shoot the mitt bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob2009 View Post
    Ok, next time I'll make a better comparison. Sorry about that. My point is that it takes time to know whether talent is going to turn into results.

    In contrast, you have two pitchers in Porcello and Scherzer who were being counted on to take the next step this year. Both have failed miserably at that so far. I suppose under my Smyly logic, I should allow them some time, but their cases are not the same as Drew- both are established major league pitchers who are expected to take the next step now. Those are two key guys for this team- I dont' think we spent what we spent on Fielder to watch this go on for long.
    The Tigers do not have any other options in the organization that are better than Scherzer & Porcello. Even if they continue to struggle, you're stuck with them until at least June or July. With that said, I think both of them will be fine. The lack of production from 2B, LF, & DH have been bigger problems.

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    Must be something wrong with our player development system, that we bring up so many pitchers who can't throw strikes reliably. The main exception: Smyly.

    (And Below, I guess).
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    Hindsight or not, Leyland should have pulled Luke BEFORE this inning started.

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    Laird needs to block the plate better

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    Laird did a terrible job of blocking the plate.

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    He would have been called safe regardless.

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    That was clearly safe.
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    Should be enough to lose the series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robgrave View Post
    Must be something wrong with our player development system, that we bring up so many pitchers who can't throw strikes reliably. The main exception: Smyly.

    (And Below, I guess).
    I think it's the drafting/players targeted in trades. DD loves hard-throwing pitchers who have no control - Schlereth, German, Oliver, Perry, Miller, etc. Smyly wasn't a typical Tiger draft pick - in that he doesn't throw that hard but has good control of all of his pitches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigersrok View Post
    I think it's the drafting/players targeted in trades. DD loves hard-throwing pitchers who have no control - Schlereth, German, Oliver, Perry, Miller, etc. Smyly wasn't a typical Tiger draft pick - in that he doesn't throw that hard but has good control of all of his pitches.
    This is true but I don't mind this strategy for starters because the guys who throw hard are generally the ones at the top end of the rotations.

    DD has made a lot of inexcusable mistakes though drafting relievers. He should probably stop drafting relievers altogether and just go and sign them from other teams.

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    I blame DD and JL for a lot of things and thats just one
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    David Chadd also landed Smyly and Dirks in recent draft and they're on the big boys team, so our drafting isnt all bad.
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    Well maybe no Rivera now? Ha
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    Where is Nate Robertson when you need him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerForever View Post
    I blame DD and JL for a lot of things and thats just one
    I blame them for getting us to within two wins of the world series last year.

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    How is this Yankee team barely above .500?

    I mean with this umpiring crew doing their bidding and all.

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    I'm glad we're not swept.
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    thats enough

    I'm headed for the exit
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROMAD1 View Post
    How is this Yankee team barely above .500?

    I mean with this umpiring crew doing their bidding and all.
    We are making a lot of teams look great right now. We're not far off, but right now we are a very average ball team.
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    Time to spank the Royals. Hope we can get healthy against them.

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    There's still hope. Let's trade Valverde to the Yankees before this inning is over and hope they use him in the 9th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTy View Post
    Time to spank the Royals. Hope we can get healthy against them.
    They are playing good ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalTigers View Post
    We are making a lot of teams look great right now. We're not far off, but right now we are a very average ball team.
    as our record suggests.

    I think we will be much better as soon as we get Fister back.

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    Send Shitzer to Toledo when Fister comes back

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalTigers View Post
    We are making a lot of teams look great right now. We're not far off, but right now we are a very average ball team.
    Tigers just aren't getting the breaks. Bad calls by blue. Hard hit balls right at guys. Other team is getting the bloops and infield hits. It evens out over 162 games. And it will. Just not our time yet. Lot of baseball left. Thankfully, our division sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalTigers View Post
    We are making a lot of teams look great right now. We're not far off, but right now we are a very average ball team.
    Hitting and pitching in the clutch -- we had a fair amount of it last year, not so much so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hart View Post
    This is true but I don't mind this strategy for starters because the guys who throw hard are generally the ones at the top end of the rotations.

    DD has made a lot of inexcusable mistakes though drafting relievers. He should probably stop drafting relievers altogether and just go and sign them from other teams.
    I wonder if one of the 12 MLB ready relievers in the minors will be able to step in for Valverde next year

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    I'll never understand letting Granderson go for salary dump and spend 200 bills on Fielder. Odd
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTy View Post
    Tigers just aren't getting the breaks. Bad calls by blue. Hard hit balls right at guys. Other team is getting the bloops and infield hits. It evens out over 162 games. And it will. Just not our time yet. Lot of baseball left. Thankfully, our division sucks.
    I don't buy into that.
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    Also, Eldred will be back in minors where he belongs when Young returns. Not worth.
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    Eldred. Hope the kid can get comfortable and contribute. MLB pitching is just a tad different than AAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalTigers View Post
    I'll never understand letting Granderson go for salary dump and spend 200 bills on Fielder. Odd
    Granderson probably would have never put up these numbers as long as Lloyd McClendon was his hitting coach. Kevin Long resurrected his career. It also helps that he plays half of his games the best hitters park in MLB.

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