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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    Do you think you can spot the difference between what he did and what LeBron did?

    I'll give you a head start: LeBron wasn't born in Miami.
    There are other differences too.

    Lebron played out his contract and left. If Carmelo demands a trade that is worse.

    Carmelo has had the good fortune of having a better team playing along with him for the majority of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitCity313 View Post
    There are other differences too.

    Lebron played out his contract and left. If Carmelo demands a trade that is worse.

    Carmelo has had the good fortune of having a better team playing along with him for the majority of his career.

    I don't think letting your team know your intentions a year in advance is worse than not calling them at all, making them wait like everybody else, and then banging a hot blonde in public, while they, the 48 year old wife with sagging tits, sits and cries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    So now that Carmelo has basically said he's not going to re-sign in Denver, does that make the Knicks look less like idiots for trading away their entire future for cap space?
    No.
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    RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Magic, Knicks Atop Melo's Wish List

    Magic, Knicks Atop Melo's Wish List

    According to a source familiar with his strategy, Carmelo Anthony would accept a trade to multiple teams and the Magic and Knicks are at the top of his wish list.

    Anthony's plan to leave Denver this off-season went into motion last week while Anthony was in New York for a Nike event.

    According to the source, the Nuggets were advised to begin exploring trades for Anthony since he plans to leave the team as a free agent next summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleterious View Post
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitCity313 View Post
    There are other differences too.

    Lebron played out his contract and left. If Carmelo demands a trade that is worse.

    Carmelo has had the good fortune of having a better team playing along with him for the majority of his career.
    LeBron completely ****ed cleveland, and made a national television show about it. Carmelo is telling them well in advance and is returning home (and the home of his new wife).

    I'd rather have him stay in denver, but this isn't really the same thing as LeBron leaving to "take his talents to south beach."

    if Lebron would have signed with a real agent, none of that would ever have happened. But he's being led around by the nose by Maverick Carter, and he just keeps making one mistake after the next. But he's too sheltered/stupid to realize it.

    Has there ever been a guy who went from the most popular athlete in the country to the least popular in the span of 30 minutes? And because he still goes to the "club" and people there still jock him, LeBron thinks nothing of it. Unbelieveable. Actually it's not given the sheltered state of super-athletes.
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    Kobe went from popular to despised than back to popular in a span of five years. And for much worse reasons. LeBron could recover especially if he wins
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    Why?
    The reason to clear all that space was to get James and they failed. That caused them to panic and overpay for Stoudemire. Now they are scrambling trying to trade for Melo before the NBA drops the hammer on free agency next summer in the new CBA. If that does happen, a team like the Knicks with a lot of cap space will suffer the most.

    When you sacrifice the past two years and a good deal of your future, you better make a huge splash like the Heat did. The Knicks arent in horrible shape. But a lot of things need to fall perfectly into place in the next 2 years for me to consider what they did a success.
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    I'm not going to get into whether or not the Knicks failed, but if they end up swinging something to bring Carmelo in as well, I wouldn't look at them as a team who failed.

    Option one, was get LeBron....obviously didn't happen. But honestly, I would probably prefer Amare & Carmelo to just LeBron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleterious View Post
    The reason to clear all that space was to get James and they failed. That caused them to panic and overpay for Stoudemire. Now they are scrambling trying to trade for Melo before the NBA drops the hammer on free agency next summer in the new CBA. If that does happen, a team like the Knicks with a lot of cap space will suffer the most.

    When you sacrifice the past two years and a good deal of your future, you better make a huge splash like the Heat did. The Knicks arent in horrible shape. But a lot of things need to fall perfectly into place in the next 2 years for me to consider what they did a success.
    If they get carmelo, do you think it was worth it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaTigers View Post
    Kobe went from popular to despised than back to popular in a span of five years. And for much worse reasons. LeBron could recover especially if he wins
    The bandwagon fans will always support him.

    Which is why he'll fit right in down there in Miami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    If they get carmelo, do you think it was worth it?
    They at least need to be in the conference finals with a legit shot at winning it all for me to call it a success. That needs to happen in the next 2-3 years or its a failure IMO. I think just adding Carmelo isn't enough to do it with that current roster. Especially if they have to give up Gallinari to get him.

    I don't think that is asking a lot when you basically gave up on the past 2 years. Then traded away the next 4-6 years of your future by moving every future draft pick the league will legally allow to be traded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    The bandwagon fans will always support him.

    Which is why he'll fit right in down there in Miami.
    Man, do you know how bitter you sound? You gotta let it go.
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    RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Sources: Melo Also Interested In Rockets, Nets

    Sources: Melo Also Interested In Rockets, Nets

    If the Rockets or Nets can present an offer that is agreeable to the Nuggets, Carmelo Anthony is open to being traded to, and signing a long-term extension with, one of these two clubs.

    The story was reported by Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated, citing multiple league sources familiar with the situation.

    The Knicks are believed to be Anthony's top choice.
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    Kwame Brown to rejoin Michael Jordan with Charlotte Bobcats - ESPN

    Kwame Brown, Bobcats agree to deal

    To the surprise of countless NBA observers, Kwame Brown and Michael Jordan are together again.

    A reunion that no one in the league expected after their well-chronicled difficulties in Washington will be taking place in Charlotte this season after Brown struck a one-year deal at the veteran minimum with the Jordan-owned Bobcats.
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    Can the Denver Nuggets trade J.R. Smith even if they want to? | All Things Nuggets

    Meanwhile, if the Nuggets cannot convince Carmelo Anthony to sign an extension with the team and they decide to trade him at some point, could it be to the Los Angeles Clippers? Im hearing it could be a possibility. It would get both he and his wife, La La, out to where entertainment opportunities are plentiful, which is key factor in their decision to want to move on. The Nuggets might be able to get a good young player or two or draft picks, and Anthony would be able to play on a team with some good up-and-coming talent.
    I cant imagine a big time player like Anthony playing for Donald Sterling.
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    Chinese company Li-Ning signs Sixers' Evan Turner to endorsement deal | Philadelphia Daily News | 08/24/2010

    China's top athletic footwear brand is banking on Evan Turner being a star with the 76ers.

    Li-Ning announced yesterday that it had signed the No. 2 overall pick to a multiyear contract. Turner will begin appearing immediately in the company's global marketing and will wear Li-Ning as a rookie. He will have his own branded sneaker and apparel in the second year of the deal.
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    Kroenke's son tries to woo Anthony - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

    Anthony has hesitated to sign a three-year, $65 million extension and expressed intrigue with opting out of his contract next summer to become a free agent. Despite significant speculation the New York Knicks are the team that Anthony would most likely want to join, two sources close to him insisted the Knicks have been overstated as an object of his desire. Privately, Anthony has expressed more enthusiasm over joining the Houston Rockets than the Knicks, sources said.
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    Always a big debate when up 3 at the end of the game if you should foul or not. This guy did a study to see which strategy was the right one.

    Up Three, Time Running Out, Do We Foul? The First Comprehensive CBB Analysis Harvard Sports Analysis Collective

    Its based on college games, but oh well. He basically found neither strategy had a statistical advantage.
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    Police: J.R. Smith Involved in Altercation at Nuggets Practice Facility -- NBA FanHouse

    Police: J.R. Smith Involved in Altercation at Nuggets Practice Facility

    Denver Nuggets shooting guard J.R. Smith was involved in an altercation at the team's practice facility on Aug. 13, when police arrived after a player not associated with the Nuggets claimed to have been attacked by the mercurial 24-year-old.

    After numerous sources told FanHouse of the incident, the Denver Police Department confirmed it on Wednesday afternoon.

    "We did have a report of an altercation that took place at the Denver Nuggets' practice facility," Detective John White of the Denver Police Department told FanHouse by phone. "That case was investigated and ultimately presented to the district attorney's office. ... Ultimately, the district attorney's office, after being presented with the findings by the Denver Police Department, decided not to pursue charges.
    "They were just wanting the guy to be physical with J.R., telling the other guys, 'Hey, body up on the guys and really make them work,'" the source said. "J.R. just lost it. He tried to choke the kid, and the kid called the cops."
    They dont mean a kid like a child. Supposedly it was someone from the D-League.
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    Report: Carmelo Anthony told Denver owner face-to-face to trade him, team trying - ProBasketballTalk - Basketball - NBC Sports

    Report: Carmelo Anthony told Denver owner face-to-face to trade him, team trying

    Not sure that was the exact welcoming package for the new Denver Nuggets general manager, but a new report says it may not be far off. And apparently the Nets and Clippers are the frontrunners to be the new team for 'Melo.

    Anthony cannot publicly request a trade unless he wants to pay some very steep fines, so everything is handled through back channels. According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo, the master of back channels -- William Wesley -- told the Nuggets in no uncertain terms they needed to move the superstar in an extend-and-trade deal. That Anthony was not going to sign the three-year, $65 million extension in front of him.
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    Report: Jamal Crawford to demand extension or trade from Hawks - ProBasketballTalk - Basketball - NBC Sports

    Report: Jamal Crawford to demand extension or trade from Hawks

    Jamal Crawford has his best year in the NBA last season -- scoring 18 poins a game he won the Sixth Man of the Year award, which was fueled by an improved shooting percentage as he was a little more selective with his shots (fewer long twos than with the Knicks). His game matured.

    Now he wants to be compensated for it. Or go somewhere he will be.

    He wants a contract extension -- he is entering the last year of his deal, paying him $10 million-- or he will asked to be traded, someone close to Crawford told Fanhouse's Sam Amick.

    Crawford's scoring punch off the bench was key to the Hawks jumping to 53 wins last season. The Hawks will bring the same players back -- they spent money on Joe Johnson giving him a max contract -- but are counting on new coach Larry Drew to take the Hawks farther.

    Crawford wants some security long term, and the fact he would be a free agent just as there is a new Collective Bargaining Agreement might have something to do with it as well.

    If Hawks GM Rick Sund decides to move him, an expiring contract who could give a team points in the short term will have a lot of interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    LeBron completely ****ed cleveland, and made a national television show about it. Carmelo is telling them well in advance and is returning home (and the home of his new wife).

    I'd rather have him stay in denver, but this isn't really the same thing as LeBron leaving to "take his talents to south beach."

    if Lebron would have signed with a real agent, none of that would ever have happened. But he's being led around by the nose by Maverick Carter, and he just keeps making one mistake after the next. But he's too sheltered/stupid to realize it.

    Has there ever been a guy who went from the most popular athlete in the country to the least popular in the span of 30 minutes? And because he still goes to the "club" and people there still jock him, LeBron thinks nothing of it. Unbelieveable. Actually it's not given the sheltered state of super-athletes.
    And what if he forces a trade to Houston, where he has no connections? Melo with completely **ck Denver who also built their franchise around him and actually gave him better talent to work with. They pulled the trigger on big name guys, re-signed their core, made risky moves..they did it all for him. Seems like he is quitting on his roster just like Lebron did.

    Melo is running around with World Wide Wes and talking with CP3 the same way Lebron talked to Wade. This is the new NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitCity313 View Post
    And what if he forces a trade to Houston, where he has no connections? Melo with completely **ck Denver who also built their franchise around him and actually gave him better talent to work with. They pulled the trigger on big name guys, re-signed their core, made risky moves..they did it all for him. Seems like he is quitting on his roster just like Lebron did.

    Melo is running around with World Wide Wes and talking with CP3 the same way Lebron talked to Wade. This is the new NBA.
    Then he's a *****. Not up to the level of LeBron, but still a *****.

    Unless he goes to NYC because that's where he's from and that's where his wife lives. But if he went to Houston? That's bush league.

    If he goes to NYC to "play with amare and CP3 and win a championship," then he's no better than LeBron.
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    How about Rip for Crawford? Would never happen, but still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    How about Rip for Crawford? Would never happen, but still...
    Be better to just extend Crawford.
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    RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Nuggets Want To Deal Carmelo To Nets, Kings Or Wolves

    Nuggets Want To Deal Carmelo To Nets, Kings Or Wolves

    Sam Amico of NBA.com is reporting that the Nuggets are looking at three teams as destinations for All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony -- the Nets, Kings and Timberwolves.

    "Early word around NBA is Nuggets will try to trade Carmelo to 1 of 3 teams: Wolves, Kings, Nets. In other words, careful what you wish for," Amico wrote on his Twitter page.

    The New York Post reported on Saturday morning that the Nets are a "legit" suitor for Anthony.

    An NBA executive was quoted as saying that New Jersey as the right pieces to acquire the forward.
    Like Minnesota would give up anything for a guy who wont sign with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleterious View Post
    RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Nuggets Want To Deal Carmelo To Nets, Kings Or Wolves



    Like Minnesota would give up anything for a guy who wont sign with them.
    The Nets are the only one he MIGHT re-sign with. And that's a big if.

    Nobody wants to play for the Nets.

    I wonder if that Russian billionaire knew what he was getting into when he bought that team? This isn't international soccer. You can't just buy a new team every year. Just because you have the most money doesn't mean you have the best team in the NBA (or any American sport other than baseball).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleterious View Post
    Be better to just extend Crawford.
    And the last thing the Pistons need is another SF/SG who just gets points for himself. We already have 10 of those....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha View Post
    And the last thing the Pistons need is another SF/SG who just gets points for himself. We already have 10 of those....
    You are looking at it wrong. I would do the trade if available. Not to keep Crawford, but to flip him at the deadline. He will be easier to move since he is expiring and a better player than Rip. But like I said, Atlanta would just extend Crawford instead of taking on Rip.

    Unfortunately, this muddies up the waters a bit for the Pistons. A more talented SG on the market restricts their ability to move Rip even more.
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    RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Nets Unwilling To Offer Lopez For Melo, As Denver Hears Trade Offers

    Nets Unwilling To Offer Lopez For Melo, As Denver Hears Trade Offers


    According to one report, the Nets are not willing to include Brook Lopez in an attempt to trade for Carmelo Anthony. But New Jersey's offer of Devin Harris, Derek Favors and draft picks may still give the Nuggets the best pieces in return for Anthony.

    No mention is made of whether Anthony would agree to sign an extension with the Nets or the other interested teams as part of a trade out of Denver. Anthony's long-term commitment figures to be a prerequisite before teams offer the Nuggets quality assets in a deal.

    The Nuggets have had discussions with the Bulls that center around Luol Deng and Taj Gibson.

    The Warriors may offer Stephen Curry, Andris Biedrins and draft picks but are not sure that they will make Curry available.

    The Clippers are called a long shot with Chris Kaman and Eric Gordon the likely two targets whom Denver would look to acquire.
    Harris, Favors and picks seems like a pretty good offer to me. Obviously NJ would void the trade if Anthony wont sign an extension with them.
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