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  1. On 12/23/2019 at 1:32 PM, Charles Liston said:

    I want the guy who isn't a dh.

    Agree. A lumbering first baseman — in college no less — who will maybe be as good as Dave Kingman, if we’re lucky.

    Of course, Austin Martin, is a “pure hitter“ who is versatile and will perhaps be a moderately good defender who will be perfect for Comerica Park and hit the ball in the gaps which is the very embodiment of exciting “real baseball” even though his stat line may most likely disappoint. 

    If our team were the Astros — minus the naked misogyny and the cheating — I might be more optimistic about either of these two choices but we’re not and I’m not. Fortunately I don’t know anything and the only thing I’m really good at is complaining. 

  2. 3 minutes ago, sabretooth said:

    Dont worry, the additions of Cron and Schoop only improve us to 50 wins.

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  3. I haven't been paying much attention but haven’t seen any articles about Miguel Cabrera being once again in the “best shape of his life.“  Hopefully he won’t look heavier than at season’s end when he attends Tiger Fest.  Maybe he can ask Pudge Rodriguez about the “eating disorder“ he suffered when he came to spring training much thinner and less muscular looking than ever before. 

  4. These moves are probably on par with the sense of awakening experienced when the hottest cheerleader in school actually knows your first name and uses it in a class discussion, and while it’s almost certain to lead nowhere it’s still nice.

    I wonder if ownership has taken the pulse of fan enthusiasm and realized they’ve got to pony up and at least go through the motions of attempting to field a real team instead of waiting for it to magically congeal on its own “in the future.“



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  5. 16 hours ago, Buddha said:

    just like jd martinez, the tigers sold very low and then held up their hands and said "welp, there's nothing we could do!"

    sure there was.  dont trade them for junk.


    16 hours ago, tiger337 said:

    Correct on both Verlander and Martinez.  

    They made the decision that if they couldn’t win with players like this on the team being paid big money, it would be better to not win and spend a lot less instead and it was also a way get out from under Mike’s shadow and hit the reset button.

    It’s like in Freud‘s short book Totem and Taboo where the sons kill the tyrannical primal father who hordes all the women and bananas, then they eat his corpse and institute a new law prohibiting anyone in the future from doing what they did to him. Stuff like this is never pretty or completely rational.

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  6. If for the entire 2017 season Verlander were as dominant as he has been these last couple years, the Tigers might well have gotten something better. But other teams also knew that Detroit was desperate and that there was no reason to pay more than necessary. Add these two together and it’s a perfect storm for not getting very much. 

  7. 5 hours ago, Gehringer_2 said:

    You do need that system which is paying players whose ceilings were AAAA and AAA in particular, enough to stick around and create the final development environment for your serious prospects to work with/against.

    Top caliber competition is hard to come by but you do have to play against somebody. I’ve seen a ton of short-season class A games in the NWL. And even there, aside from the usual high draft picks out of college, half the guys even at that low level seem over their heads and going nowhere.

    In a perfect world everyone would be a true prospect and/or you could just train them in skills, but you couldn’t field much of a team and to have any kind of game experience at all over a true season there have to be a ton of filler guys that probably don’t belong there and are lucky to say that they were once drafted by a major-league team, and while it’s not rational it’s a logical accommodation of reality.

  8. This is a classic conflict between different fractions of one investor class. But there’s more to it than that. There are two machines, MLB and MiLB, and both need fuel (revenue) to keep their machines running. In the end, regardless of TV revenue etc. fan interest generates revenue and when that interest wanes — which is happening — the fuel becomes scarce.

    Historically, the special élan of baseball has been a wide ranging enculturation of which MiLB is a vital part. The soulless corporatism of the game is constantly trivializing it into just being another entertainment option. It makes it almost as stupid as rollerball. 

    I think MLB has to find a way to work with MiLB on this and to recognize the cultural stakes of fan interest and not merely see it as a flow of capital and instrumental efficiency issue.  

    I’m more of a Ken Burns romantic type of guy than a hedge fund type of guy, but in the end I think decimating MiLB is both financially short-sighted as well as culturally sacrilegious. These two machines need to find some way to get on a similar page.

    it’s always been a corporate thing but it’s also been more than that. When you get rid of the “more than that“ thing there’s nothing special about it which makes it literally worth less.


  9. 46 minutes ago, 1776 said:

    MLB vs MiLB getting ugly fast! From the MLB website today:

    The war between Major League Baseball and Minor League Baseball escalated significantly last night, with Minor League Baseball releasing a memo accusing Major League Baseball of “repeatedly and inaccurately” describing the former’s stance in negotiations and Major League Baseball responding by threatening to cut ties with Minor League Baseball entirely.

    As you’re no doubt aware, negotiations of the next 10-year Professional Baseball Agreement, which governs the relationship between the big leagues and the minors — and which is set to expire following the 2020 season — have turned acrimonious. Whereas past negotiations have been quick and uncontroversial, this time Major League Baseball presented Minor League Baseball with a plan to essentially contract 42 minor league baseball teams by eliminating their major league affiliation. Baseball is also demanding that Minor League Baseball undertake far more of the financial burden of player development which is normally the responsibility of the majors.

    That plan became public in October when Baseball America reported on the contraction scheme, after which elected officials such as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren began weighing in on the side of Minor League Baseball. Rob Manfred and Major League Baseball were not happy with all of that and, on Wednesday, Manfred bashed Minor League Baseball for taking the negotiations public and accused Minor League Baseball of intransigence, saying the minors had assumed a “take it or leave it” negotiating stance.

    Last night Minor League Baseball bashed back in the form of a four-page public memo countering Manfred’s claims, with point-point-by-point rebuttals of Major League Baseball’s talking points on various matters ranging from stadium facilities, team travel, and player health and welfare. You can read the memo in this Twitter thread from Josh Norris of Baseball America.

    Major League Baseball responded with its own public statement last night. But rather than publicly rebut Minor League Baseball’s claims, or to simply say, consistent with Manfred’s statement on Wednesday, that it preferred to negotiate in private, it threatened to simply drop any agreement with Minor League Baseball and, presumably start its own minor league system bypassing MiLB entirely:

    “If the National Association [of Minor League Clubs] has an interest in an agreement with Major League Baseball, it must address the very significant issues with the current system at the bargaining table. Otherwise, MLB clubs will be free to affiliate with any minor league team or potential team in the United States, including independent league teams and cities which are not permitted to compete for an affiliate under the current agreement.”

    So, in the space of about 48 hours, Manfred has gone from being angry at the existence of public negotiations to negotiating in public, angrily.

    As for Minor League Baseball going public itself, one Minor League Baseball owner’s comments to the Los Angeles Timesseems to sum up the thinking pretty well:

    “Rob is attempting to decimate the industry, destroy baseball in communities and eliminate thousands of jobs, and he’s upset that the owners of the teams have gone public with that information in an effort to save their teams. That’s rich.”

    Things, it seems, are going to get far worse before they get better. If, in fact, they do get better.

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    Thank you for posting this. I’m trying to limit my time in the alternate reality of social media and news and this is something I might not have run across otherwise. 

  10. Austin Romine is more than I thought this lick-spittle shadow of a team was willing to do this off-season. I like players like him the same way I like my women because both possess an unpredictable undertow of rage that may boil over with scant provocation. Thank you Al Avila for giving me hope. 

  11. There were times in the last month of the 2019 season that just by the look on his face I  could see he hated being there more than I hated watching these games. And I don’t blame him.

    Minnesota probably has a better farm system and they know how to teach fundamentals more than the Tigers do. I think he’s there to manage the game, not to teach players how to wipe their butts, tie their shoes, and zip up their flies.

    I think a robot without emotion would probably be the best manager for this team. Gardy is human enough for it to get to him. 

  12. I am so disinterested in this team right now. The only reason I come here is because of the people here. It’s sort of like Cheers but with no Diane or Rebecca, which is disappointing. 

    I like to think of myself as Frasier Crane only less insecure and with doc martens instead of wingtips or penny loafers.

  13. 5 hours ago, Yoda said:


    It was ok. The racing scenes were done really well, minus the exaggerated "hollywood" bits that they add to create drama because they think people don't know how cars work. But that's the same reason I hate all baseball movies. They can never just give an honest depiction. 

    Bale was very good. Damon did an ok job with a boring character. 

    My biggest complaint was the last 10 minutes. Entirely unnecessary. Until that point, they did a good job of sticking to the point of strictly making a movie about building a car. No unnecessary family drama or any of the standard Hollywood cliches. The movie should have ended when the race ended, with a blurb about Miles in text. Instead, it lingered for another 10 minutes to give is family drama that had nothing to do with building a car and to give Matt Damon a crying moment. It cheapened the movie. 

    Just my two cents. 

    If you’re interested in a more of a documentary approach the mini documentaries on grand tour on Amazon about the history of racing are superb. But you won’t get to see a vivid depiction of Ken Miles hot English Carnaby Street era wife, which is a downside.

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