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  1. 4hzglory

    2018-19 Off-season Thread

    I know I'm definitely for trading him for a solid return. I just was completely against non-tendering him and would rather keep him at least to the trade deadline than trade him for scraps now. At the deadline, go ahead and move him for basically whatever if we aren't signing him to a team friendly extension (i.e. 3 yrs $30-40 mil). I think the extension is very unlikely.
  2. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    I definitely agree with the one aspect thing. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think saving errors on bad throws is one of the more important parts of fielding 1b. And I wouldn't call Cabrera a good fielder, but overall I think he is middle of the pack. I'm not confident Castellanos would be quite at that level.
  3. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    Cabrera is one of the better first basemen at picking bad throws. He isn't near as bad at first as you are implying.
  4. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    I think it would make more sense to have them split the time if you are considering moving Castellanos to 1b. Cabrera is likely the better 1b and I'm not sure how much if any of Cabrera's injuries are related to playing 1b.
  5. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    Why is it much different than Fiers? We don't have anyone ready in the OF, have a need for offense, he has potential for upside? There was some interest in him last trade deadline, so the chance is definitely there to get something for him - likely similar to 84's interesting analogy. If he gets to the 30 HR range, with his obp, his age and the ability to play OF, 3b, and potentially 1b, even at a below average level, he has more value than someone like Cron. (who was claimed so at least 1 team did see value in him at a price the Rays didn't). If Castellanos repeats this season in 2019, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get at least 3 years $30 mil from someone. If that would be his price, depending on development of our prospects this year/Cabrera's health, I'd be ok with that team being the Tigers. It would mean moving Stewart as I wouldn't want either of them starting in the OF every day.
  6. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    No, I wouldn't sign him, you are right about that. However, if they didn't have him, I could see the Tigers pursuing a free agent OF/IF of his caliber for 1 year in the $7-8 million range with the hope of catching lightning in the bottle and trading him for anything of value. Is the $2-3 million difference for a player who the team has put out in front in is marketing and leadership has talked about his mentoring young players really worth it? The Tigers did a similar thing with Iglesias last off season even though they knew it was unlikely they would resign him this year. I'd also be looking at all options to trade him now and during the season, as well as extending him reasonably (which I don't think will happen.) I do agree with Lee that it non-tendering him definitely would send a message to fans about the cheapness of the team. McCann is a completely different story. Castellanos has shown his upside at the plate and other internal options for this season would be significant downgrades. McCann has shown consistent struggles at the plate and overall average behind the plate despite a great arm. The crazy thing is, I don't really care how much they win this year and usually lean towards saving the $, (I.E. Kinsler last off season). It's just other than a healthy Cabrera and a bounceback (mainly health) for Candelario, if you remove Castellanos from our offense, there is very little entertaining at all. To give let him go for nothing would be a poor message to the fans and the team. It isn't about winning this year, but you do have to be at least somewhat competitive for the integrity of the sport.
  7. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    Call me crazy, but I do think if other factors our equal, players consider how teams treat their players. The Tigers evidently think enough of Castellanos to have requested he (and Greene) have a podcast to communicate with fans. He definitely is a bigger part of the face of the team than any of the players you mentioned above. If I'm a Free agent who has options, and sees a team non-tender a 26 year old who did what he could to promote the team, was the best offensive player and one of the most visible faces of the franchise the year before, I would definitely lower them on my list. Especially when the contract he would be getting is reasonably fair. Now it doesn't mean he wouldn't be traded, but then you could understand the team is getting some value for him and he is still getting treated fairly. Also, Moustakas is a different story as he had the qualifying offer attached to him. I also think he had an offer from the Angels, but had is initial value set so high they moved on. He was reported to be seeking 5 years $75-90 million at the start of last off-season.
  8. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    Exactly. And it isn't just fans. If a player has 2 otherwise equal options, they are less likely to want to play for a team that is perceived as so cheap they would non-tender their 26 year old .850 ops who is set to make ~$10 mil
  9. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    I think there is a big difference in non tendering McCann and non tendering Castellanos. I hope they non tender McCann and I don't think many would have an issue with that.
  10. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    Like was mentioned, we don't know that he is untradable. There were at least 3-4 teams interested in him at the deadline including the Indians. I have no doubt they could move him at the deadline if they don't have any desire to resign him. They might not get much, but even a Lugo or Castro is better than the image non-tendering one of the teams most well-known and better hitting young players just to save $.
  11. 4hzglory

    The argument for Nick Castellanos

    My 18 year old son actually became a much bigger fan of Castellanos this past season, mainly due to the attitude he portrayed on the podcast he and Greene did. My son really enjoyed the podcast and had enough sense of Castellanos' attitude during the rebuild to appreciate him and hope he stays. Not that it would make a difference of us going to a game, but there is at least one fan who would be disappointed if Castellanos was no longer on the team, even though he is realistic to know Castellanos' shortcomings and know that it may be the right move to move him. I don't know that Castellanos brings in more fans, but I do think non-tendering him would cause more not to show up as it would give the impression that the organization doesn't care about even pretending to be remotely competitive.
  12. 4hzglory

    Fist City: population...Rod and Mario

    So she had the pleasure of dealing with the stench last year from the biosolids 🙂 My son drives by your sister's every day on the way to school then. He goes to Lenawee Christian. Small world!
  13. 4hzglory

    Fist City: population...Rod and Mario

    We are about 15 minutes from Adrian - near Kapnick Orchard if you know where that is. Our son goes to school in Adrian which is the reason we moved up from Ohio.
  14. 4hzglory

    Fist City: population...Rod and Mario

    What part of Northwest Ohio? 96.1 out of Archbold/Wauseon reaches about 40 miles north into Michigan pretty well - It often comes in better near my house just south of Tecumseh than 97.1 does.
  15. Not only that, another scenario would be if another team is looking to "dump" a contract, it gives extra flexibility. \If we could save $37 million on Zimmerman's deal, I'm willing to take any kind of flyer for a prospect. Realistically I think we would only save $20 -$25 million in which case it becomes more of a decision. To answer Shelton's earlier question, I think Zimmerman would get maximum of a 2 year $20 million deal on the open market, at least that is the most I'd think he would be worth to a team in our position. So I guess that would be the threshold I'd go to as far as when he's worth more to us on our roster than trading him. Thus as you get closer to only saving $20 mil, the price in terms of prospects needed definitely goes up for me.
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