Lakers fire Mike Brown

**Deleterious** · 11-09-2012, 01:06 PM

Lakers have fired Mike Brown

He is a terrible coach, so not a huge shock.

**Deleterious** · 11-09-2012, 01:15 PM

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/stat...66829564583936

As Lakers ownership has been considering firing of Brown, Mike D'Antoni has been a prominent name discussed as replacement, sources tell Y!

**Vonlenska** · 11-09-2012, 01:29 PM

That would be worse.

**T&P_Fan** · 11-09-2012, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Vonlenska

That would be worse.

No doubt. It was surprising when they hired Brown in the first place, hiring D'Antoni would just be compounding the problem.

Maybe Phil is ready to come back.

**Deleterious** · 11-09-2012, 01:35 PM

Just give the job to Kobe.

**Deleterious** · 11-09-2012, 01:40 PM

I'm shocked that I agree with Vincent Goodwill. He just said the Lakers should look at Nate McMillan.

**Vonlenska** · 11-09-2012, 01:58 PM

I think Larry Brown's name has to be mentioned, right? I mean he's 72 and just started at SMU but it is Larry Brown.

**Vonlenska** · 11-09-2012, 02:03 PM

or how about Jerry Sloan?

**Nastradamus** · 11-09-2012, 02:17 PM

I don't think SLoan or Mcmillan are particularly good fits at this point. Mcmillan is pretty similar to Brown. I like the Dantoni idea, but I always thought he was underrated. THis team should be dominating offensively and I think he can get them there. His Suns actually played solid D when it counted, especially per possession.

Phil is the obvious pick of course. Not sure what his situation is.

Brown was a bad fit, but he's far from a terrible coach. I'd love to hire him for a younger team. The Princeton offense was a bad idea though. I do think he did a good job last year though.

**DetroitCity313** · 11-09-2012, 03:36 PM

You have to believe Kobe pulled some strings behind the scenes. It is really early to make this move considering the roster overhaul the Lakers went through, especially with them being a veteran team that can peak late in the season.

**Deleterious** · 11-09-2012, 04:13 PM

Larry Coon tosses his hat into the ring for the Laker job. They could fire their salary cap guy if they hired him.

https://twitter.com/LarryCoon/status/267011097096241152

I'm not going to tell the Lakers who to hire, I'll just point out that if we win tomorrow, my girl's volleyball team is in the playoffs.

**Deleterious** · 11-09-2012, 05:35 PM

Alan Alda Replacing Phil Jackson At Schwab IMPACT

Did he cancel because he will be coaching? Honestly, I just thought this forum could use more Alan Alda.

**Deleterious** · 11-09-2012, 09:29 PM

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/st...90978505105409

MT @ramonashelburne: Source close to situation says Phil Jackson & D'Antoni are "neck and neck" for Lakers job

No way do I believe that. More like, its Jackson's job if he wants it and maybe we will hire D'Antoni if he doesn't.

**Nastradamus** · 11-10-2012, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by DetroitCity313

You have to believe Kobe pulled some strings behind the scenes. It is really early to make this move considering the roster overhaul the Lakers went through, especially with them being a veteran team that can peak late in the season.

It seems to me like Kobe was his only supporter, but at the same time I fully admit the scenario is plausible. I don't think its early to make the move though. I think its more like now or never. Trying to break in a new coach at the halfway point would be much harder and almost certainly would end their title aspirations for the deal. You pull the trigger now(or soon) or you stick with Brown for the year.

**Deleterious** · 11-10-2012, 04:39 PM

Multiple reports on Twitter that the Lakers met with Jackson today. Pretty sure during the Michigan game today the ticker said he has contacted potential assistants.

**Deleterious** · 11-11-2012, 11:21 AM

Report: Phil Jackson wants Scottie Pippen, Brian Shaw on staff if he returns to coach Lakers | ProBasketballTalk

**Nastradamus** · 11-11-2012, 11:28 AM

That'd be a good staff. I know there are rumors that he'd want Shaw to be kind of a co head coach, taking over when he doesn't make the road trip and things like that.

**Deleterious** · 11-11-2012, 04:08 PM

Source Magic Johnson Wins Turf War With Jim Buss Over Firing Of Brown - RealGM Wiretap

**Deleterious** · 11-11-2012, 05:17 PM

Magic Johnson excited Phil Jackson could return

Magic has done well for himself since leaving basketball. They estimate his net worth at $500M.

Basketball Reference lists his career earning at $18M, although they dont list his first 4-5 years in the league.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 09:27 AM

The Lakers hired D'Antoni.

Sounds like Jackson wanted complete basketball control and to not travel to some road games.

Mike D'Antoni hired as coach of the Lakers - CBSSports.com

**DetroitCity313** · 11-12-2012, 09:36 AM

Don't know about this move. I have never been impressed by D'Antoni. I am sure it will benefit Nash, but I don't know if the defense will be very good.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 09:58 AM

With that team all D'Antoni has to do is manage ego's. He can do that.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 10:11 AM

Phil Jackson's Demands Were Reason Lakers Hired D'Antoni - Business Insider

Here are the rumored demands that came out over the weekend.

A small stake in ownership, according to the LA Times. The terms were not specified.

Complete personnel control. According to Ric Bucher of CSN Bay Area, Jackson wanted executive VP Jim Buss to give up control of basketball operations.

He wanted Brian Shaw and Scottie Pippen on his coaching staff. Shaw is currently an assistant with the Pacers, and is widely considered one of the best assistants in the league. It's unclear what it would have taken to bring him to LA.

He wanted travel restrictions, including allowing assistants to coach games and run shootarounds, according to Marc Spears of Yahoo!. An ESPN report this morning said Phil never intended to skip any more road games than he did in past years, however.

He would have earned a lot more than D'Antoni. ESPN says salary was never discussed, but Jackson may have earned somewhere around $10 million per year, Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! mentioned in a column over the weekend. D'Antoni will make $4 million per year.

**T&P_Fan** · 11-12-2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

With that team all D'Antoni has to do is manage ego's. He can do that.

Didnt do so well in New York managing the egos.

D'Antoni is an awful coach, lucky for him LA has all sorts of talent.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by T&P_Fan

Didnt do so well in New York managing the egos.

D'Antoni is an awful coach, lucky for him LA has all sorts of talent.

That wasn't even close to his problem in NY. His problem in NY was not knowing how to use Melo.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 11:27 AM

Nobody has been a bigger critic of D'Antoni than I have. I'm just saying with the team assembled in LA, it doesn't take a great coach to win.

Lets be honest, that team will do whatever Kobe wants. So if you can keep him happy your chances of winning go up quite a bit. D'Antoni supposedly has a good relationship with Kobe from the Olympics, so I think they will be fine.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 11:37 AM

Here is how D'Antoni's teams have ranked with defense. Bottom 3 are with the Knicks.

24th (Only coached the last 61 games)
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**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 11:45 AM

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/sta...63827788468224

Kobe on Bickerstaff: "He's good. He's getting the f--- out of the way."

Keep Kobe happy, win a bunch of games.

**Nastradamus** · 11-12-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

That wasn't even close to his prblem in NY. His problem in NY was not knowing how to use Melo.

Melo and Stoudemire combined is probably more accurate.

I love D'antoni for this job. I think he is a great fit for this group of players. I think his lack of ability to get teams to defend is a bit of a myth. Phoenix actually wasn't too bad defensively, per possession. NY was a mess. They had a lot of players who didn't fit well together.

and really no matter what you think of the hire, the guy is not a horrible coach or anything close to it.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Nastradamus

Melo and Stoudemire combined is probably more accurate.

I love D'antoni for this job. I think he is a great fit for this group of players. I think his lack of ability to get teams to defend is a bit of a myth. Phoenix actually wasn't too bad defensively, per possession. NY was a mess. They had a lot of players who didn't fit well together.

and really no matter what you think of the hire, the guy is not a horrible coach or anything close to it.

He is a pretty bad coach. Not Mike Brown bad, but still pretty bad.

The fact he tried to use Melo in an up tempo run and gun offense tells you everyone you need to know about him.

**Nastradamus** · 11-12-2012, 12:53 PM

I never agreed with using Melo that way, but the guy has made a ton of guys look really good too. Of course, I don't think Brown is a terrible coach either so I"m not sure where to go with that. D'antoni is probably a top 10 coaching mind in the game right now IMO. Brown admittedly has some work to do with his offensive game planning though. I'd sure love him to be my D coordinator a la Thibodeau in Boston though.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nastradamus

I never agreed with using Melo that way, but the guy has made a ton of guys look really good too. Of course, I don't think Brown is a terrible coach either so I"m not sure where to go with that. D'antoni is probably a top 10 coaching mind in the game right now IMO. Brown admittedly has some work to do with his offensive game planning though. I'd sure love him to be my D coordinator a la Thibodeau in Boston though.

Michael Malone coached the defense in Cleveland.

Lakers coach: New Lakers Coach Mike Brown seeks familiar faces for staff in Los Angeles - Los Angeles Times

Brown and Malone worked together in Cleveland for five years before the Cavaliers fired Brown after the 2009-10 season, and Malone joined the Hornets for the 2010-11 season.

Malone was given the defensive reins in Cleveland. His reputation as a defensive-minded coach continued in New Orleans because he helped the Hornets become the fifth-ranked defensive team in the NBA last season, allowing 94 points per game.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 03:54 PM

The best part about them hiring D'Antoni. Brian Shaw will be available if the Pistons can Frank this summer.

**Deleterious** · 11-12-2012, 09:08 PM

Phil Jackson alleges that the Lakers lied to him in negotiations | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports

**Deleterious** · 11-14-2012, 02:49 PM

https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/s...96093955981313

RT @MagicJohnson: The reason I haven't tweeted in 2 days is because I've been mourning Phil Jackson not being hired as the Lakers head coach

OK Magic, we get it. You aren't happy they hired someone else.

**Deleterious** · 11-15-2012, 10:26 AM

Steve Nash's Leg Fracture - Business Insider

Interesting point.

**T&P_Fan** · 11-15-2012, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

OK Magic, we get it. You aren't happy they hired someone else.

He was all upset yesterday when he was talking on ESPN. Called out Jim Buss for have a personal grudge against Phil.

I am curious to see how it unfolds, but in my mind, D'Antoni is about the worst option if that team. And on top of that he just had knee replacement surgery two weeks ago. Magic is right, it makes no sense and makes the Lakers no better than they were under Brown.