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  1. It shouldn't be necessary, but of course it is, to say that he never called the virus or its spread a hoax, only the politicization of it by people like you. As for the availability of tests, as the poster you replied to noted, it's not as if there were millions of test kits sitting idly on shelves somewhere in America. It is a " novel" virus, and until samples of it were available -- and China was not only not cooperating when it was confined to there, it actually lied to the WHO and said that it was not something that could be transmitted from person to person --tests specific to this virus could not be created (and better and faster ones are still being created). And once created, the "kits" have to be manufactured and distributed. Which has been going on as rapidly as possible.
  2. Lots of people, including in the medical community, are running with that idea -- that the vast majority of people who get it and don't die as a result may become immune to it or at least be able to better fight it off in the future. Still too soon to tell on the immunity front, but several sources I've come across say that some of the possible therapies being explored, as well as of course possible vaccines, are based upon the use of antibodies from people who have been infected and have recovered.
  3. Well, I am concerned enough to follow Governor Whitmer's guidelines despite my antipathy to her. So I'm going to have only 49 guests over tonight to watch "The Quiet Man" and drink stout and 15-year-old Irish whiskey.
  4. Not many get it? Despite the availability of a vaccine, the CDC estimates that in the current flu season through the first week of March, 36 million to 51 million Americans have had the flu (and 22,000 to 55,000 have died from it). Those seem somewhat higher than the COVID-19 numbers. Even basket-case Italy has had only 31,000 confirmed coronavirus infections.
  5. Well, as long as it's a "top health official," it must be true.
  6. Uh, no, it does not have an "established death rate 30x that of the flu." If you use the absurdly unreliable and misleading formula of deaths divided by known infections, especially if mainly those with relatively serious symptoms are tested, you can get a pretty big number. But that ignores the many people who are infected but are not officially diagnosed and counted, because they aren't tested -- in many cases because they had no symptoms or were briefly sick and recovered. As I said earlier, in places where there has been wider testing and thus more of the "silent" infections have been detected, the death rate has been shown to be much more like that of the flu, instead of the alarming and alarmist 3 or 4 percent we keep hearing about.
  7. Doubling and increasing "exponentially," in the most common sense of that word (as in an exponent of two or greater) are not the same thing. 54 times two is 108. 108 times two is 216. 54 squared is 2916. 2916 squared is 8,503,056. 2916 and 8,503,056 would be worse. I haven't even gotten to "Outbreak," "Contagion," or "The Hot Zone" yet. And let's not forget "The Andromeda Strain."
  8. Yeah, because it's growing "exponentially," as the ink-stained wretches and the Kens and Barbies on television keep saying. What's the exponent for an increase from 54 to 65?
  9. Wow. Now almost everyone has it. Seems like it really did grow "exponentially." I feel very lonely, like the last human left in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
  10. In 2009, the novel influenza virus H1N1 hit. Over the course of about a year, tens of millions worldwide were infected -- the high estimate is 89 million. And a lot of people died -- well into six figures, with a high estimate of 575,000. Plus, unlike with most nasty viral outbreaks, a very large percentage of those who died were relatively young and otherwise healthy. So it was a really bad bug. Yet there was no panic, the world didn't shut down, and toilet paper was plentiful. And somehow the "pandemic" blew over and went away. As for the quarantining of a few people at your wife's hospital because of the flu, that is a far cry from bat**** craziness like shutting down the bars on St. Patrick's Day The numbers I've seen and the true mortality rate of COVID-19, and the fact that the people at serious risk from it seem to be mainly the usual suspects of the elderly and those with other significant health problems, make me very skeptical that the doomsday reaction to this outbreak is anywhere near necessary.
  11. Most people don't get tested for the flu, either. They get sick, and in the vast majority of cases they don't get tested or even see a doctor, they just ride it out, get better, and move on. In countries where a lot of coronavirus testing has been done and many positives have been found in non-serious cases, like South Korea, there is a mortality rate of something like 0.6 percent, or on the order of the mortality rate from the seasonal flu (an illness for which, unlike the coronavirus, there is a vaccine) -- a rate that is lower than the 3 or 4 percent that the hysterical media keep throwing out. That suggests that we may be closing down the country and dumping the economy in the s***ter for an illness that is no more dangerous, and quite possibly far less dangerous, than the typical seasonal flu.
  12. They will if we close down everything, including the banks and the gas stations and the grocery stores and the pharmacies. We have 54 confirmed cases in Michigan out of a population of about 10 million, which means -- according to Mara Gay and Brian Williams -- that 95 percent of the state's residents are infected and facing certain death. I'd suggest that everyone get their affairs in order, except that there will be no one to leave our stuff to except the viruses and cockroaches, anyway.
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