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06-15-2012, 02:06 PM #1
factories have closed, and they probably aren't coming back
Faith Groups Sustain the Working Poor -- Printout -- TIME
There has been an economic collapse--factories have closed, and they probably aren't coming back--but there has been a moral collapse as well. Drugs, divorce and out-of-wedlock births have devastated these communities. Charles Murray, the libertarian counter to Thomas Frank, delivered this argument in his recent book Coming Apart. But the problem isn't just moral collapse or economic collapse. It's a combination of the two, with a lot of crass materialism and relentless globalization thrown in. This is an incredibly sad story, one that neither liberals nor conservatives who opine from above fully understand.
I hate to think that there is no hope for rural/small-town America and that good sustainable work will never return to a place like this.
06-15-2012, 02:15 PM #2"If you're committed enough, you can make any story work. I once convinced a woman that I was Kevin Costner and it worked... because I believed it!" - Saul Goodman
06-15-2012, 02:20 PM #3
06-15-2012, 04:43 PM #4
Either way, it's rich for conservatives to go after Sarah Jessica Parker when there are plenty of Romney donors who are out of touch with the problems in rural America."If you're committed enough, you can make any story work. I once convinced a woman that I was Kevin Costner and it worked... because I believed it!" - Saul Goodman
06-15-2012, 05:25 PM #5MotownSports Fan
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06-15-2012, 05:27 PM #6
[insert SJP dressage joke here]When our weapons are more precious than our children, our society is broken
hands like escalators.
06-15-2012, 05:57 PM #7
I would be more worried about the jobs coming back, and why, not what some actress or press idiot thinks.
But that's just me.The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it - John Kenneth Galbraith
06-15-2012, 06:09 PM #8
06-15-2012, 06:38 PM #9
speaking of animal faces, did anyone see triumph the insult dog on conan last night? that whole segment was pretty great i thought, would love to have heard it without all the bleeping.We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. - DDE
Those who take the extreme positions in American political and economic life are always wrong. - DDE
06-15-2012, 08:16 PM #10
I often get frustrated by the right for making poverty seem like it's only an "inner city" thing. That makes it easier for them to rail against anti-poverty programs -- by insinuating that it's all just free money going to blacks and Mexicans who spend it on drugs and rims.
But the left has done nothing to counter this and little to reach out to the rural and small-town poor, or turn the poverty issue into a nationwide bludgeon against the right like FDR was able to do. The majority of people in poverty in this country are still white. And Federal anti-poverty programs don't discriminate -- they help everyone. And conservative economics is terrible for these people.AAT: 2007 L. Oliveros | 2008-10 F. Martinez | 2011 H. Perez | 2012 E. Suarez | 2013 J. Kobernus
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