Dan Gilmore

His stats show a serious decline to me. After 2012, he did manage a solid half season in 2017, but other than that, quite a bit of suck.

I seldom post in any forum, and never in the political one. I do read that forum, there are many good links to sources for being more informed as a person and as a citizen. I learn things there. But the drivel spewed by the two banned members was corrosive, not counterpoint. Good riddance.

Baseball also has the problem of consumer attention diluted over a 162 season + ST & Playoffs. For the majority of the season each single game is far less important than in football. The avid fan pays attention and savors the matchups, speculates on mid-season trades, watches the IL, etc.. For us it all goes together in our love for the game. Not so for the millions that pay slight attention until October...and then football is there to weaken interest. I agree with the other comments that the game play has slowed down, and that it is important to have played the game as a young person (or had a family member player/fan). Not sure where the game is going now, the trends don’t look very good.

But we still like Sue.

I think the Aoki comp also relates to how many teams he played for in a few years, same for Dickerson.

Boyd’s and Torres’ values, by WAR or other means of evaluation, was different at the trade deadline than they are now. Boyd stumbled and Torres rose -not surprising, but not a given either. And with the Yankees losing the ALCS in part because their rotation was their weakness, I can see them considering the trade back in July. Short term gain only.

I would suspect that the injuries hitters develop are also less likely to by career ending, or as major an event. Are they more likely than a pitcher to have an off year due to injury and come back strong.

I don’t think I know much about hockey either. That said, from what I have seen of Seider so far it could be interpreted as lumbering, or maybe calm and deliberative. He seemed to me to have control of the puck and made smart decisions most of the time. Too many recent Wings defensemen have rushed things resulting in bad turnovers. Time will tell, but I like him so far.

Rodgers got 127 games at Erie, over two seasons. Then 48 at Toledo before being bumped up to Detroit (for another 29 games). Why would anyone expect a player to excel at hitting with that aggressive a promotion schedule? Especially as a catcher. He’s 24. I doubt he is destined for greatness, but am expecting improvement going forward.

I’d like to see them pick up a mid tier FA to improve the OF. Someone like Corey Dickerson, it’s not too expensive or lengthy. And the bullpen arms G2 has advocated for (several).

Yeah, giving up a hit with the 6 Ks seems more like maiming it...

I wanted to quote this and keep the discussion going on this idea. I’d like to see the Tigers sign some mid-tier free agents during the next off season. Not the Mercers or Harrisons of the world, but solid players that can improve the offense as the young pitchers come up. They hit on a few lottery tickets last year that they traded at the deadline. That could still happen with the potential new signings, but they wouldn’t be the main targets or plan. As has been documented here, there were some good players to be had cheaply last winter. Thoughts?

Merci

I am of a similar mind to TD-they will tank, but they won't suck quite as bad. And if they bring back some more young talent by selling a FA or two, all the better. None of this should stand in the way of developing/evaluating the core of players they see as important in several years.

I am fine with letting Jones have CF as the regular, but think it's smart to look for a cheap option that provides insurance in case he isn't ready, or isn't capable. I don't know if Revere is that guy, but yeah, 2015 Revere would have been, 2016 Revere wouldn't. If he wants a contract like Jon Jay got (1/8mil), I'd pass. If he'd take something like 1/3 or so, I'd be interested.