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  1. ALERT: Changing topic .. Those Baltimore Orioles gave up 4 runs in the top of the 9th inning two days ago to lose 8 - 5 .. and last night they gave up 6 runs in the top of the 9th inning to lose 11-10. Can anybody say "deliberately throwing games?" Good Luck though if the O's are deliberately trying to catch the Tigers for worst record. If my calculation is correct ..the Tigers magic number is 8. Any combination of Tiger Losses and/or Oriole Wins equaling 8 will give the Tigers the worse overall record and secure the #1 Draft pick. If Tigers go 6-5 (ha ha) .. O's need go 2-8 If Tigers go 5-6 .. O's need go 1-9. If Tigers go 4-7 .. O's need go 0-10 Not sure what the historical difference is between overall #1 vs #2 Draft pick is .. but would rather see the Tigers have first choice. .............. You may now return to your regular discussion....
  2. Either the old adage "'6 of 1, half dozen of another" ... or Gardenhire doing his best Ausmus imitation?
  3. Well, most of the Tigers players took the season off.
  4. But was it fair to criticize Magglio for his decrease in Home Run power? Mags hit 'only' 28 HR's in his MVP-type season at age 33 ..and followed that up with 21 HR's at age 34 ..and then basically played hurt until retiring at age 37. Seems to me it wasn't merely his drop in HR's that ruffled the ire of fans ..more like his overall huge decline in Extra Base Hits. For example, at age 33 he had 82 XBH ..age 34 dropped to 57 XBH ..then age 35 had only 35 XBH in 131 games. He rebounded nicely at age 36 with 30 XBH while appearing in just 84 games ..with a & OPS% of .852 and SLG% of .474. He had a career SLG% of .502
  5. ktpinnacle correctly matched the names with the stat lines. Again, includes only Detroit Tigers during their own ages 33 through 36 ..and only since 1946. Interesting about Miggy .. he has the 7th most Games and AB's ..5th most HR's ..but only 9th in Runs & 8th in RBI's ..and maybe more importantly ..only 8th in WAR. Quite naturally, he is last in Stolen Bases with exactly 0. Also interesting that Mike Heath made this list. A bit more understandable when considering it is only for players who played for the Detroit Tigers during their own ages 33 through 36. Clearly Magglio Ordonez is best in many categories. 1st in Hits, Doubles, RBI's, Batting Average, Slugging, OPS, wOBA, and wRC+. Looking back though, I recall during his last couple years there was quite a bit of negativity about him. All in all ...Still a pretty impressive list of Detroit Tigers there!
  6. You're welcome. Did you look them up ..or did you notice the 'logical order in the names' was in the reverse alphabetical order of their first names?
  7. Projected 2019 Opening day Lineup was: c Grayson Greiner 1b Miguel Cabrera 2b Josh Harrison ss Jordy Mercer 3b Jeimer Candelario lf Christian Stewart cf Mikie Mahtook (Jacoby Jones on injured list) rf Nick Castellanos DH Niko Goodrum Bench: John Hicks, Gordon Beckham, Dustin Peterson Starting Pitchers: (Michael Fulmer on injured list), Suckdan Zimmerman, Matt Boyd, Tyson Ross, Matt Moore, Daniel Norris, Spencer Turnbull Bullpen: Shane Greene, Joe Jimenez, Victor Alcantara, Buck Farmer, Reed Garrett, Blaine Hardy, Daniel Stumpf, (Drew VerHagen on injured list.) _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Current roster 09/17/19 c Grayson Greiner 1b Jeimer Candelario 2b Jordy Mercer ss Willi Castro 3b Dawel Lugo lf Brandon Dixon cf Victor Reyes rf Travis Demeritte DH Miguel Cabrera Bench: John Hicks, Harold Castro, Christian Stewart, Jake Rogers, Gordon Beckham, Ronny Rodriguez Starting Pitchers: Matt Boyd, Spencer Turnbull, Daniel Norris, Edwin Jackson, Suckdan Zimmerman, Tyler Alexander Bullpen: Joe Jimenez, Buck Farmer, Jose Cisnero, Nick Ramirez, Drew VerHagen, Gregory Soto, Zac Reininger, Matt Hall, John Schreiber, Bryan Garcia, David McKay. Injured list: Jacoby Jones (cf), Niko Goodrum (util), Michael Fulmer (SP) _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I fully expect better next year than this year. Surely everything cannot keep going wrong wrong wrong every step of the way.
  8. I am not expecting the Tigers to be as bad next year as this year. A lot of things went woefully wrong for the Tigers this year ..most notably the injuries early on to starting pitchers Mike Fulmer, Matt Moore, and Tyler Ross ..also early injuries of various lengths to expected starting positional players Josh Harrison, Jordy Mercer, and Jacoby Jones. Nearly every Tiger suffered some sort of injury this year ..including additional injury (knee) to Miguel Cabrera ..as well as continued nagging injuries to Suckdan Zimmerman. Couple all the injuries with less than expected production from Nick Castellanos while he was here ..and the total suck of Mikie Mahtook, Bobby Wilson, Jamier Candelario, ..and less than expected productivity from Christian Stewart and Miguel Cabrera (among others.) Everybody knew before season started that the Tigers were going to be bad ..but injuries and less-than-expected production made them much much worse. They basically took a bad team and patched it together with even worse talent overall. Barring a miracle ..next year should be quite bad too ..but likely not as bad as this year.
  9. I was thinking the same thing. Not sure why I suggested 4yr/$40m. I based $10/yr solely on his $8m salary this year. He may sign for as little as 1 year $5m .. and might be willing to sign 4yr/$16m. Not sure I'd even want him for 4 years. One year at a time would be best.
  10. Those may be somewhat skewed due to there historically being more RH hitters than LH hitters. One recent source claims that only 39% of MLB hitters bat left-handed. Thus, simple math suggests 61% bat right-handed. So if historically, 61% of hitters batted right-handed vs 39% batted left-handed .. logic would suggest that there should be approximately 61% right-handed hitters in the top percentiles of those hitting categories. Link provided: https://www.gamesensesports.com/knowledge/2017/3/17/righties-vs-lefties-the-importance-of-handedness-training-in-baseball-hitting
  11. Unfortunately .. does not appear to be any worth-the-money FA first baseman available after this season .. unless the Blue Jays fail to resign Justin Smoak and Tigers could get him at something like 4yr/$40m. That could secure the Tigers first base weakness until they can draft and then develop one on the farms.
  12. Yes .. more and more I am trying to remember that .. and including not only the MLB players ..but also the MiLB players ..as well as the owner(s), executives, managers, coaches, ground crews, announcers, writers, ..etc etc ..except for maybe Lynn Henning (...kidding!.) btw: Because of Chace Numata's untimely death and ultimate unselfish generosity ..I am now seriously (heartfully) considering donating parts of my body after death. Big decision ..really!
  13. Miguel Cabrera is 36 years old. His offensive productivity is currently a mere shell of his former self. Seems to me (IMHO) that Miggy gets far more than his fair share of negativity ('nagativity'?) on various websites. Is it likely that some of the negativity towards Miggy may stem from the enormous amount of money he gets paid? Because otherwise, Miggy's combined stats during his ages 33 thru 36 (so far) compare favorably with several other well remembered and well liked former Tiger players since 1946. Interesting 'fangraphs' stat lines listed below are for 15 Detroit Tiger players who played for the Tigers for all or part of their own ages 33 thru 36, ..and only their games with the Detroit Tigers during their respective ages 33 thru 36 are included even though some players also played for another team(s) during that age span. The names of the 15 Detroit Tiger players (not in any specific order) include Miguel Cabrera, Norm Cash, Lou Whitaker, Magglio Ordonez, Al Kaline, Ivan Rodriguez, Ian Kinsler, Victor Martinez, Tony Phillips, Dave Bergman, Rusty Staub, Chet Lemon, Mike Heath, Alan Trammell, Bill Bruton. Oh yeah .. .. .. I have deleted the names of 10 of the 15 players from the stat list. Without looking it up .. Can you guess the unnamed players in the list below? There is a logical order in the names of those listed that I will not divulge (see if you can figure it out.) The only other hint I will provide is that the 3 stat lines below in bold are in the Hall of Fame. If it helps, you may copy the list and paste it into an Excel spreadsheet ..although may need to utilize the 'paste special' feature - 'text' option. First Last G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BA OBP SLG OPS wOBA wRC+ WAR ____ ________ 430 1606 194 478 89 0 57 250 3 0.298 0.360 0.460 0.819 0.350 123 3.3 Tony Phillips 424 1610 318 467 78 6 36 182 41 0.290 0.413 0.413 0.826 0.377 129 14.1 ____ ________ 388 1511 191 406 76 5 55 262 5 0.269 0.340 0.435 0.775 0.344 110 3.7 Norm Cash 534 1716 261 467 58 10 94 281 4 0.272 0.363 0.482 0.845 0.379 138 12.9 ____ ________ 330 985 108 258 41 6 22 99 15 0.262 0.309 0.383 0.692 0.312 95 4.0 Miguel Cabrera 454 1668 198 480 85 1 67 245 0 0.288 0.364 0.460 0.824 0.349 119 5.2 ____ ________ 518 1944 299 636 127 5 70 351 9 0.327 0.394 0.506 0.900 0.391 139 13.0 ____ ________ 519 1778 318 480 106 5 69 276 21 0.270 0.380 0.452 0.832 0.372 130 17.5 ____ ________ 476 1855 228 533 108 15 43 214 23 0.287 0.312 0.431 0.743 0.320 91 8.8 ____ ________ 446 1793 301 493 89 14 61 208 38 0.275 0.335 0.442 0.777 0.335 109 11.9 Dave Bergman 409 976 114 265 40 5 19 103 1 0.272 0.358 0.381 0.739 0.334 109 2.4 ____ ________ 375 1248 151 316 64 10 29 143 5 0.253 0.342 0.390 0.732 0.331 108 3.6 Bill Bruton 307 1157 189 309 42 10 33 137 36 0.267 0.336 0.406 0.743 0.334 98 5.1 ____ ________ 318 1170 178 331 69 5 30 154 28 0.283 0.345 0.427 0.772 0.344 108 6.8 ____ ________ 497 1655 256 467 74 7 62 247 13 0.282 0.382 0.448 0.829 0.372 133 12.0
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