Brooks for Governor?

**CMRivdog** · 01-08-2009, 09:32 PM

If nothing else, it should be an interesting race.

http://www.wwj.com/pages/3621962.php?

Southfield (WWJ) -- Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson says he's exploring a run for Governor in 2010. Speaking live on WWJ Thursday morning, Patterson said he'll make the official announcement this weekend, on his 70th birthday.

"It's not a commitment to run, I just wanted to make sure I got out there with the rest of the early candidates so some of my friends won't commit early and I'll lose that support," Patterson told WWJ's Joe Donovan and Pat Vitale.

Patterson said he will do polling and meet with key players and supporters around the state before making a final decision on whether to run.

Patterson says if he were to run and be elected his first moves would be to implement a state hiring freeze and get rid of the new Michigan business tax.

**atomicrod** · 01-08-2009, 10:08 PM

Wonder if the State Police will drive him home as often as the Oakland County Sheriff Department does? This is almost as bad of a choice as Mike Cox. If those two are all the Republicans have they are going to face another difficult election.

**ewsieg** · 01-09-2009, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by atomicrod

Wonder if the State Police will drive him home as often as the Oakland County Sheriff Department does? This is almost as bad of a choice as Mike Cox. If those two are all the Republicans have they are going to face another difficult election.

despite his age, he'd be the front runner.

**Ingefanclub** · 01-09-2009, 07:43 AM

Brooks Patterson was pretty anti Engler. That is my only problem with him. Right now I like Candice Miller and Mike Rogers.

**atomicrod** · 01-09-2009, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by ewsieg

despite his age, he'd be the front runner.

I fully agree. I just think as a Republican, he'd be a very poor choice. He's exactly what we don't need right now.

**DaYooperASBDT** · 01-09-2009, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ingefanclub

Brooks Patterson was pretty anti Engler.

John Engler was as corrupt as they come.

**djhutch** · 01-09-2009, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Ingefanclub

Brooks Patterson was pretty anti Engler. That is my only problem with him. Right now I like Candice Miller and Mike Rogers.

Neither one of them has said they're running though, have they? I know Cox has, & Terri Land is reportedly thinking about it. Mike Rogers would be my top choice, hands down.

**MotownRandy** · 01-09-2009, 09:21 AM

The Democrats are already becoming quite unified behind John Cherry. I think he's the favorite, but it will be interesting to see which Republicants line up to take jabs at Cherry for the "terrible job" Granholm has done.

**Oblong** · 01-09-2009, 09:24 AM

It's the GOP's turn. They just need a credible candidate and Mike Cox is not it.

**MotownRandy** · 01-09-2009, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Oblong

It's the GOP's turn. They just need a credible candidate and Mike Cox is not it.

Sometimes the pendulum doesn't swing as quickly as some would like. You shouldn't assume it's their turn. They haven't earned it.

**ewsieg** · 01-09-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by atomicrod

I fully agree. I just think as a Republican, he'd be a very poor choice. He's exactly what we don't need right now.

Yeah, what do we need, change the law so we can get another 4 years of Granholm?

**Ingefanclub** · 01-09-2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by djhutch

Neither one of them has said they're running though, have they? I know Cox has, & Terri Land is reportedly thinking about it. Mike Rogers would be my top choice, hands down.

I would think Miller and Rogers will have their people meet and decide who should run. They don't want to run against each other. I don't see how they would not run. This is a chance to gain some serious national exposure for a younger Republican. The Senate seat is going to be a much tougher race, whomever wants to take on Stabenow though has a chance to win.

For Governor the Republican will be the favorite whomever they run against on the democrat side I don't think Cherry is a lock based on what Granholm did...I think another democrat will emerge from somewhere and defeat Cheery.

**shabba4detroit** · 01-09-2009, 10:36 AM

John Cherry?? Is that a real person?? Seriously?? This guy is as invisible as Casper.

A run by Brooks would excite the hell out of me. I think he'd be the only guy with cohones enough to make the needed changes in the Motor City government.

**pfife** · 01-09-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by ewsieg

Yeah, what do we need, change the law so we can get another 4 years of Granholm?

don't disrespect Michigan's FDR.

**CMRivdog** · 01-09-2009, 12:17 PM

Don't forget to add Mike Bouchard and Pete Hoekstra along with David Brandon to the possible GOP list.

Patterson may be the best of that bunch.

**djhutch** · 01-09-2009, 05:33 PM

The GOP field is going to get awful crowded before it's all done. The possibilities just off the top of my head:

Cox
Land
Patterson
Bouchard
Hoekstra
Miller
Rogers
Knollenberg
Schuette

**Buddha** · 01-09-2009, 05:51 PM

Given how horrible Michigan's economy is and how the Democrats are in charge, how can the Republicans NOT win?

**Oblong** · 01-09-2009, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Buddha

Given how horrible Michigan's economy is and how the Democrats are in charge, how can the Republicans NOT win?

something like this:

Seriously, I agree. Run a reasonable candidate out there like Miller or Terri Lynn Land and it should be a cakewalk. John Cherry will be Dick Posthumous II.

**atomicrod** · 01-09-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by ewsieg

Yeah, what do we need, change the law so we can get another 4 years of Granholm?

That thought will keep me up tonight.

**monkeynuts** · 01-09-2009, 10:07 PM

If Mike Rogers is the nominee, I will do I can to make sure he does not get elected. The guy is a POS.

I'm not opposed to all Republicans (would definitely hear them out about their economic positions), but would never vote for Rogers.

**DaYooperASBDT** · 01-09-2009, 11:26 PM

The biggest POS in that entire list is Mike Cox, hands down.
I would vote for Pete Hoekstra though, or possibly Candace Miller.

**ewsieg** · 01-10-2009, 12:19 AM

Anyone think McCotter would run? Right now my vote is already set for L. Brooks though.

**zimm** · 01-10-2009, 02:36 AM

as much as i disagree with Brooks on a number of issues, he'd be fantastic at running the business of the state.

i remember a Free Press article a couple years back that followed the state determining after the end of the fiscal year that they had a huge surplus-i believe in excess of $100mm. Brooks called up Jenny and told her that he had a process of accounting (used by Oakland County)which would have helped the state to have been aware of this surplus far earlier (like in the actual year it happened!), far more accurately, all while using less manpower than the state's current methodology.

Jenny, of course, declined his offer to send his budget team to Lansing to put on a seminar.

**Ingefanclub** · 01-10-2009, 09:11 AM

Cox .... womanizer, went along with moving state police building in Lansing
Land ...too moderate
Patterson... 70 years old may be too old, seems to be centrist
Bouchard .... don't know alot about him except he was Oakland Co. sherriff
Hoekstra....a part of the conservative dutch mafia from W. Michigan
Miller ...amazing job as sec. of state
Rogers .... very conservative with some bones thrown to moderates
Knollenberg ... don't know alot about him
Schuette ... conservative but I dont know alot about him

**eastside billee** · 01-10-2009, 09:30 AM

I'll take Miller. Cox is not a good guy. Please, no more losers in government.
This country, state, city, county needs to stop electing people with bad backgrounds. Until that is done, this country will never be what it needs to be.

**djhutch** · 01-10-2009, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by monkeynuts

If Mike Rogers is the nominee, I will do I can to make sure he does not get elected. The guy is a POS.

I'm not opposed to all Republicans (would definitely hear them out about their economic positions), but would never vote for Rogers.

I'm curious. Why do you think this?

**monkeynuts** · 01-10-2009, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by djhutch

I'm curious. Why do you think this?

http://www.oneforthetable.com/oftt/s...ould-be-2.html

This year it was an issue with our voter registration efforts on campus. This was also an issue back when my brother was a member of the UofM Dems back in 2000 or so. He can mask it all he wants - but he was trying to surpress the youth vote because he knows it won't go towards him. Anybody who so obviously tries to screw over any group of voters will never get my vote. It's too bad that the Dems have run freaking Bob Alexander (the dude is just - weird) the last few times against Rogers.

**TWolve** · 01-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Ingefanclub

Schuette ... conservative but I dont know alot about him

Bill Schuette, along with serving in many state offices, is a former congressman from Midland. In 1990 he lost to Carl Levin for the US senate. He won't be running for governor though, but for attorney general.

**mtutiger** · 01-18-2009, 04:06 PM

I won't vote for Candice Miller. The fact that she got censured by Congress for trying to bribe Nick Smith into voting for Bush's Prescription Drug Bill means a lot to me.

I'd probably vote for the rest of the field, though.

**Ingefanclub** · 01-18-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by monkeynuts

http://www.oneforthetable.com/oftt/s...ould-be-2.html

This year it was an issue with our voter registration efforts on campus. This was also an issue back when my brother was a member of the UofM Dems back in 2000 or so. He can mask it all he wants - but he was trying to surpress the youth vote because he knows it won't go towards him. Anybody who so obviously tries to screw over any group of voters will never get my vote. It's too bad that the Dems have run freaking Bob Alexander (the dude is just - weird) the last few times against Rogers.

I voted for the 1st time in 1992 via absentee ballot when I was attending Central Michigan. I am pretty sure students can get an absentee ballot for your home address (drivers liscense) if you contact your local clerk and explain the situation to them but would have to show them your ID when registering to vote. That would take care of the ID check.

**djhutch** · 01-19-2009, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by TWolve

Bill Schuette, along with serving in many state offices, is a former congressman from Midland. In 1990 he lost to Carl Levin for the US senate. He won't be running for governor though, but for attorney general.

I've had a chance to talk to Bill Schuette several times in my job. Interested to know where you heard he's running for A-G.

**Biff Mayhem** · 01-19-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by monkeynuts

http://www.oneforthetable.com/oftt/s...ould-be-2.html

This year it was an issue with our voter registration efforts on campus. This was also an issue back when my brother was a member of the UofM Dems back in 2000 or so. He can mask it all he wants - but he was trying to surpress the youth vote because he knows it won't go towards him. Anybody who so obviously tries to screw over any group of voters will never get my vote. It's too bad that the Dems have run freaking Bob Alexander (the dude is just - weird) the last few times against Rogers.

Yes, I am sure the intent was to keep young kids from voting. Quite certain indeed.

God forbid that a student spend 20 minutes in line at a S.O.S. office to change their address. I mean jeez.......who can be bothered to do that? Really, it's only a law in Michigan that if you move you have to change your address with the S.O.S.. Not to mention that everyone who had their head out of the sand knew there was a forthcoming election and had plenty of time to get it done.

GAWD!! Stupid Republicans suppressing the vote!!!

**Oblong** · 01-19-2009, 09:40 AM

They should put an option on Grand Theft Auto where you can register to vote or change your address. That's the solution.

**MAROTH4MVP** · 01-23-2009, 08:26 PM

I don't care who is governor as long as they get rid of the new Michigan business tax.

**atomicrod** · 01-24-2009, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by mtutiger

I won't vote for Candice Miller. The fact that she got censured by Congress for trying to bribe Nick Smith into voting for Bush's Prescription Drug Bill means a lot to me.

Do you have a link to the actual censure of Miller?

I'll admit this is the first time I've heard this story, so I'm curious to read some of the details. Looking with a quick google search I only find where her name is attached to a sub-committee report which says

will serve as a public admonishment by the committee

in regards to the Nick Smith incident.

**mtutiger** · 01-24-2009, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by atomicrod

Do you have a link to the actual censure of Miller?

I'll admit this is the first time I've heard this story, so I'm curious to read some of the details. Looking with a quick google search I only find where her name is attached to a sub-committee report which says in regards to the Nick Smith incident.

Public admonishment, I believe, is being censured.

**atomicrod** · 01-24-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by mtutiger

Public admonishment, I believe, is being censured.

In the Congressional sense, no they are not. I hate to be a stickler over words and this is pretty much a moot point, but censure by Congress is different than a public admonishment.

I will agree with you that her actions should be seriously considedred if she runs for governor.

**djhutch** · 01-24-2009, 08:52 AM

I don't see Miller as a leader. If we're going for former Sec. of State's, I think Terri Lynn Land has done a better job. I'm warming to the idea of Brooks, though. He certainly has experience on his side, & I think he's battle tested. I guess I'll wait `til I see who is running & what their policy initiatives are. I've still got a little time I guess.

**baseballbruce30** · 01-24-2009, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by djhutch

I don't see Miller as a leader. If we're going for former Sec. of State's, I think Terri Lynn Land has done a better job. I'm warming to the idea of Brooks, though. He certainly has experience on his side, & I think he's battle tested. I guess I'll wait `til I see who is running & what their policy initiatives are. I've still got a little time I guess.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/...g_run_for.html

Terri Lynn Land considering run for governor

by Associated Press ~ Wednesday December 17, 2008, 9:20 AM

LANSING -- Michigan Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land says she'll probably decide by late February whether to run for governor.

The Republican from Byron Center in Kent County has been secretary of state since 2003. She can't run again in 2010 because of term limits.

Land told The Associated Press on Tuesday that she is "definitely thinking about" running for governor in 2010. Democratic incumbent Jennifer Granholm is stepping down after two terms because she also is term-limited.

......

I have heard Land's name quite a few times on various radio talk shows.
Works for me, at the very least she has state wide creds.

**mtutiger** · 01-24-2009, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by atomicrod

In the Congressional sense, no they are not. I hate to be a stickler over words and this is pretty much a moot point, but censure by Congress is different than a public admonishment.

I will agree with you that her actions should be seriously considedred if she runs for governor.

I'm not an expert on Congressional law, so I'll defer to you here.