Game #17: Pistons @ Grizzlies - 11/30/12

[Deleterious]

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Detroit 5-11 (1-8) @ Memphis 11-2 (7-1)

Live from FedEx Forum

Time: 8PM EST

TV: FSD

Injury Report

Detroit: None

Memphis: Darrell Arthur - Probable (Sore Knee).

Team Stats



Team Four Factors | Team Opp
eFG% - 0.485 (18th of 30) | 0.472 (6th of 30)
TOV% - 0.133 (7th of 30) | 0.161 (4th of 30)
ORB% - 0.314 (4th of 30) | 0.294 (26th of 30)
FT/FGA - 0.241 (6th of 30) | 0.213 (18th of 30)

Team Leaders
Win Shares - Marc Gasol 2.5
Minutes Per Game - Zach Randolph 36.6
Points Per Game - Rudy Gay 19.2
Rebounds Per Game - Zach Randolph 13.2
Assists Per Game - Mike Conley 6.4
Steals Per Game - Mike Conley 2.2
Blocks Per Game - Marc Gasol 1.2



Team Four Factors | Team Opp
eFG% - 0.487 (15th of 30) | 0.482 (14th of 30)
TOV% - 0.146 (20th of 30) | 0.133 (21st of 30)
ORB% - 0.263 (18th of 30) | 0.289 (25th of 30)
FT/FGA - 0.223 (12th of 30) | 0.238 (25th of 30)

Team Leaders
Win Shares - Greg Monroe 1.3
Minutes Per Game - Greg Monroe 33.4
Points Per Game - Greg Monroe 16.5
Rebounds Per Game - Greg Monroe 9.4
Assists Per Game - Brandon Knight 5.8
Steals Per Game - Greg Monroe 1.7
Blocks Per Game - Andre Drummond 1.2

[Deleterious]

Lionel Hollins is the best coach nobody ever talks about.

[T&P_Fan]

This would be a real nice win, but I don't see the Pistons coming out on top in this one. Would like to see a competitive game though.

[Deleterious]

Current leaders:

Deleterious 15
Buddha 12
Dtroppens 11
Punk42AE 10
T&P Fan 5
Drownwithyou 4
Dabishop 3
Wanker 1

Tonights action:

Detroit +11.5
Total Game Points O/U 190
Total Greg Monroe Assists + Rebounds O/U 14.5
Total Brandon Knight assists O/U 6.5
Total Zach Randolph rebounds O/U 13.5

[PuNk42AE]

Detroit +11.5 Detroit
Total Game Points O/U 190 Over
Total Greg Monroe Assists + Rebounds O/U 14.5 Over
Total Brandon Knight assists O/U 6.5 Under
Total Zach Randolph rebounds O/U 13.5 Over

[Deleterious]

Current leaders:



Tonights action:

Detroit +11.5
Total Game Points O/U 190
Total Greg Monroe Assists + Rebounds O/U 14.5
Total Brandon Knight assists O/U 6.5
Total Zach Randolph rebounds O/U 13.5

Memphis
Over
Under
Under
Over

[T&P_Fan]

Detroit +11.5
Total Game Points O/U 190
Total Greg Monroe Assists + Rebounds O/U 14.5
Total Brandon Knight assists O/U 6.5
Total Zach Randolph rebounds O/U 13.5

DET
Under
Over
Over
Under

[T&P_Fan]

Memphis
Over
Under
Under
Over

Exact opposite, nice!

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Current leaders:



Tonights action:

Detroit +11.5
Total Game Points O/U 190
Total Greg Monroe Assists + Rebounds O/U 14.5
Total Brandon Knight assists O/U 6.5
Total Zach Randolph rebounds O/U 13.5

Time for me to make a fool of myself:

DET
O
O
U
U

[Deleterious]

https://twitter.com/Keith_Langlois/s...77786679726080

Kravtsov active tonight as Grizz play big more than most. Daye under the weather, might be inactive. If not, it'll be English, Middleton

[DTroppens]

https://twitter.com/Keith_Langlois/s...77786679726080

I wonder if the Pistons have the OK from Stern not to play Daye. If he was smart he'd give them the OK never to play Daye.

[DaBishop]

Detroit +11.5 - DET
Total Game Points O/U 190 - Under
Total Greg Monroe Assists + Rebounds O/U 14.5 - Over
Total Brandon Knight assists O/U 6.5 - Under
Total Zach Randolph rebounds O/U 13.5 - Over

[DTroppens]

Detroit +11.5
Over 190
Under Monroe
Under Brandon Knight
Over Zach Randolph

[DaBishop]

Wow...Randolph has a double double in every game but one this season. Nice resurgent season

[DTroppens]

I will be at a girls basketball game tonight, so it's a toss-up if I'm going to just turn the game on where it is when I get home or just watch the replay tonight.

One awesome thing about the Wings not playing is knowing the replay will ALWAYS be the Pistons game. I'm getting kind of spoiled actually.

[DTroppens]

We need to have a clever prop bet like this:

Charlie V: Three-point attempts minus rebounds: -1.0 over/under

[Betrayer]

You may be giving him way more credit than he deserves with that line, DTropp.

[DTroppens]

You may be giving him way more credit than he deserves with that line, DTropp.

+1.5 would make a lot more sense.
I'll take the over.

For that last season or two with Sheed, +6.5 might make sense.

Nothing more meaningless than a 6-10 or taller guy spending the entire game behind the three-point line.

[Deleterious]

The last 90 seconds of that quarter were terrible. I think the Pistons were up 21-15 and finished the quarter down 22-21.

[Deleterious]

Somebody tell CV it isn't his contract year.

[Deleterious]

https://twitter.com/Vincent_Ellis56/...91882641154048

CV with a triple ... then allows offensive rebound and bucket to Arthur. #Grizz up 3.

Yep.

[ScrubBeaterUpper]

Monroe is a jizz rag in post D. As soon as Drummond went out, it was Marc/Marc/Zach. Zero resistance

[DaBishop]

Which is why he shouldn't be in the game without Drummond...They should be playing together.

[ScrubBeaterUpper]

Nice stat line "BK7"

[Gehringer_2]

Pistons could not get the ball inside at all later in the game with Monroe on the bench....

and Stuckey not good at basketball.

[DTroppens]

I found it comical how at half Cleaves talks about how it's good that Stuckey and Knight are aggressive at "getting their own" offense, and then after the half, Kelser talks about how the lack of distribution (I think six assists at the half) will eventually kill this team's chances of winning the game if it doesn't change.

Really poor performance by the two guards. Really poor job by everyone with maintaining possession. Watching the game, it was hard to believe the Pistons were within single-digits late into the contest.

No one had more than four assists in the game. How the heck do you finish an NBA game with no one having more than four assists?

[Deleterious]

I found it comical how at half Cleaves talks about how it's good that Stuckey and Knight are aggressive at "getting their own" offense, and then after the half, Kelser talks about how the lack of distribution (I think six assists at the half) will eventually kill this team's chances of winning the game if it doesn't change.

Really poor performance by the two guards. Really poor job by everyone with maintaining possession. Watching the game, it was hard to believe the Pistons were within single-digits late into the contest.

No one had more than four assists in the game. How the heck do you finish an NBA game with no one having more than four assists?

I was streaming the Memphis feed in the background while doing some work. The Memphis color guy was saying "shot" every time Stuckey touched the ball in the first half, even before he shot it.

[Hart]

I don't know what to feel about Monroe's defense anymore. I would love to see him next to Drummond but Drummond is so raw that I am not sure it will make that much of a difference for this team yet. His 1.3 bpg is solid considering the minutes he gets but when I watch the games, I don't really see him protect the basket or alter shots yet. We need him to grow up fast on defense, if for no other reason than to see how Monroe looks on defense at the 4.

[Gehringer_2]

I don't know what to feel about Monroe's defense anymore..

Funny thing is that the Piston PA isn't half bad so far this season. Now maybe part of that is that teams ease up some when they have a big lead and the Pistons have been behind a lot, to say the least. But this team mostly seems inept at putting the ball in the hoop, although last night in particular it was bad handling that killed them.

[Deleterious]

Last nights results:

Memphis
Under
Under
Under
Under

Deleterious -3
T&P - 2
Dabishop - 2
DTroppens - 2
Punk42AE - 1
Mr Bigglesworth - 1

Season totals:

Deleterious 18
Dtroppens 13
Buddha 12
Punk42AE 11
T&P Fan 7
Dabishop 5
Drownwithyou 4
Wanker 1
Mr Bigglesworth 1

I think what we will do is start using an average instead of totals. That way new people joining can get into it and missing a game or two wont hurt you. You will just have to participate in a certain amount of games to qualify, 80% or something. I don't know.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Last nights results:

Memphis
Under
Under
Under
Under

Deleterious -3
T&P - 2
Dabishop - 2
DTroppens - 2
Punk42AE - 1
Mr Bigglesworth - 1

Season totals:



I think what we will do is start using an average instead of totals. That way new people joining can get into it and missing a game or two wont hurt you. You will just have to participate in a certain amount of games to qualify, 80% or something. I don't know.

Won't help me much either way - I'm not so good at this game!

[DTroppens]

Last nights results:

Memphis
Under
Under
Under
Under

Deleterious -3
T&P - 2
Dabishop - 2
DTroppens - 2
Punk42AE - 1
Mr Bigglesworth - 1

Season totals:



I think what we will do is start using an average instead of totals. That way new people joining can get into it and missing a game or two wont hurt you. You will just have to participate in a certain amount of games to qualify, 80% or something. I don't know.

Just put me at 40% at the end of the season and save yourself the calculations.
I think everyone understands that by showing up you'll get more points. Honestly, I think what you are doing right now is just fine if its easier (plus I'm in second).

[DTroppens]

8-7 Dallas early

[DTroppens]

Kaman already with two blocks, two rebounds and six points.

[DTroppens]

Oops, wrong thread!

[Hart]

This is probably an overreaction to the start of this game but I am so over the Greg Monroe at center experiment. Anytime we face a true center with length, Monroe struggles.

[Hart]

Oops, wrong thread!

me too

[DTroppens]

I think I probably put this thread on the top and you just clicked on it thinking today's game thread would be on top.

I had it open from about an hour ago and just assumed it was the right one. I saw post #35 and that's what gave it away.