Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn fired in Detroit Lions Posted 10 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: The first problem the Lions is have is we are never as an organization allowed to ask those types of question. We won't know if the guy can hit a slider or not because we have another guy on the roster that we refuse to move on from to give the other guy a chance. It's like watching the obvious struggles of Miggy over the past several season and refusing to draft a future replacement for him based off of what Miggy was in the past or what we cross our fingers and hope he might be again one day, even though we know he's on the wrong side of 30. We've become so gun shy about moving on from Stafford that we've bronzed a statue for him already outside of Ford Field even though we've never won a thing of note with our $135,000,000 commodity. If you want to debate that in the past Stafford has not been the problem and there was never a need to move on from him, fine, we can have that debate. If we do, I'm going to keep referencing the fact that he never beats anyone of significance, has yet to win a big game, has no playoffs wins, pads his stats late in games, and has been a statistical train wreck against average, above average, and great defensive units. We need to first get past the fear that we may indeed fail when moving on from Stafford. We could be the Chicago Bears and end up with a Mitch Trubisky/Nick Foles disaster scenario at QB. We could draft a guy who ends up becoming the next Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Trevor Simieon, or Josh Rosen. We could end up with an entire lost decade where we are endlessly searching for Stafford's replacement. That happens in the NFL all the time, but it is a risk we simply have to take at this point. We have to empower our next GM though to be able to go out and make any move they want, including moving on from Stafford and potentially drafting an unknown commodity, like Trey Lance, that could boom or bust. From the people who are smarter than me, NFL insiders, scouts, player personnel, they all seem to think Lance can indeed do the aforementioned things in Daniel Jeramiah's scouting report at a big league level, when the game speeds up. They aren't talking about him as a top QB prospect and a top 10 pick because he's the best of a bad lot and there is no one else out there. They seem to place high value on the talent and traits that Lance has and think of him as a guy who has the tools necessary to be a good NFL starting QB. I'm ready and have been ready to see if the grass is greener on the otherside or not. I could end up with egg on my face like I did suggesting Connor Cook would be a good NFL prospect or we could be drafting a top tier NFL QB in Lance. If we aren't willing to move on it though, we can never ask the question and get the answer. Also what is your point regarding Miggy? They drafted Torkelson.