Palin's account of Exxon Valdez settlement "the most cockamamie ********"

[TheCouga]

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In the book, Palin claims to have helped the fishermen, Alaska Natives and other individuals suing Exxon over spill damages prevail in their legal case.

“It took years for Alaska to achieve victory. As governor, I directed our attorney general to write an amicus brief in the case, and, thanks to Alaska’s able attorneys arguing in front of the highest court in the land, in 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the people,” she writes in her book. “Finally, Alaskans could recover some of their losses.”

But Palin’s claims of victory for the plaintiffs and of playing a role in achieving that victory are highly distorted, said the chief attorney for the approximately 32,000 plaintiffs that sued Exxon over damages from the worst oil-tanker spill in U.S. waters.

“That is the most cockamamie ********,” said Dave Oesting of Anchorage, lead plaintiff attorney in the private litigants’ civil case against Exxon and its successor, Exxon Mobil Corp. “She didn’t have a damn thing to do with it, and she didn’t know what it was about.”

Maybe the AP decided to put 11 reporters on the case because there was so much work to do.

[Mark The Shark]

Originally Posted by TheCouga

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Maybe the AP decided to put 11 reporters on the case because there was so much work to do.

Or maybe plaintiff's attorneys have an axe to grind with a prominent Republican.

[Porcelain God]

Seems like nitpicking to me, the Valdez accident was in 1989. Of course she should be involved if the suit was still going on, but to claim credit for all is a bit overboard.

[billms]

86% of his campaign contributions are to republican causes. And he was working the case *long* before she was governor. Seems more reasonable to think she was grabbing credit for his work and he was pissed, don't you think?

[pfife]

Originally Posted by Mark The Shark

Or maybe plaintiff's attorneys have an axe to grind with a prominent Republican.

yay attorneys.

[TheCouga]

This lady never ceases to amaze me. Just when you thought someone couldn't get any more passive aggressive, she comes out with a new one.

[Oblong]

What is she claiming? Did the attorney general not write an amicus brief while she was governor? I don't see her taking any credit in the quoted text.

[hueytaxi]

Well, she didn't invent the Internet, but I hear she is consulting on Windows 9.

[pfife]

Originally Posted by hueytaxi

Well, she didn't invent the Internet, but I hear she is consulting on Windows 9.

but according to their commercials, who isn't?

[TheCouga]

Originally Posted by Oblong

What is she claiming? Did the attorney general not write an amicus brief while she was governor? I don't see her taking any credit in the quoted text.

The way it's phrased seems intended to cause the casual reader to think that she deserves credit. She states that it's a major victory, and the only person she mentions after noting that victory is herself.

[billms]

but upon reading it again oblong has a point

[ToledoTigerFan]

Originally Posted by hueytaxi

Well, she didn't invent the Internet, but I hear she is consulting on Windows 9.

Originally Posted by pfife

but according to their commercials, who isn't?

LOL! They're liars. It was my idea.

[billms]

Alan Kay! I knew that was you!

[ToledoTigerFan]

And Al Gore stole the Internet idea from me.

[billms]

i thought he got the tubes idea from joe the plumber - not true?

[MrDeeds]

Originally Posted by TheCouga

The way it's phrased seems intended to cause the casual reader to think that she deserves credit. She states that it's a major victory, and the only person she mentions after noting that victory is herself.

thanks to Alaska’s able attorneys arguing in front of the highest court in the land, in 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the people

And how do you stretch her above quote to her calling it a "major" victory?

[billms]

i think it was a major victory - don't you?

[RedRamage]

Originally Posted by TheCouga

The way it's phrased seems intended to cause the casual reader to think that she deserves credit. She states that it's a major victory, and the only person she mentions after noting that victory is herself.

“It took years for Alaska to achieve victory. As governor, I directed our attorney general to write an amicus brief in the case, and, thanks to Alaska’s able attorneys arguing in front of the highest court in the land, in 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the people,” she writes in her book. “Finally, Alaskans could recover some of their losses.”

What do ya mean she mentions no one else? She specifically mentions the state's attorneys and even says that "thanks to [them]." That sounds like she's pretty clearly giving credit to the attorneys.

[MrDeeds]

Journalism has become a joke in this country. It's sad.

[Oblong]

Originally Posted by TheCouga

The way it's phrased seems intended to cause the casual reader to think that she deserves credit. She states that it's a major victory, and the only person she mentions after noting that victory is herself.

She didn't state it was a major victory. She said it was a victory. I did a search for "major" in this thread and the first person to use that word was you.

Was there something else in the book that was left out? She said it took 'years' and gave credit to lawyers, even ones that include Mr. Cockamamie.

Palin Criticism Fail

[pfife]

It seems like she's not trying to claim all that much credit.

[pfife]

Originally Posted by TheCouga

Maybe the AP decided to put 11 reporters on the case because there was so much work to do.

this made me laugh though

[Oblong]

Originally Posted by TheCouga

Maybe the AP decided to put 11 reporters on the case because there was so much work to do.

Based on what I've seen so far they either suck at their work or there's not much there to find.

[TheCouga]

Originally Posted by Oblong

She didn't state it was a major victory. She said it was a victory. I did a search for "major" in this thread and the first person to use that word was you.

Was there something else in the book that was left out? She said it took 'years' and gave credit to lawyers, even ones that include Mr. Cockamamie.

Palin Criticism Fail

It's still worded in a way that makes it seem like her contribution was kind of an essential element in getting the case resolved the way it was. If you knew nothing about the case and read that statement, you would think that Palin played a key role in getting that case settled.

[Melody]

Among the few things I find more ridiculous than Palin herself is the criticism of her. Seriously. Is this the best they can do? It almost makes her seem more legitimate.

[hueytaxi]

Dan Quayle II?

(with gonads)

[DGTigers]

Originally Posted by Porcelain God

Seems like nitpicking to me, the Valdez accident was in 1989. Of course she should be involved if the suit was still going on, but to claim credit for all is a bit overboard.

1989? Barack Obama had never even been in the United States in 1989. I don't even understand why this is an issue.

[Biff Mayhem]

Originally Posted by TheCouga

It's still worded in a way that makes it seem like her contribution was kind of an essential element in getting the case resolved the way it was. If you knew nothing about the case and read that statement, you would think that Palin played a key role in getting that case settled.

Sort of like Al Gore and the Internet?

BTW, I think you're way off base here and that has been reaffirmed by the posters from both sides of the fence. This might be a good time to stop painting yourself into a corner again.

[TheCouga]

Originally Posted by Biff Mayhem

Sort of like Al Gore and the Internet?

BTW, I think you're way off base here and that has been reaffirmed by the posters from both sides of the fence. This might be a good time to stop painting yourself into a corner again.

It's at least as bad as Al Gore and the internet. And you know how much attention that got.

[RedRamage]

Originally Posted by Melody

Among the few things I find more ridiculous than Palin herself is the criticism of her. Seriously. Is this the best they can do? It almost makes her seem more legitimate.

+1

I seriously don't think she's as big of a deal as the opposition seems to want to make her out to be.

[Buddha]

Originally Posted by pfife

It seems like she's not trying to claim all that much credit.

She says it took years to acheive victory, but she directed the state's lawyers to write a brief and they won for the citizens of Alaska.

That sounds to me like she is taking credit for it. It doesn't have to be as obvious as saying "I won the lawsuit" to intimate that she deserves some role for its success.

I can guarantee you that the class-action plaintiff's lawyers in that case did 99.9% of the work to get that case prosecuted, settled, and the money disbursed. The State of Alaska didn't do much.

On the general topic of Palin, much of the nitpicking about her book is silly. Just like much of nitpicking over whatever she did during the campaign was silly. The book and Palin should be criticized for some of the major themes of her career and what she stands for, I find it a little annoying to go back through the book and say "what she said on page 46 about some meeting with a person didn't really happen exactly that way." To me that's what this stuff about the Exxon spill is. So she exaggerated her role in a way? So what? She's not lying.

There are plenty of reasons to slam Sarah Palin (including her delusions of grandeur), but this doesn't seem to be a good one.

[Buddha]

Originally Posted by RedRamage

+1

I seriously don't think she's as big of a deal as the opposition seems to want to make her out to be.

I think the opposition WANTS her to be a bigger deal than she is. The more she is seen to represent the republican party, the better off the democrats are.

[ewsieg]

Originally Posted by Buddha

I think the opposition WANTS her to be a bigger deal than she is. The more she is seen to represent the republican party, the better off the democrats are.

I agree, she's already been quayle'd.

[eastside billee]

I think she has been Quayle'd and I think she's trying her best to be de-Quayled.

I think she sees herself as a possible leader of the Tea-bag crowd. I think she feels the
Republicans didn't defend her or give her the right ammunition. Also I think she feels like
she wasn't handled properly. For all those things, I think she is planning to work for a new
conservative movement that has yet to define itself with a party name.

IMO, she doesn't fit that mold either. I think she's a Republican, pure and simple, but not willing to bend to their "style" of the last 20 years or so.

[billms]

She's got a tough row to hoe - its hard at her age to go from being a know nothing to a know something.

I think you are absolutely right in your analysis of how she seems to feel - cementing in my mind the fact that her nuttiness is apparent to all of us.

[Melody]

Originally Posted by Buddha

I think the opposition WANTS her to be a bigger deal than she is. The more she is seen to represent the republican party, the better off the democrats are.

Yep. I believe that this is exactly the strategy.

That said, she sure seems to have a bunch of very devoted fans if the crowds showing up to her book signings are any measure. I don't get it, to tell the truth.

[screwball]

From Newsmax

Palin-Beck Ticket? Sarah Doesn't Rule it Out
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:36 PM

By: David A. Patten

It's no secret that former GOP vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin and Fox News host Glenn Beck share great respect and admiration — so their fans can be forgiven for wondering: Is a "dream ticket" of Palin-Beck ticket completely out of the question?

Perhaps not.

Palin initially chuckled when Newsmax broached the idea. But then she had some serious words of praise for the popular Fox personality.

"I can envision a couple of different combinations, if ever I were to be in a position to really even seriously consider running for anything in the future, and I'm not there yet," Palin tells Newsmax. "But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He's a hoot. He gets his message across in such a clever way. And he's so bold — I have to respect that. He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective."
***
The conservatives around me would love this, and they like to tea party, so maybe some of those people are the ones showing up at the bookstores.

[eastside billee]

The conservatives around me would love this, and they like to tea party, so maybe some of those people are the ones showing up at the bookstores.

You are probably right about this. However, I'm a conservative and I think it's a horrible idea. I don't see the correct conservative candidate for 2012 showing themself yet.

I hate the idea of Glenn Beck being anything more than a tv show host. However,
IMO I think he'd be a better President than the clown we have now. IMO, the only way he could be worse is if he intentionally tried to, and then he still might not be able to accomplish it.

[MrDeeds]

Originally Posted by screwball

From Newsmax

Palin-Beck Ticket? Sarah Doesn't Rule it Out
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:36 PM

By: David A. Patten

It's no secret that former GOP vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin and Fox News host Glenn Beck share great respect and admiration — so their fans can be forgiven for wondering: Is a "dream ticket" of Palin-Beck ticket completely out of the question?

Perhaps not.

Palin initially chuckled when Newsmax broached the idea. But then she had some serious words of praise for the popular Fox personality.

"I can envision a couple of different combinations, if ever I were to be in a position to really even seriously consider running for anything in the future, and I'm not there yet," Palin tells Newsmax. "But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He's a hoot. He gets his message across in such a clever way. And he's so bold — I have to respect that. He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective."
***
The conservatives around me would love this, and they like to tea party, so maybe some of those people are the ones showing up at the bookstores.

Glenn Beck is not smart. It's amazing what he has done in such a short amount of time, transforming himself from a shock jock FM DJ to a multi-millionaire. But I don't think he has very much intellectually at all. The fact that Sarah Palin is more or else endorsing him causes me to take her even less serious.

[hueytaxi]

Do the liberals on this forum also get to view the ad by the lovely Ms Palin every time they venture into the political area?