Game #27: Clippers @ Pistons - 12/17/12

**Deleterious** · 12-17-2012, 10:43 AM

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LA Clippers 17-6 (7-3) @ Detroit 7-19 (5-7)

Live from The Palace of Auburn Hills

Time: 7:30PM ET

TV: FSD

Injury Report

Detroit: None

Clippers: Chauncey Billups - Out (Foot). Eric Bledsoe - Questionable (Bruised Hip). Grant Hill - Out (Knee). Trey Thompkins - Out (Knee).

Team Stats

Team Four Factors | Team Opp
eFG% - 0.522 (5th of 30) | 0.477 (7th of 30)
TOV% - 0.137 (10th of 30) | 0.167 (1st of 30)
ORB% - 0.284 (9th of 30) | 0.289 (26th of 30)
FT/FGA - 0.220 (11th of 30) | 0.232 (26th of 30)

Team Leaders
Win Shares - Chris Paul 4.4
Minutes Per Game - Chris Paul 33.0
Points Per Game - Blake Griffin 18.2
Rebounds Per Game - Blake Griffin 9.0
Assists Per Game - Chris Paul 9.3
Steals Per Game - Chris Paul 2.6
Blocks Per Game - DeAndre Jordan 1.7

Team Four Factors | Team Opp
eFG% - 0.473 (20th of 30) | 0.483 (10th of 30)
TOV% - 0.140 (15th of 30) | 0.123 (28th of 30)
ORB% - 0.275 (13th of 30) | 0.285 (23rd of 30)
FT/FGA - 0.229 (7th of 30) | 0.213 (19th of 30)

Team Leaders
Win Shares - Andre Drummond 1.8
Minutes Per Game - Tayshaun Prince 33.3
Points Per Game - Greg Monroe 15.2
Rebounds Per Game - Greg Monroe 9.1
Assists Per Game - Brandon Knight 4.9
Steals Per Game - Greg Monroe 1.5
Blocks Per Game - Jason Maxiell 1.5

**Deleterious** · 12-17-2012, 10:54 AM

I wonder if Grant Hill is regretting his choice to leave the Phoenix training staff. 4 years in Phoenix he played 70, 82, 81, and 80 games and 49 (66 game season) games.

**DTroppens** · 12-17-2012, 11:17 AM

Between the Lions and the Pistons, it's been a pretty crappy December. How about a nice Christmas run here? Get the wins against Washington and Toronto, possibly Milwaukee and maybe a lucky win against one of these better teams (tonight, Atlanta or Miami).

How about it Pistons? How about a 5-2 holiday run to reward us that continuously pop you on every night (even if it is usually the late-night replay)? Something tells me 2-5 is more likely.

**DTroppens** · 12-17-2012, 11:25 AM

I think I've said this in past years, but the one huge drawback about watching the replay late at night was what happened Friday night. They skipped so much of the game, it became apparent to me that it not only was going to be an overtime game, but it was going to be a double-overtime game, unless some fight broke out, extending the clock stoppage action.

So, when the score was 90-84 with just over a minute left in the fourth quarter, I already "knew" that the Nets were going to come back and tie the game. It was something like 1:12 a.m. and the game was supposed to play until 2 a.m. So knowing I was going to see a decent collapse at the end of regulation was kind of calmed a bit because I knew it was going to happen.

And likewise, it made the first OT pretty boring to watch. I just wanted to see them skip to the second OT because unless there was some sort of fight in the first OT, it was obvious there was going to be a second OT the minute it started.

**Deleterious** · 12-17-2012, 06:23 PM

https://twitter.com/Keith_Langlois/s...12215580389376

LFrank hinted at possibility of tweaks to rotation, maybe as soon as tonight. Also .. Stuckey a game-time decision with back spasms

**DrWho17** · 12-17-2012, 06:34 PM

Just what they need a team that's going to smash them and their best player might not play.

**Hart** · 12-17-2012, 08:05 PM

I actually anxious to watch Bledsoe tonight...I would not mind trying to trade for him if the Clippers re-sign Paul.

**Deleterious** · 12-17-2012, 08:09 PM

You gotta love Daye getting some run, only to foul the 3 point shooter haha.

**DTroppens** · 12-18-2012, 02:02 AM

Well, at least it was an entertaining, spirited effort.
The second-last dunk of the game was pretty nifty.

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 02:29 AM

Someone remind Max its still a contract year.

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 10:21 AM

Pistons are 7-20 with 55 games left. If they play .500 the rest of the year that would be 28 more wins for a total of 35. Not sure how realistic .500 is though.

Although, after 27 games last year the Pistons were 7-20 as well.

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 10:32 AM

The month of December continues to be very bad for Monroe.

He is averaging 12.4 PPG, 8.5 RPG 3.3 APG .5 BPG 1 SPG and 2.9 TO. He is doing so while shooting 64% from the line with a TS% of 45%.

**Euphdude** · 12-18-2012, 10:33 AM

At the rate the pistons are going, they will be a perennial mediocre team that ends up with roughly the eighth to tenth draft pick every year. They really need to seriously tank a season and get a top three draft pick so they can draft a superstar / go to guy that they will never get being merely mediocre.

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Gehringer_2

Won't help. Joe is a wonderful guy, but he is just a horrible, hopeless, very bad, drafter - especially of back court players. Other than TP, the players that won his championship all came by trade and FA, and now that the team is run down and doesn't have trading depth, they are just stuck in a rut.

How dare you forget Darko!

**DaBishop** · 12-18-2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Euphdude

At the rate the pistons are going, they will be a perennial mediocre team that ends up with roughly the eighth to tenth draft pick every year. They really need to seriously tank a season and get a top three draft pick so they can draft a superstar / go to guy that they will never get being merely mediocre.

Not saying you're right or wrong necessarily, but they got that guy with last years draft pick. Had teams known Drummond would be giving the effort he is giving, he'd have been the #2 pick.

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by DaBishop

Not saying you're right or wrong necessarily, but they got that guy with last years draft pick. Had teams known Drummond would be giving the effort he is giving, he'd have been the #2 pick.

Using 27 games of knowledge to do the draft again, he is the #3 pick behind Lillard and Davis. Some might argue Waiters at #3 and Drummond #4. I wouldn't, but I wouldn't complain much if someone did.

**DaBishop** · 12-18-2012, 03:54 PM

REally? I think a 19 year old Drummond gets drafted ahead of a 22 year old Lillar, particularly with the age old wisdom of a dominant big man being more important the a dominant PG.

And who would argue Waiters? Dude's shooting at a sub .400 clip...no chance I'd listen to any argument with Waiters being considered a better choice.

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by DaBishop

REally? I think a 19 year old Drummond gets drafted ahead of a 22 year old Lillar, particularly with the age old wisdom of a dominant big man being more important the a dominant PG.

It isn't even close IMO.

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 03:58 PM

One of the reasons why Lillard gets picked over Drummond. He gives you results today, where you get them from Drummond 3 years from now, maybe a bit longer. A GM that picks Drummond might not be around when he starts producing like a top pick should.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 12-18-2012, 04:35 PM

Also, depending on team needs, a team could well value Lillard over Drummond setting aside the timing of production.

**Buddha** · 12-18-2012, 07:00 PM

Dumars will make up for it next year when he drafts Trey Burke.

BTW, no comment on the ESPN thread about Hall of Famers that leaves both Dumars and Isiah out and ranks Bill Laimbeer as the best Piston? Gotta love stat head NBA guys....

Speaking of which, SOMEBODY HIRED JOHN HOLLINGER?

**DaBishop** · 12-18-2012, 08:00 PM

link?

**Deleterious** · 12-18-2012, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by DaBishop

link?

NBA experts rebuild Springfield's Hall of Fame - ESPN The Magazine - ESPN

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 12-18-2012, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Buddha

Dumars will make up for it next year when he drafts Trey Burke.

BTW, no comment on the ESPN thread about Hall of Famers that leaves both Dumars and Isiah out and ranks Bill Laimbeer as the best Piston? Gotta love stat head NBA guys....

Speaking of which, SOMEBODY HIRED JOHN HOLLINGER?

Otis Thorpe is ahead of both Isiah and Joe as well...