Chick-fil-A

[DrWho17]

Why the anti-gay marriage fetish among you anti-gay marriage types? Y'all have come to accept people divorcing and remarrying. You even accept usury and all sorts of other things that the Old Testament forbids. Why all the attention towards gay people? Why make your stand there? They're not all bad. Why not throw them a bone? They can't possibly do a worse job with marriage than heteros have AND there are fewer innocent victims when a gay marriage goes south, i.e. children of broken homes. I personally just think you're being mean or obstinate or prideful or other things the Bible seems to frown upon.

Why the pro-gay fetish amongst your types? Why the name calling, maybe you would get some where if you didn't think people who believe marriage is between a man and woman were all bigoted/homophobes. You are the person here appealing to the lowest common denominator, not the people you are calling names.

[ROMAD1]

Chick-fil-A spokesman dies amid furor over same-sex marriage | Nation/world Business | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Shame it had to come to this.

[pfife]

Which lesbian provided the sperm? And how sad that they chose to deprive their children of a father.

Spawn was Mr DNA's word. I merely repeated it.

And I'd prefer if you kept big government from redefining marriage.

my position is small government.

why is that part in white?

[Lousluggage]

I keep thinking of a post Melody made earlier in this thread, about all this nastiness over a chicken sandwich.

Oh well.

[shabba4detroit]

my position is small government.

why is that part in white?

I was originally going to post a much more NC-17 type comment. Put it in white so that it wouldn't offend the casual reader. Then I changed my mind. Didn't change the white.

[shabba4detroit]

my position is small government.

why is that part in white?

Small government would seek to get government out of the marriage promotion business. Undoing the entitlements that come with marriage.

[pfife]

Small government would seek to get government out of the marriage promotion business. Undoing the entitlements that come with marriage.

yeah that would be the smallest government

[Ingefanclub]

Most Americans are against gay marriage so democrats are barking up the wrong tree on this subject. They are backing an immoral action and losing votes at the same time.

[hueytaxi]

Question: if you had a daughter who was gay, would you prevent her from fulfilling her dream by denying her same sex marriage?

You like to interrupt a dialogue it seems. The question was fine, just the timing seems inconsiderate. Oh well, never mind, the original question was ignored anyway.

[Gehringer_2]

Chick-fil-A spokesman dies amid furor over same-sex marriage | Nation/world Business | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Shame it had to come to this.

You'd think a guy running PR for a firm that usually has a profile as low as CAF would enjoy the action. Of course I suppose that could be fatal too if the ticker is bad.

[pfife]

Most Americans are against gay marriage so democrats are barking up the wrong tree on this subject. They are backing an immoral action and losing votes at the same time.

Strange, I keep hearing Obama came out for gay marriage when he did because of the election. According to you, he apparently wants to lose on purpose.

[Ingefanclub]

Strange, I keep hearing Obama came out for gay marriage when he did because of the election. According to you, he apparently wants to lose on purpose.

Well Obama had to do this as most democrats are for gay marriage but blacks are not for gay marriage.
I would guess 65% of democrats are for gay marriage so he is forced to support it or lose the base.

I know Obama was against gay marriage originally but has now pandered to his base.
I see the problem is Obama won about 95% of the black vote last time.
This time he may win 90% of the black vote which means twice as many blacks will vote for the Republican candidate. That is going to make it awfully hard to win the Presidency.

[ewsieg]

Well Obama had to do this as most democrats are for gay marriage but blacks are not for gay marriage.
I would guess 65% of democrats are for gay marriage so he is forced to support it or lose the base.

I know Obama was against gay marriage originally but has now pandered to his base.
I see the problem is Obama won about 95% of the black vote last time.
This time he may win 90% of the black vote which means twice as many blacks will vote for the Republican candidate. That is going to make it awfully hard to win the Presidency.

Seriously???? 5% difference in a 15% minority race where probably only about 50% (similar to the national average i'm pretty sure) vote is going to sway this election?

Whereas he likely appeased most independent white women with his stance. Yeah, i'm sure he's shaking.

[Melody]

The NY Post headline on the counter protest yesterday was pretty classic:

"Chicken Lips are Scarce."

EDIT: Venture into the comments at your own risk. Pretty nasty.

[drownwithyou]

EDIT: Venture into the comments at your own risk. Pretty nasty.

Comments on internet columns make me hate humanity.

[ROMAD1]

funny story? judge for yourself.

I have a Chik Fil A near the house. It happens to be by the Wal-Mart (check off two hot button businesses for this forum)

I drove by today and saw immense lines with many small kids leading toward the direction of the Chik Fil-A. I called my friend to ask him if the "kiss in" was supposed to be today and what were all the kids doing there if that was what the deal was.

turns out the nearby Dulles Expo center was having the 2012 Brick Fair...the Lego convention. Lego trumps your politics man! Those lines were f'in crazy...made me not want to go. Longer than any recent gun show there...which says a lot because the gun strokes love those shows...but there are usually more than one a quarter in the area.

[Lousluggage]

Comments on internet columns make me hate humanity.

Pretty much....

[Oblong]

I ate at Chick Fil A in Cedar Point yesterday. We had 7 people in our group, 3 kids and a grandma, so a sit down place was a must. It's where we were in the park. The staff was incredibly nice, one lady even came out to our table asking us if we "have everything we need?". Later she brought us mints. I don't know if that's how it always is/was but exceptional service extends beyond politics in my opinion.

[drownwithyou]

I ate at Chick Fil A in Cedar Point yesterday. We had 7 people in our group, 3 kids and a grandma, so a sit down place was a must. It's where we were in the park. The staff was incredibly nice, one lady even came out to our table asking us if we "have everything we need?". Later she brought us mints. I don't know if that's how it always is/was but exceptional service extends beyond politics in my opinion.

The few times I went there before everyone was pretty nice and they had great service.

I saw a cool picture the other day of a CFA employee bringing out lemonades to protestors outside.

[pfife]

Well Obama had to do this as most democrats are for gay marriage but blacks are not for gay marriage.
I would guess 65% of democrats are for gay marriage so he is forced to support it or lose the base.

I know Obama was against gay marriage originally but has now pandered to his base.
I see the problem is Obama won about 95% of the black vote last time.
This time he may win 90% of the black vote which means twice as many blacks will vote for the Republican candidate. That is going to make it awfully hard to win the Presidency.

Do you seriously believe what you type?

You think Obama loses his base if he doesn't support gay marriage?

That's honestly ridiculous.

[Melody]

I can't see that most people vote for president according to social issues. A factor, yes. But not the main thing that voters except the extreme wings decide on.

I also don't expect to see a bunch of black Democrats crossing to vote for Romney, or any Republican.

Obama doesn't have the momentum he had in 2008. But Romney doesn't seem to be all that inspirational to the right either. I think it's going to come down to who stays at home on election day.

[mtutiger]

I ate at Chick Fil A in Cedar Point yesterday. We had 7 people in our group, 3 kids and a grandma, so a sit down place was a must. It's where we were in the park. The staff was incredibly nice, one lady even came out to our table asking us if we "have everything we need?". Later she brought us mints. I don't know if that's how it always is/was but exceptional service extends beyond politics in my opinion.

I vehemently disagree with their political stance, but if I go there, this is the kind of service I recieve and you're right, it extends beyond politics.

[pfife]

I can't see that most people vote for president according to social issues. A factor, yes. But not the main thing that voters except the extreme wings decide on.

I also don't expect to see a bunch of black Democrats crossing to vote for Romney, or any Republican.

Obama doesn't have the momentum he had in 2008. But Romney doesn't seem to be all that inspirational to the right either. I think it's going to come down to who stays at home on election day.

Agree with all of these statements

[smr-nj]

I predict low voter turnout.
On both fronts.

[Antrat]

The one we ate at the other day was in Bristol, VA.
My experience was the same as Oblong's. People were extremely nice and the food was meh.
We weren't making any political statement at all. My girlfriend loves their chicken, so we went there.
A day or two later we were passing by the place and there were cars lined up everywhere to get into the place. We were busy cleaning out her mother's house (she passed away in June) and didn't know about the "support" movement. We were stumped until a waitress at another restaurant told us what was up.
I honestly don't know if I care about anything enough to sit in line for hours to eat fast food.
I get irritated waiting fifteen minutes for a table at a good restaurant.

[Melody]

I honestly don't know if I care about anything enough to sit in line for hours to eat fast food.
I get irritated waiting fifteen minutes for a table at a good restaurant.

Agree.

[Truth]

I can't see that most people vote for president according to social issues. A factor, yes. But not the main thing that voters except the extreme wings decide on.

I also don't expect to see a bunch of black Democrats crossing to vote for Romney, or any Republican.

Obama doesn't have the momentum he had in 2008. But Romney doesn't seem to be all that inspirational to the right either. I think it's going to come down to who stays at home on election day.

I don't have the figures handy burning 2004 some said that blacks voting for Bush over gay marriage was responsible for his win in Ohio. That's what these recent elections (with the.exception of 2008) seem to have come down to...50-50 propositions with candidates finding an edge with some demographic. Obama's evolution on gay marriage was a gift to Romney. It fires up the evangelicals that he's struggled with. But they are by no means a sure turnout. They didn't vote in the numbers expected in 2000, even with the pro- life, pro-traditional marriage Bush on the ticket who was favored by all the power brokers among the religious right. Supposedly the drunk driving story that came out days before the election dampened spirits (no pun intended) among them.

[Lousluggage]

There's a deli called Zaftig's in Coolidge Corner, down the road from me and on Sundays there is always a big crowd of people outside waiting to get in. I've always wondered if any place is that good. Then again, a lot of the fast casual restaurants around here give out buzzers to let people know when there's a table ready for them, and I definitely wouldn't want to wait 45 minutes for, say, an Olive Garden meal.

There are a couple of places in the North End (Mike's Pastry and Modern Pastry) that always have long lines but the staffs are efficient and they move quickly, so that's worth it. I've actually made friends while standing in lines before.

[Auburndale Ray]

[chasfh]

I can't see that most people vote for president according to social issues. A factor, yes. But not the main thing that voters except the extreme wings decide on.

I also don't expect to see a bunch of black Democrats crossing to vote for Romney, or any Republican.

Obama doesn't have the momentum he had in 2008. But Romney doesn't seem to be all that inspirational to the right either. I think it's going to come down to who stays at home on election day.

Good post.

[ROMAD1]

did anyone see that Antoine Dodson the hero of the bedroom rapist song from Autotune the news fame was both, Gay and a supporter of Chik-Fil-A? Both things are notable only because he's -- amazingly enough -- gotten an extra 30 seconds tacked onto his 15 minutes of fame.



Supporters of Ted Cruz and Chick-fil-A Break News | RealClearPolitics

In Huntsville, Ala., YouTube celebrity Antoine Dodson, who is openly gay, dined at Chick-fil-A on Wednesday. "That's what freedom is. We don't all have to believe in the same things," he told a Huntsville Times reporter.

"We all have our different beliefs and can still come together and still be friends and be cool with each other," he said. "So I'm here to be in support of the employees, and I'm also coming to get that spicy chicken sandwich*."

Dodson presumably is not an expert on the Constitution like Ted Cruz. But he has something to teach the liberal mainstream media about the spirit of the Founders.

*it was not clear what he meant by this double entendre

[Auburndale Ray]

Well...I thought about going to Popeye's Chicken today...
But I couldn't find out their position on Syria or Iran...
And Chick-fil-A is much too crowded anymore...

[ROMAD1]

Well...I thought about going to Popeye's Chicken today...
But I couldn't find out their position on Syria or Iran...
And Chick-fil-A is much too crowded anymore...

Popeye's is actually a notorious mouthpiece for the Catholic church. Look at their name its a carefully crafted propaganda statement. Pope Yes.

[chasfh]

Popeye's is actually a notorious mouthpiece for the Catholic church. Look at their name its a carefully crafted propaganda statement. Pope Yes.

LOL! Nice!

[Melody]

Popeye's is actually a notorious mouthpiece for the Catholic church. Look at their name its a carefully crafted propaganda statement. Pope Yes.

LOL! LOL!

[chasfh]

Awesome:

[RedRamage]

Awesome:

Overtly simplistic and misleading or inaccurate in some of the comments about what the Bible does or doesn't say.

Not entirely incorrect though.

I do, however, find it funny sometimes. This pic, which seems to preach how religious people are intolerant if they deny homosexual's the ability to marry, would be so intolerant of religion by saying something like: "Have fun living your sexist, chauvinistic, judgmental, xenophobic lifestyle choice."

I understand being intolerant of people who are intolerant isn't really hypocritical. I'm not saying that. But the word choice is far from being 'intolerant.' Kinda reminds me of the PC vs. Mac ads. Mac people will love 'em because they talk up the Mac and make fun of the PC. But you're not really gonna convert to many people to Macs with those types of ads.

Same thing here... this is cute and funny and all, but does you think with the way it's written... with the word choice used, with the condescending attitude that it's going to convert anyone to the cause? Pro-gay marriage/anti-religious objector people will support it and say how cool it is. Pro-gay marriage/pro-religion people will probably respond much like I have here... "Might be some points, but also some real problem with it." Anti-gay marriage/pro-religion people will dismiss it as wrong, useless, and condescending.

So what's the point? Is the creator of this picture trying to actually further the discussion or just trying to make his/herself feel better and get a little chuckle?

[shabba4detroit]

Overtly simplistic and misleading or inaccurate in some of the comments about what the Bible does or doesn't say.

Not entirely incorrect though.

I do, however, find it funny sometimes. This pic, which seems to preach how religious people are intolerant if they deny homosexual's the ability to marry, would be so intolerant of religion by saying something like: "Have fun living your sexist, chauvinistic, judgmental, xenophobic lifestyle choice."

I understand being intolerant of people who are intolerant isn't really hypocritical. I'm not saying that. But the word choice is far from being 'intolerant.' Kinda reminds me of the PC vs. Mac ads. Mac people will love 'em because they talk up the Mac and make fun of the PC. But you're not really gonna convert to many people to Macs with those types of ads.

Same thing here... this is cute and funny and all, but does you think with the way it's written... with the word choice used, with the condescending attitude that it's going to convert anyone to the cause? Pro-gay marriage/anti-religious objector people will support it and say how cool it is. Pro-gay marriage/pro-religion people will probably respond much like I have here... "Might be some points, but also some real problem with it." Anti-gay marriage/pro-religion people will dismiss it as wrong, useless, and condescending.

So what's the point? Is the creator of this picture trying to actually further the discussion or just trying to make his/herself feel better and get a little chuckle?

Well put.

[John_Brian_K]

There is not an option for me...I am stuck at a dead end...none of those reasons apply to why I am not a supporter of gay marriage. And I think there is something to be said of tolerance for the intolerant. I know... I know....I MUST be homophobic.

Let us examine homophobia a little for those who think everyone that is not a supporter of gay marriage must be:

Homophobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).

I have no negative feelings or attitudes towards gay people.

Definitions refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, irrational fear, and hatred.

None of that applies..I had to double check 'aversion' because I thought it may fit, but it does not.

Red pretty much said it all, but while these little user created pics have some validity they fail to shine anything on the issue by simply saying 'welcome to civilized society and the other people are crazy'...

[chasfh]

Overtly simplistic and misleading or inaccurate in some of the comments about what the Bible does or doesn't say.

Not entirely incorrect though.

I do, however, find it funny sometimes. This pic, which seems to preach how religious people are intolerant if they deny homosexual's the ability to marry, would be so intolerant of religion by saying something like: "Have fun living your sexist, chauvinistic, judgmental, xenophobic lifestyle choice."

I understand being intolerant of people who are intolerant isn't really hypocritical. I'm not saying that. But the word choice is far from being 'intolerant.' Kinda reminds me of the PC vs. Mac ads. Mac people will love 'em because they talk up the Mac and make fun of the PC. But you're not really gonna convert to many people to Macs with those types of ads.

Same thing here... this is cute and funny and all, but does you think with the way it's written... with the word choice used, with the condescending attitude that it's going to convert anyone to the cause? Pro-gay marriage/anti-religious objector people will support it and say how cool it is. Pro-gay marriage/pro-religion people will probably respond much like I have here... "Might be some points, but also some real problem with it." Anti-gay marriage/pro-religion people will dismiss it as wrong, useless, and condescending.

So what's the point? Is the creator of this picture trying to actually further the discussion or just trying to make his/herself feel better and get a little chuckle?

You've provided a totally fair critique of the tone. If I were the one smart enough to conceive of this, I would have dialed back that part of it. Too many exclamation points for my liking, and it is rather condescending.

What I think is awesome is the decision tree itself. As far as I can tell, this pretty much checkmates all the biblical arguments some people cite as the source of their opposition to same sex marriage (SSM), unless it's neglecting some. I think it would be at least as effective, maybe more so, without the snarkiness you point out.

Or would it? I mean, let's face it: nothing short of having a close relative come out is going to change any opponent's mind about SSM. Their opposition reflects a core moral view which they have committed to, and challenging that in any way is only going to lead them to dig in their heels and oppose SSM even harder.

So, what's the point? I think it's two-fold: (1) to jab SSM opponents by turning the very source of their opposition against them; and (2) to make SSM proponents feel good by seeing the very source of biblical opponents' opposition turn against them. Even though moral issue conservatives generally don't even respond to counterarguments based on verifiable facts, liberals simply like seeing the act of conservatives being confronted by verifiable facts. Liberals respect verifiable facts, so it makes them feel good to see this tactic employed.

Make sense?