7/8/09 -- Kansas City Royals (Greinke) vs. Detroit Tigers (French) -- 7:05 PM

[wolverinefan]

Originally Posted by Sports_Freak

And Thanks JayVee for starting another wonderful game day thread. Your work is appreciated by many, many Tiger fans.

+10

I wish I had watched this game.

Good morale booster, the boys get to go into the off day on a positive note.

[budman]

rodney is 19 for 19, nice job. but, not perfect.

[Sports_Freak]

Originally Posted by JayVee7777

No problem. Hope you don't mind if I take the day off tomorrow.

Actually, I do mind. Could you just spend up until 4:00 P.M. EST voting for Brandon?

[pyrotigers]

Grienke gave up 3 runs and couldn't get the win against a weak offense, the question must be asked, is he really an ace? Strikeouts are nice but it's ERA and Wins that show you're getting the job done.

[84 Lives!!!]

Originally Posted by InfanteIago

Most important win of the year thus far.

Actually...

This was the most important series of the year...

[The Truman Show]

Originally Posted by pyrotigers

Grienke gave up 3 runs and couldn't get the win against a weak offense, the question must be asked, is he really an ace? Strikeouts are nice but it's ERA and Wins that show you're getting the job done.

Well, what it does prove is that Lucas French is clearly the better pitcher than Greinke, because wins and losses are what go in the standings.

[84 Lives!!!]

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

Well, what it does prove is that Lucas French is clearly the better pitcher than Greinke, because wins and losses are what go in the standings.

And therefore...

I had to change my first tag from "Greinke's Body Language!!!" to "French > Greinke". Because...

That's SO TRUE!!!

[pyrotigers]

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

Well, what it does prove is that Lucas French is clearly the better pitcher than Greinke, because wins and losses are what go in the standings.

Here is an actual quote from Joe Morgan in regards to Jason Marquis

"The name of the game, people always want to forget, for pitchers is wins and losses. If you beat a team 1-0, as he did recently, or 5-4, it doesn't matter. If you win, that goes on the team's side of the victory column. I'm not so much for a guy that has a low ERA and a losing record. That tells me that the other pitcher pitched better than he did, because that team scored more runs. Jason Marquis is a good pitcher. He's not a shut down pitcher, he's not a No. 1, but he deserves to be in the All-Star game."

[JayVee7777]

Originally Posted by pyrotigers

Here is an actual quote from Joe Morgan in regards to Jason Marquis

"The name of the game, people always want to forget, for pitchers is wins and losses. If you beat a team 1-0, as he did recently, or 5-4, it doesn't matter. If you win, that goes on the team's side of the victory column. I'm not so much for a guy that has a low ERA and a losing record. That tells me that the other pitcher pitched better than he did, because that team scored more runs. Jason Marquis is a good pitcher. He's not a shut down pitcher, he's not a No. 1, but he deserves to be in the All-Star game."

Well obviously, Joe is assuming that the pitcher in question has an abnormally low BABIP against, and will surely regress to the mean, thereby inflating his artificially low ERA.


Right?

[The Truman Show]

Originally Posted by JayVee7777

Well obviously, Joe is assuming that the pitcher in question has an abnormally low BABIP against, and will surely regress to the mean, thereby inflating his artificially low ERA.


Right?

I think if you asked Joe Morgan about BABIP, he'd start talking about TVs or phones.

[The Truman Show]

Originally Posted by pyrotigers

Here is an actual quote from Joe Morgan in regards to Jason Marquis

"The name of the game, people always want to forget, for pitchers is wins and losses. If you beat a team 1-0, as he did recently, or 5-4, it doesn't matter. If you win, that goes on the team's side of the victory column. I'm not so much for a guy that has a low ERA and a losing record. That tells me that the other pitcher pitched better than he did, because that team scored more runs. Jason Marquis is a good pitcher. He's not a shut down pitcher, he's not a No. 1, but he deserves to be in the All-Star game."

Yeah I've heard that quote before. Awesome.