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Old 03-09-2010, 04:03 PM
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Default New traffic sign: Take Turns

Fifty percent of traffic accidents happen at intersections. Gary Lauder shares a brilliant and cheap idea for helping drivers move along smoothly: a new traffic sign that combines the properties of "Stop" and "Yield" -- and asks drivers to be polite.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/ga...ake_turns.html

Sounds a bit dubious to me, what do you think


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I don't have four and a half minutes to wait for a video to tell me the concept -- can you provide any more details?
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Gary Lauder's new traffic sign: Take Turns | Video on TED.com
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:24 PM
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I don't have four and a half minutes to wait for a video to tell me the concept -- can you provide any more details?
In a nutshell, stop signs waste time and gas. Roundabouts optimize time and energy. The problem is at a three way stop, where you have one road comming into a main street. There will be times where the side road will get backed up if there is only one stop sign there. The stop signs on the main thru street seem unnecessary and yield signs are not the proper answer. He proposes that you invent a new sign, that is the take turn sign, that basically states that if traffic is backed up on the side street, treat the intersection as a three way stop and take turns.


The first half also gets into the cost of time and energy...and how it would correlate to the signing on the streets
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Here's a link to it

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In a nutshell, stop signs waste time and gas. Roundabouts optimize time and energy. The problem is at a three way stop, where you have one road comming into a main street. There will be times where the side road will get backed up if there is only one stop sign there. The stop signs on the main thru street seem unnecessary and yield signs are not the proper answer. He proposes that you invent a new sign, that is the take turn sign, that basically states that if traffic is backed up on the side street, treat the intersection as a three way stop and take turns.


The first half also gets into the cost of time and energy...and how it would correlate to the signing on the streets
I like the idea. I also think we can save tax dollars by getting rid of the IRS and just having people agree to mail in their taxes.
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There is a roundabout exiting the local Tigertown parking lot. After a game the dear fans go around two sides merging 6 lanes into 2 (with one lane going the wrong way on a 2 lane 2 way street.) And locall Yield signs are read as "I think I can make it!"
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I hate roundabouts. Especially the ones in DC.
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They were talking about putting roundabouts at some Toledo intersections. There is one a few blocks from the Zoo on Glendale and River Road. It seems to work well. The problem is the cost. There's not enough money to fix roads, much less modify them.
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They have been adding several in West Bloomfield (?) along 14 Mile and Maple. I keep hearing rumors that they are planning on installing a big one at the Orchard Lake/Northwest Highway/14 Mile Rd interchange.

Still not as much fun as the ones in GB, especially when you are trying to decide which direction you want to go.
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Why is this in the political forum? The subject seems rather apolitical.
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Small 'round-abouts' have been showing up in my neighbor hood on some of the side streets. Right now I hate 'em because too many people just don't know how to handle them. They turn left in front of the center area rather than going around. They don't understand that it's Yield and if they get their first they can go, so they stop and wait to see if the other car will stop, and then go (which isn't really that stupid, because the other driver might now know how to handle it either and not yield). Or they just come to a stop even if there is no other traffic.

I suppose if people learn how to use them enough they'll figure it out eventually and it'll be more efficient then but right now they are a big pain.

Another problem with round abouts is size. The big ones for busy roads... the roads where we'll supposedly save millions of dollars in less gas used... take up a LOT more space than intersections... prime real estate usually.

As for the "Take Turns Sign"... yeah, whatever. Billms is right. It'll be as effective as people all agreeing to just mail in their taxes.
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