Game #7: Pistons @ Rockets - 11/10/12

[Deleterious]

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Detroit 0-5 (0-4) @ Houston 2-3 (0-2)

Live from The Toyota Center

Time: 8PM ET

TV: FSD

Injury Report

Detroit: Corey Maggette - Doubtful (Leg).

Houston: Royce White - Missed Fridays game (Migraine).

Season Series - Houston 1-0

10/31/12 - HOU 105 DET 96 | Game Thread | Box Score | Shot Chart

Team Stats




Team Four Factors - Team | Opp
eFG% - 0.454 (25th of 30) | 0.471 (14th of 30)
TOV% - 0.173 (29th of 30) | 0.132 (25th of 30)
ORB% - 0.329 (3rd of 30) | 0.266 (17th of 30)
FT/FGA - 0.200 (16th of 30) | 0.164 (3rd of 30)

Team Leaders
Win Shares - James Harden 0.8
Minutes Per Game - James Harden 40.8
Points Per Game - James Harden 27.8
Rebounds Per Game - Omer Asik 13.8
Assists Per Game - Jeremy Lin 6.2
Steals Per Game - Jeremy Lin 3.0
Blocks Per Game Omer Asik 1.4



Team Four Factors - Team | Opp
eFG% - 0.461 (23rd of 30) | 0.530 (27th of 30)
TOV% - 0.141 (11th of 30) | 0.149 (13th of 30)
ORB% - 0.262 (17th of 30) | 0.364 (30th of 30)
FT/FGA - 0.226 (9th of 30) | 0.205 (16th of 30)

Team Leaders
Win Shares - Andre Drummond 0.4
Minutes Per Game - Greg Monroe 33.5
Points Per Game - Greg Monroe 15.7
Rebounds Per Game - Greg Monroe 8.8
Assists Per Game - Brandon Knight 6.5
Steals Per Game - Greg Monroe 1.5
Blocks Per Game - Greg Monroe 1.2

[Deleterious]

The prop bets are not posted yet. I will check back in at halftime of the Michigan game, which should be 1:30PMish. If they are not posted then I will just make up my own.

[PuNk42AE]

I think it's time to play "Guess how long the 0'fer goes".

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

I am just thankful Tayshaun was extended. The season would be lost without him.

[Deleterious]

&P_Fan - 3
Dabishop - 0
Drownwithyou - 2
Deleterious - 2

No props posted yet, so making up my own.

Detroit +7.5
Over/Under on total score 194.5
Over/Under on Greg Monroe total points 16.5
Over/Under on Andre Drummond total points 7.5
Over/Under on James Harden total points 25.5

Don't be shy, go ahead and play. Even if you missed the first one you can still get in.

[PuNk42AE]

Detroit +7.5 - Houston -7.5
Over/Under on total score 194.5 - Under
Over/Under on Greg Monroe total points 16.5 - Over
Over/Under on Andre Drummond total points 7.5 - Under
Over/Under on James Harden total points 25.5 - Over

[T&P_Fan]

No props posted yet, so making up my own.

Detroit +7.5
Over/Under on total score 194.5
Over/Under on Greg Monroe total points 16.5
Over/Under on Andre Drummond total points 7.5
Over/Under on James Harden total points 25.5

Don't be shy, go ahead and play. Even if you missed the first one you can still get in.

Detroit
Over
Over
Over
Under

[DaBishop]

Detroit
Over
Over
Over
Over

[drownwithyou]

No props posted yet, so making up my own.

Detroit +7.5
Over/Under on total score 194.5
Over/Under on Greg Monroe total points 16.5
Over/Under on Andre Drummond total points 7.5
Over/Under on James Harden total points 25.5

Don't be shy, go ahead and play. Even if you missed the first one you can still get in.

Detroit
Over
Over
Over
Under

[wanker]

No props posted yet, so making up my own.

Detroit +7.5
Over/Under on total score 194.5
Over/Under on Greg Monroe total points 16.5
Over/Under on Andre Drummond total points 7.5
Over/Under on James Harden total points 25.5

Don't be shy, go ahead and play. Even if you missed the first one you can still get in.

det +7.5
under
over
over
over

[Deleterious]

No props posted yet, so making up my own.

Detroit +7.5
Over/Under on total score 194.5
Over/Under on Greg Monroe total points 16.5
Over/Under on Andre Drummond total points 7.5
Over/Under on James Harden total points 25.5

Don't be shy, go ahead and play. Even if you missed the first one you can still get in.

Houston
Over
Over
Under
Over

[Deleterious]

Kevin McHale will not be coaching tonight. He has taken a leave of absence that they are saying is family related.

Kevin McHale to take immediate leave of absence from Rockets | ProBasketballTalk

[DTroppens]

Houston (I hope I'm wrong, I just think the Pistons will tank in this game)
Over
Over
Over
Under

[DTroppens]

It's funny. I thought these fun prop bets would make the game more fun, but while I remember what players we bet on, I can't recall the numbers. I think I'll just check it at the end of the game and see how it goes.

And I hope I get my first one wrong.

[DaBishop]

I honestly see no reason not to be playing Drummond 30 mpg. His play has justified his draft selection...he's the future of the team and he's been pretty damn good. The more time Drummond, Monroe, Stuckey, Knight and either Singler or Jerebko get together the better this team will be. Playing Maxiell hasn't resulted in any wins so what's the point? He's not part of the future and the future can't come soon enough...get a clue Frank.

[KleShreen]

I honestly think this team might be 0-12 going in to the home game with Toronto on the 23rd.

Wow.

[DTroppens]

I honestly see no reason not to be playing Drummond 30 mpg. His play has justified his draft selection...he's the future of the team and he's been pretty damn good. The more time Drummond, Monroe, Stuckey, Knight and either Singler or Jerebko get together the better this team will be. Playing Maxiell hasn't resulted in any wins so what's the point? He's not part of the future and the future can't come soon enough...get a clue Frank.

I like the thought process of making one "earn" the playing time. That said, I think he's earning the position mighty quick right now. He's certainly going to get some PT now. When you earn the time, I feel it should have more meaning to the player than one just getting it for getting sake.

[DTroppens]

AUGH! I can't take this. I might have to get my basketball fix at Oakland University or Saginaw Valley State this winter.

[DTroppens]

Monroe hasn't scored yet. I forget the over/under but I know this isn't good for me considering I picked the over.

[DTroppens]

A 9-0 run by the Pistons at the end of the half have them within six at the half.

[Euphdude]

I am just thankful Tayshaun was extended. The season would be lost without him.

His veteran leadership is really paying off so far this season...

[T&P_Fan]

Hardens 3 extends the lead to 9 again. Offense is very stagnate.

This is a tough way to open the season.

[Euphdude]

How long can the Pistons continue to lose like this until heads start to roll somewhere?

[Hart]

I know the Pistons are bad but I hope they are not historically bad.

[DTroppens]

The Pistons are clearing the bench - and not for good reasons.

[DTroppens]

Charlie V hardly hit rim on that free throw.
And misses the second. The Pistons still haven't scored this quarter (7:15 left).

[DTroppens]

6:03 left in the fourth the Pistons finally score on a Knight jumper.

[DTroppens]

We have an Austin Daye sighting.

[Euphdude]

An 0-7 start, a serious regression from any improvement last season, and a likely half-empty Palace for the rest of the season. Is there any way Dumars keeps his job?

[Deleterious]

Tonights Totals:

Punk42AE -3
Deleterious - 2
DTroppens - 2
Drownwithyou - 1
T&P_Fan - 1
Wanker - 1
Dabishop - 0

Overall Totals:

T&P_Fan - 4
Deleterious - 4
Drownwithyou - 3
Punk42AE - 3
DTroppens - 2
Wanker - 1
Dabishop - 0

[DTroppens]

I think it's time to play "Guess how long the 0'fer goes".

Two games with Orlando and a game with Toronto are on the horizon. I hope they win one of those three games.

[DrWho17]

An 0-7 start, a serious regression from any improvement last season, and a likely half-empty Palace for the rest of the season. Is there any way Dumars keeps his job?

It's too early to say that, the early schedule has sucked (6 game western swing to start the season, really?). They still have time to recover, but it needs to be soon I guess. Monroe is starting to play better, Frank I think is panicking though a bit from his after game talks. He said the team didn't play hard Friday, if I was a player I would be upset, they did play hard and scrapped yesterday.

[Deleterious]

Just a reminder. The betting game is for weekends only. So the next game we bet on will be this Friday the 16th.

[RJBBREZ]

Pretty disappointing start to the season. I thought they would play/look better than this. Wow.

[KleShreen]

If it goes on much longer...I feel like a guy like Brandon Knight (or Stuckey), could get extremely frustrated and turn this in to a circus. No rhyme or reason for that, but those are the two I see becoming frustrated the easiest. Even Monroe. These younger guys who came from winning programs and are going through a stretch like this in the pros on a team that doesn't seem poised to improve any time soon...blech. Not a good recipe. I think Frank has a chance to lose this team *real* quick. A lot of people might think it's BS, but I think it's pretty easy to see how a team's attitude is just by watching the players/coaches faces and mannerisms during timeouts and interviews. With that said, I've already seen the frustration from Knight, Stuckey, Monroe, Prince and Jonas. I don't think you have to worry about English or Drummond or Singler getting too frustrated and pressing because they're rookies and might have expected some struggles no matter what. But those other guys seem like sometimes they're already fed up.

[RJBBREZ]

If it goes on much longer...I feel like a guy like Brandon Knight (or Stuckey), could get extremely frustrated and turn this in to a circus. No rhyme or reason for that, but those are the two I see becoming frustrated the easiest. Even Monroe. These younger guys who came from winning programs and are going through a stretch like this in the pros on a team that doesn't seem poised to improve any time soon...blech. Not a good recipe. I think Frank has a chance to lose this team *real* quick. A lot of people might think it's BS, but I think it's pretty easy to see how a team's attitude is just by watching the players/coaches faces and mannerisms during timeouts and interviews. With that said, I've already seen the frustration from Knight, Stuckey, Monroe, Prince and Jonas. I don't think you have to worry about English or Drummond or Singler getting too frustrated and pressing because they're rookies and might have expected some struggles no matter what. But those other guys seem like sometimes they're already fed up.

I agree.

I hope they can find a way to trade Prince and or Stuckey, and just let the young guys play and grow together.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

I agree.

I hope they can find a way to trade Prince and or Stuckey, and just let the young guys play and grow together.

Prince has negative trade value. Nobody wants him. You would probably have to give a team Stuckey for free for them to take Tayshaun off of your hands.

[cruzer1]

Prince has negative trade value. Nobody wants him. You would probably have to give a team Stuckey for free for them to take Tayshaun off of your hands.

Might not be a bad idea. They need to blow the whole thing up.

[Euphdude]

Might not be a bad idea. They need to blow the whole thing up.

Dumars wouldn't do this, as be would essentially be admitting that his attempt at rebuilding the team has failed.

[Deleterious]

Pistons' energy level in loss to Rockets befuddles Tayshaun Prince | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com