Homeless man body found frozen in ice in Detroit.....

**slim pickens** · 01-29-2009, 02:08 PM

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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...RO08/901290400

**shabba4detroit** · 01-29-2009, 02:11 PM

Fantastic.

I think this is the first step towards the News becoming a tabloid style paper like the NYPost or the Toronto Sun. Good for them.

**thewave84** · 01-29-2009, 02:13 PM

Another building owned and neglected by Matty Moroun. He is like a one-man army in the quest for Detroit urban decay.

**WMUDan** · 01-29-2009, 02:20 PM

Only in the D.

Charlie LeDuff is going to be bigger than Bill Bonds when it's all said and done.

**Greenwit** · 01-29-2009, 02:38 PM

Can't see anything except a couple of feet. Those stomach fat ads on that page are worse to look at.

**Oblong** · 01-29-2009, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by thewave84

Another building owned and neglected by Matty Moroun. He is like a one-man army in the quest for Detroit urban decay.

I read the article about him in the free press last month. They said his worth is anywhere from 5 to 60 billion????

**Motor City Sonics** · 01-29-2009, 02:43 PM

Wow, that picture, my caption would have been.

"Uwe Krupp actually takes the ice in Detroit"

**slim pickens** · 01-29-2009, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Motor City Sonics

Wow, that picture, my caption would have been.

"Uwe Krupp actually takes the ice in Detroit"

LOL!!!!!!! very nice!

I am glad this story made headlines, seeing that numerous phone calls, and days went by before anyone even came to check into it.

**Motor City Sonics** · 01-29-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by slim pickens

LOL!!!!!!! very nice!

I am glad this story made headlines, seeing that numerous phone calls, and days went by before anyone even came to check into it.

I don't know what it's like where you live, but if I let my grass grow too long, my city comes knocking to let me know they will fine me. This billionaire has probably hundreds of abandoned eyesores, which only serve as protection for ciminals and targets for arsonists, and I wonder if he ever even gets a warning. Hey, you own it - you tear it down (the buildings were probably in ruins when he bought them, so he should assume the responsibility for what he buys).

**slim pickens** · 01-29-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Motor City Sonics

I don't know what it's like where you live, but if I let my grass grow too long, my city comes knocking to let me know they will fine me. This billionaire has probably hundreds of abandoned eyesores, which only serve as protection for ciminals and targets for arsonists, and I wonder if he ever even gets a warning. Hey, you own it - you tear it down (the buildings were probably in ruins when he bought them, so he should assume the responsibility for what he buys).

I understand all of that, and I agree with you. But I justdidnt like the fact that reports of a dead body, took days for anyone to even come see.

**RedRamage** · 01-29-2009, 03:03 PM

It's so terrible... look that, people just ignoring this body... oh how tragic!! Oh, hey, I think I can write up a pretty good story on this. Cool!

**DTroppens** · 01-29-2009, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by RedRamage

It's so terrible... look that, people just ignoring this body... oh how tragic!! Oh, hey, I think I can write up a pretty good story on this. Cool!

That could be the case and if it is then that's sad. But it still is a pretty pathetic story that really symbolizes a lot of what is wrong with the city.

**smr-nj** · 01-29-2009, 03:29 PM

There were a lot of very cold comments in that story..... and they had nothing to do with the weather.

Hey, Rob - was that place any where near my hotel was (first visit)? I think that guy might have been the doorman.

**Motor City Sonics** · 01-29-2009, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by RedRamage

It's so terrible... look that, people just ignoring this body... oh how tragic!! Oh, hey, I think I can write up a pretty good story on this. Cool!

Would it have been better for him to ignore it?

**snoogit** · 01-29-2009, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Oblong

I read the article about him in the free press last month. They said his worth is anywhere from 5 to 60 billion????

60 bil would put him north of Bill Gates.

**MelissaG915** · 01-29-2009, 04:13 PM

Lots of commentary in that story where I could almost see the reporter smirking while chastising the lot of us.

Frozen bodies aren't the sole claim of Detroit. There was a 37 year old found frozen in her driveway, an old man here in GR frozen under his car, and another man frozen in his house since the heating company shut off his power.

**rhino** · 01-29-2009, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Motor City Sonics

Would it have been better for him to ignore it?

Maybe not ignore it, but I think the better question is, is this a front page story and was the picture that was chosen to be on the front page used just to sell papers?

There is a middle ground between ignoring the story and sensationalizing it, that's where this story belongs.

**Oblong** · 01-29-2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by snoogit

60 bil would put him north of Bill Gates.

Yep. He's a very private guy. He's trying to build a second span for the Ambassador Bridge and is fighting the governments of the US and Canada bdcause they want to build a public bridge.

**Deadshot** · 01-29-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by MelissaG915

Lots of commentary in that story where I could almost see the reporter smirking while chastising the lot of us.

While at the same time assuming that the individual was either drunk or stealing. Perhaps he was just cold.

**markmeista** · 01-29-2009, 04:52 PM

How many of us venture through old school book depositories on Detroit's west side?

I'm sorry that this happened to the guy. It's a horrible, tragic, unfortunate thing to have happened. But it's not like we have access to this area. This didn't happen off of US-12 or the Lodge. It happened in the elevator shaft of an abandoned building. So if the writer is lecturing us, then he can buzz off. How did he know to go in the building, anyway?

And had I been playing hockey in that building - then yes, I probably would have made the call. Trespassing or not, it's the right thing to do. There's anonymous tip lines for those sort of things. Others didn't make the call. It's as simple as that. It certainly isn't front page news. If it were to happen in New York, I bet it doesn't even make a mention in the Times and would be buried in the Post.

**RedRamage** · 01-29-2009, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Motor City Sonics

Would it have been better for him to ignore it?

It would've been better to report the story without all the commentary and implied guilt on the rest of the city. I also think "this reporter" is more commentator than reporter in his story.

He made sure to let us know that he personally investigated the matter and he personally called the police and he personally followed up on the story and he personally met the fire dept. and he personally did something while everyone else did nothing. Shame... shame on you all.

**eastside billee** · 01-29-2009, 06:36 PM

One of the hockey players' friends called the reporter.

The clown that owns this building also owns the Train Station and the Ambassador Bridge.

My son is one of the so-called Urban Explorers. He does it to take pictures only. There is nothing in that building worth having! I've been there, I know.
The 3rd floors is nothing but old, moldy school supplies - books, pencils, coloring books, crayons, scissors, even Biology supplies. I saw broken glass Biology items, plus tons of empty pill holders - the entire floor is covered with all this stuff. There are tons and tons of shelves where all this stuff used to be. I saw this elevator shaft when i was there....believe me - It's quite scary. Trust me when I say -- I have no idea how anyone could be in there.
The fall is treacherous to say the least. The top floor - the roof is wasted - there's even a tree growing out of the moldy school supplies thru the roof!!
It stinks on the 3rd and top floors. The bottom 2 floors are virtually empty.
The very few things that are laying around are virtually worthless.

The problem is - if the homeless guys who live there were to call the police, they lose their home. These people have NOWHERE else to go. They have no transportation, no money, no ambition, no nothing. I don't blame them for not calling.

I do question why this man was found dead in the elevator shaft! Something
just sounds a bit shady to me.

If you want to see some of my son's pics down there, you can start here.
http://flickr.com/photos/jessespeelman/2322026423/
http://flickr.com/photos/jessespeelman/2322843116/
http://flickr.com/photos/jessespeelman/2322842856/
http://flickr.com/photos/jessespeelman/2322842656/
http://flickr.com/photos/jessespeelman/2322025679/
http://flickr.com/photos/jessespeelman/2322842296/

He also goes to the Train Station frequently...

**Oblong** · 01-29-2009, 08:38 PM

I like how the reporter asked the homeless guy if he called the police. With what? His Blackberry?

**Anthony** · 01-29-2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Oblong

I like how the reporter asked the homeless guy if he called the police. With what? His Blackberry?

i phone dude, everyone has one.

**Anthony** · 01-29-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by rhino

Maybe not ignore it, but I think the better question is, is this a front page story and was the picture that was chosen to be on the front page used just to sell papers?

There is a middle ground between ignoring the story and sensationalizing it, that's where this story belongs.

well, it worked. My store sold out of about 40 papers before 9am. That didnt happen when Obama got elected