sabretooth

No, I would not have been fine with that, because I expected Harbaugh to be a world-class coach with the existing group (and in many ways he was), and a world-class recruiter (which he has not been). I believed that Michigan was poised to be an elite program. What I absolutely failed to comprehend about college football until the last few years (I thank G2 and others for pointing this out) is how difficult or nearly impossible it is to build an elite program that's not in the south. Top 10? Demonstrably true. However, championship-level?....OSU seems to have sucked up the top-level recruits north of the M/D line for the time being. Does that mean that Michigan can't overtake OSU in the future? It does not mean that; with Meyer gone, it's possible that a power-shift opportunity is present. OTOH, it's **possible** (I see it suggested often but I have no way to verify independently) that structural differences in organizational culture between U/M and OSU might make overtaking them in recruiting extremely difficult (academic standards, willingness to bend the rules, etc.). Life is a constant negotiation between expectations/hope and reality. I believe I know more about the situation today than I did back then. I also know that Harbaugh is not a football god who can overtake an elite competitor with a snap of the fingers, especially **if** there are structural issues in the way as some have suggested. It's also possible that Harbaugh will be able to figure out how to out-recruit Ryan's crew now that Meyer is gone and things will have shifted towards U/M over the next few years. It also bears note, though you seem to dismiss this, that U/M is in far better competitive shape than it was when JH took over. They are not an elite top 5 team (yet), but they are a solid Top 10-15 team every year, winning double-digit games, and have eaten MSU's lunch from an organizational standpoint. I would love to compete with the best of the best, but for all of my childhood the Bo teams never really competed for a National Title, and I was perfectly happy (other than 1984 which was a stinker). Yes, the Bo teams beat OSU more often than not, but that OSU program was not anything even remotely close to the juggernaut they have been for the last 20 years....this year sporting three Heisman level stars at QB, RB and DT, and a long list of very good players. Firing Harbaugh would be the wrong move IMO.

I want Michigan to be better and win against OSU but to want to blow the program up to me seems silly. OSU is just way better relative to the NCAA now than the OSU of Bo's era was vs the rest of the NCAA at that time.

I shoulda stood in bed 🙂

When you think of it that way, those of us who bought a ticket were more valuable than you, and more valuable than most of of the Tigers too! Slacker. Oh wait, did you come to a game this year....n/m

If that is the plan, and this is the Owner/GM, I agree there is no hope. Not for the short or long term. With a good owner/GM/organization with the ability to develop talent above the curve they could tank for another season, get another top-5 pick in addition to the one coming up soon, and eek their way towards 80 wins and then spend their way to 90 wins and playoff contention after another 4 or 5 seasons, but definitely not gonna happen with this clown show of an organization.

yep

no....the three owners are CI, TG and MF....all utterly incompetent.

Another embarrassing stupid brain dead play sets up OSU to exploit our non existant D

Hudson and Black get my FU award for today.

how does Black make NO effort to reach the 1st down by switching hands or diving or something???????

Tarik Black WTF??????

a stop...a punt...no stupid penalty...miraculous

Hudson whiffs again

The question is: can Michigan's defense stop the buckeyes?!?! the answer is....pfffffbbht!! or bwahahahaha

yay