10-08-11--DETROIT VS TEXAS--8:05 PM (ALCS Game 1)

**StaffGod** · 10-07-2011, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by VegasTiger

Well stated and I hope you lose. No offense. :)

none taken.

Originally Posted by John_Brian_K

Hello Ranger fan! Nice intro post. No hostility, no angar....I like it. Heres to hoping we all see another great series.

I'm sure we will. Reason I was on motown sports to begin with is because, as indicated by my username, I am a Stafford superfan. So it was a short trek over from the Lions forum. lol

**Shelton** · 10-07-2011, 01:52 PM

With the lefty on the mound, I expect raburn at second and maggs in right. But that is only if delmon is ok. If delmon is out, then raburn in left and Santiago at second. Inge should be the starting third baseman.

**mmwatkin** · 10-07-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Shelton

With the lefty on the mound, I expect raburn at second and maggs in right. But that is only if delmon is ok. If delmon is out, then raburn in left and Santiago at second. Inge should be the starting third baseman.

And you have to bat Raburn third. He would be taking Young's spot in the field.

**byco42** · 10-07-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Shelton

With the lefty on the mound, I expect raburn at second and maggs in right. But that is only if delmon is ok. If delmon is out, then raburn in left and Santiago at second. Inge should be the starting third baseman.

I like the idea of Raburn in the 4-spot with Ramon in reserve.

**thefunk** · 10-07-2011, 02:47 PM

Still can't believe this game thread exists.

Seriously can't get my head around that win last night. Feels like a dream.

**Cecil** · 10-07-2011, 03:10 PM

Is Ogando in the Rangers rotation? He's the one pitcher who scares me.

**John_Brian_K** · 10-07-2011, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Cecil

Is Ogando in the Rangers rotation? He's the one pitcher who scares me.

From what I am hearing he is in the pen for some reason. That may change considering his dominance over us the past few games. If I were the Ranger skip I def give him AT LEAST one start against us to see what happens.

**EppOnite** · 10-07-2011, 03:14 PM

4:00 starts Game 4 and 5

**TigersFan81371** · 10-07-2011, 03:25 PM

Looking forward to more Tigers baseball!

Between being in Chicago for a wedding last weekend, a bunch of hours at a recently acquired job, rehearsals for a play I'm in, and having the laptop's hard drive replaced, haven't had much time to post or read anyone else's thoughts. All these post-season threads will make for fun reading in the off-season, though!

**Tramlou** · 10-07-2011, 03:37 PM

Ogando will remain in bullpen (as of Oct 5):

Link

Ogando had a good track record against the Tigers this season, going 3-0 with a 1.29 ERA in three starts. But, in the postseason, the Rangers view him as a better bullpen weapon.

He allowed no runs on one hit over 2 2/3 innings of relief against the Rays, making all three of his appearances in games the Rangers won.

"We're committed to Ogando in the bullpen," Washington said. "He gives us too much right now in the scenario that we're in."

Daniels agreed, saying Ogando might have a bigger effect out of the bullpen against the Tigers than he would in the rotation.

By staying in the bullpen, he has a chance to affect more games throughout the series.

**John_Brian_K** · 10-07-2011, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Tramlou

Ogando will remain in bullpen (as of Oct 5):

Link

YES!

**63 Tiger** · 10-07-2011, 04:00 PM

Tigers in 5 - Split in TX & sweep at home - JV MVP - Valverde gets it right this time - Not going back to TX

**Jeff6851** · 10-07-2011, 05:05 PM

Ogando not starting gives me a lot more confidence

**sabretooth** · 10-07-2011, 05:10 PM

Based on four day's rest, the rotation would be:

Game 1 (Sat): Verlander
Game 2 (Sun): Porcello
Game 3 (Tue): Fister (or Scherzer)
Game 4 (Wed): Scherzer (or Fister)
<Repeat starting in Game 5>

**Antrat** · 10-07-2011, 05:20 PM

Loss.

For the Rangers!!!

DIAF!!!!

**Antrat** · 10-07-2011, 05:21 PM

I wish Ogando was starting 4 games so they could beat him 4 times!
No stopping the train of terror know as the Detroit Tigers!!!!!

**Charles Liston** · 10-07-2011, 06:03 PM

I think that Washington might be right about Ogando. I remember the way that we felt about Zumaya...Ogando gives them a similar kind of presence.

**Cecil** · 10-07-2011, 06:04 PM

The Rangers rotation is Wilson-Holland-Lewis-Harrison. That doesn't exactly scare me.

**MotorCityKitty** · 10-07-2011, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Cecil

The Rangers rotation is Wilson-Holland-Lewis-Harrison. That doesn't exactly scare me.

Doesn't scare me either. I think Wilson is their best, and we have three things going for us, 1. He is sharing the mound with JV 2. In 7 games against Detroit career he has a 5.56 ERA. 3. He gave up 6 ER to Tampa Bay.

**DubTownTigersFan** · 10-07-2011, 06:40 PM

I think the Tigers will win in five or six. Our offense is very good again lefties, which is supposed to be the strength of the Rangers starting pitching.

**StaffGod** · 10-07-2011, 06:46 PM

In the last couple months, Ogando was showing a lot of fatigue, because he went WAY over his previous innings total. He was skipped for at least one start in September, and the plan the entire time was to get him back in the BP when the playoffs started. That's where he was last season, and he was excellent. Starting was a new thing for him, and it worked out rather well. But I don't think it would be wise to put him back in the rotation considering how subpar he looked the last 6-8 weeks. Those previous results vs the Tigers would mean nothing. All those were before he started his downward trend.

Alexi Ogando Game By Game Stats and Performance - Texas Rangers - ESPN

You can see by going to that link how ineffective Ogando was, conveniently in the starts following the Aug 4 game vs Detroit.

**Vonlenska** · 10-07-2011, 06:59 PM

Oh cool, Leyland fixed the rotation.

**Lousluggage** · 10-07-2011, 07:05 PM

For some reason I'm seeing a 7 game series.... and I'm thinking that might not be a bad thing. The irrational fan in me is remembering how long the Tigers had to wait between the ALCS and the WS in '06 and how that turned out... even though I know in my head that's not sound thinking.

**TigerFan1984** · 10-07-2011, 07:08 PM

I think Cabrera is going to have a big series. Even the best players have bad 5 game stretches. In the playoffs they stand out more.
I don't think you can keep Cabrera down for another 7 games.

**Cecil** · 10-07-2011, 07:45 PM

If the Tigers and Brewers happen to meet in the World Series, I know I'm going to grow to hate Nyger Morgan.

**Antrat** · 10-07-2011, 08:40 PM

Hell of a game five going on in Milwaukee and I already hate Morgan.

**Antrat** · 10-07-2011, 08:45 PM

Ugh. Carlos Gomez. I forgot how much I hate him.

**Cecil** · 10-07-2011, 08:49 PM

After the way Nyger Morgan was talking **** about Pujols and how Milwaukee was going to the playoffs, it would be funny to see St Louis advance and Milwaukee lose.

**cbraendle** · 10-07-2011, 08:54 PM

My lineup guess for tomorrow, assuming DY can't go:

1. Jackson CF
2. Raburn LF
3. Maggs RF
4. Cabrera 1B
5. Martinez DH
6. Peralta SS
7. Avila C
8. Inge 3B
9. Santiago 2B

**pyrotigers** · 10-07-2011, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Cecil

After the way Nyger Morgan was talking **** about Pujols and how Milwaukee was going to the playoffs, it would be funny to see St Louis advance and Milwaukee lose.

I'm hoping they meet in the LCS, that would be pretty entertaining, and it would knock the Phillies out of the playoffs. A win/win

**lordstanley** · 10-07-2011, 09:06 PM

I'm torn about Phils-Cards. Probably clears the path to a title better if St. Louis wins, but a Tigers-Phillies WS if they both make it that far would yield some delicious matchups. And Philadelphia fans are entertainingly obnoxious, that would get our blood flowing. I see St. Louis is more bland, especially since we already faced them in 2 of our past 3 World Series.

**Cecil** · 10-07-2011, 09:09 PM

Could you imagine another Detroit-St Louis World Series? The media would crazy about how wonderful it is that the two most miserable cities in the US have teams in the World Series.

**Porcelain God** · 10-07-2011, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff6851

Ogando not starting gives me a lot more confidence

Agreed, that was the pitcher I feared the most.

**byco42** · 10-07-2011, 09:15 PM

It took one inning of watching Game 5 for me to build up some contempt for the Brewers.

**PuNk42AE** · 10-07-2011, 09:15 PM

Everyone needs to remember that Texas is still a hell of an Offense.

#1 in Average, #3 in Runs (Detroit #4 70 behind), #2 in HR, #5 in SB

Also the only stat that our pitchers were better in were Saves.

**Titus Tiger** · 10-07-2011, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by KleShreen

she must have drawn that in the fist inning

**tigerjoe** · 10-07-2011, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Lousluggage

For some reason I'm seeing a 7 game series.... and I'm thinking that might not be a bad thing. The irrational fan in me is remembering how long the Tigers had to wait between the ALCS and the WS in '06 and how that turned out... even though I know in my head that's not sound thinking.

There have been so many classic baseball games in September and October so far and I bet it will continue.

**IdahoBert** · 10-08-2011, 01:23 AM

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**FloridaTigers** · 10-08-2011, 01:47 AM

I don't know if I want a Cardinals-Tigers rematch. Remember the last time we wanted to face St. Louis...

**tigerfanfromchicago** · 10-08-2011, 02:03 AM

I'm loving the intros on Tigers.com.

I think this is all of them.
-Final out of the 1968 World Series (note the mascot of the time)
-Gibson's HR in 1984
-Maggs walk off in 2006
-Tigers clinching the division this year
-Cabrera's HR in Game 2 of the ALDS
-Delmon's HR in Game 3
-Final Out of the ALDS