2011-2012 Michigan State Basketball Thread

**SpartanValor** · 03-07-2012, 07:08 PM

JV, that would hurt more if we had the BCS. Itll work itself out. I look forward to the tourney (the ncaa version)

**JayVee** · 03-08-2012, 10:40 AM

Well yes, of course... But I'm just a little ticked off about the two losses and the whole Dawson thing... A good run to the finals of the BTT sure would help my mood a bit.

jz · 03-11-2012, 04:14 PM

Wow, Izzo is pissed.

jz · 03-11-2012, 04:54 PM

Wow, this game just went to amazing during this sequence of back and forth in the second half.

jz · 03-11-2012, 05:29 PM

Nice Win Sparty. Now don't waste that #1 seed.

**Bubba** · 03-11-2012, 05:31 PM

Brandon Wood just got his MSU legacy moment. Let's build off it boys!

**drownwithyou** · 03-11-2012, 05:33 PM

GREAT WIN!

**lionstigersand...** · 03-11-2012, 05:48 PM

Day Day...After a really meh game...ONIONS!!! late!

**LineCrosser** · 03-11-2012, 06:24 PM

Am I crazy in thinking that's a pretty good bracket for us? Missouri will be tough, but I'm not sure anyone else should really challenge us...

**monkeynuts** · 03-11-2012, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by LineCrosser

Am I crazy in thinking that's a pretty good bracket for us? Missouri will be tough, but I'm not sure anyone else should really challenge us...

Bracket does seem pretty good...but you never know what the hell will happen.

Nonetheless, feels awfully good to be a Spartan right now.

**SpartanValor** · 03-12-2012, 08:04 AM

Ok, so back in October, who had this team pegged for dual big ten championships and a #1 seed? Lol unbelievable season, i still dont believe we're this good.

**JayVee** · 03-12-2012, 08:49 AM

I think there's some delusional Memphis fans out there who think they can actually run with the Big Ten...

**SpartanValor** · 03-12-2012, 11:11 AM

Haha where the hell did you find memphis fans JV? Im looking for a taste of revenge for that derek rose team that absolutely destroyed us.

**JayVee** · 03-12-2012, 12:10 PM

eh, ESPN message boards... I couldn't sleep last night.

**Shelton** · 03-12-2012, 01:43 PM

Msu *should* advance to the sweet 16, but I have to imagine fans would have preferred pretty much every other 8/9 feeder. Memphis is top 10 in kenpom, and st louis is top 20.

Getting to the sweet 16 for sparty will be tough relative to what most one seeds have had in the past, but if they get there, getting to the elite eight shouldn't be a problem.

**MSUBrian11** · 03-12-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Shelton

Msu *should* advance to the sweet 16, but I have to imagine fans would have preferred pretty much every other 8/9 feeder. Memphis is top 10 in kenpom, and st louis is top 20.

Getting to the sweet 16 for sparty will be tough relative to what most one seeds have had in the past, but if they get there, getting to the elite eight shouldn't be a problem.

Who ****ing cares about KenPom. He had Wisconsin ranked number 1, until ****ing February. And to answer your question, no this is not the toughest 8/9 region. UCONN is better than Memphis in the South, and Kansas State is in the East.

No Spartan fan is going to be scared because of a KenPom rating, that's just nonsense. Izzo owns any coach on 1 day of rest in the tourney, and I have no doubt in my mind that he's not scared of the kid that coaches Memphis

**SpartanValor** · 03-12-2012, 05:13 PM

Yeah, Izzo is gonna make Pastner look downright silly on a one day turnaround (and i'm not sure they get by Rick Majerus anyway).

Rick Majerus provided one of the best Izzo quotes of all time. Majerus was on ESPN saying Maurice Ager wasn't athletic, and Izzo responded: "Ager is so athletic, he could jump over Rick Majerus when he's laying down on the beach". Priceless.

**monkeynuts** · 03-12-2012, 06:28 PM

I have no idea what this means, but I'm confident this Izzo quote from Friday is high up there...

Izzo, on Trice still learning to slow down at times: "He's like a fart in a skillet."

Spartans 92, Hawkeyes 75: Notes, quotes from Friday night's win | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

**Shelton** · 03-12-2012, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by MSUBrian11

Who ****ing cares about KenPom. He had Wisconsin ranked number 1, until ****ing February. And to answer your question, no this is not the toughest 8/9 region. UCONN is better than Memphis in the South, and Kansas State is in the East.

No Spartan fan is going to be scared because of a KenPom rating, that's just nonsense. Izzo owns any coach on 1 day of rest in the tourney, and I have no doubt in my mind that he's not scared of the kid that coaches Memphis

I was only trying to say is that I think Memphis is better than both Louisville and New Mexico, and that kind of sucks to have to a face a team like that in the second round if you are a 1 seed.

Msu is still the better team and should win each of their games until the final four. It just might be a tougher road than expected.

As for the other 8/9 teams, you are free to disagree. Of the eight teams that qualify as an 8 or 9, I think Memphis and St Louis are the two best.

Memphis (by far the best)

Stl
Kansas state

Alabama
Creighton
Iowa state
Uconn

Southern miss (by far the worst)

**lionstigersand...** · 03-12-2012, 06:43 PM

I agree that MSU got the toughest 8/9 draw, and I'm not sure it's particularly close.

That said, I also would probably concur with those that assert we received, arguably, the softest 3-7.

That Memphis/St Louis game is going to be an amazing clash in styles. Is there any time of the year better than that first weekend (Thursday - Sunday) of the tournament!!!

**SpartanValor** · 03-19-2012, 02:25 PM

Matt Costello-Mr. Basketball, fellow MSU signee Denzel Valentine finishes second in voting.

Gary Harris probably better than both.

**alwaysthrowheat** · 03-19-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by MSUBrian11

Who ****ing cares about KenPom. He had Wisconsin ranked number 1, until ****ing February. And to answer your question, no this is not the toughest 8/9 region. UCONN is better than Memphis in the South, and Kansas State is in the East.

No Spartan fan is going to be scared because of a KenPom rating, that's just nonsense. Izzo owns any coach on 1 day of rest in the tourney, and I have no doubt in my mind that he's not scared of the kid that coaches Memphis

9 of the Top 12 teams in kenpom ratings are in the Sweet 16, and 12 of the Top 19. Lowest rated Sweet 16 team, Ohio at No. 63. His ratings aren't the bible by any means, but he does a decent job.

**monkeynuts** · 03-19-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by SpartanValor

Matt Costello-Mr. Basketball, fellow MSU signee Denzel Valentine finishes second in voting.

Gary Harris probably better than both.

As excited as I am to see Harris, I think I'm actually more excited to see Costello. With the way our bigs have developed this year - and really propelled this team - it has instilled how important it is to have quality bigs.

**JayVee** · 03-19-2012, 07:37 PM

During the second half of the MSU-OSU title game in Indy, I worked my way down to the lower bowl, and ended up sitting directly in front of Gary Harris. Got a picture after the game during the awarding of the trophy, but didn't want to talk to him... he was sitting by himself, and looked very distant -- almost a little sad. It was kinda weird.

**JayVee** · 03-21-2012, 11:23 AM

Draymond Green is 12 rebounds away from tying Kelser at 1092.

**monkeynuts** · 03-30-2012, 09:09 AM

This is not MSU related, but did anyone watch the McDonalds AA game on Wed night? Holy crap is that Shabazz Muhammad guy ridiculously good. He is going to just tear up competition as a freshman wherever he plays. I smell Kentucky.

**monkeynuts** · 04-03-2012, 12:30 PM

Apparently Nix was arrested for pot posession last night (he was driving and it was in his car). Dumb thing to do, but thank god it wasn't a DUI or something much more serious.

Stupid for a likely senior captain...suspending him a game (or two) seems like enough given he gets in no more trouble and does what he needs to do to clean this up.

Nix arrested - LSJ Blogs: Hey, Joe

**monkeynuts** · 04-03-2012, 12:38 PM

I'll just add that it's not that big of a deal if a) he was NOT high while driving and b) it was just for personal use.

While I've certainly dabbled in my day (especially up at MSU) and don't give a crap if some kid is smoking a joint, it's just stupid for someone in his position to put himself in that spot.

**SpartanValor** · 04-03-2012, 01:28 PM

All that lockerroom talk about senior leadership must have been nothing but bs

**SpartanValor** · 04-03-2012, 02:01 PM

After the 2010-2011 season, i'm cool with saying just cut the fat. Pun intended.

*** Tom Izzo couldn't be reached on his phone, but he submitted this comment through Matt Larson: “Based on the information we have received, Derrick Nix has been suspended indefinitely from our basketball team, and his future with our program is uncertain. He made an irresponsible decision that has put his future with our program in serious jeopardy.”
Posted by Joe Rexrode at 12:07:47 PM

**monkeynuts** · 04-03-2012, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by SpartanValor

After the 2010-2011 season, i'm cool with saying just cut the fat. Pun intended.

*** Tom Izzo couldn't be reached on his phone, but he submitted this comment through Matt Larson: “Based on the information we have received, Derrick Nix has been suspended indefinitely from our basketball team, and his future with our program is uncertain. He made an irresponsible decision that has put his future with our program in serious jeopardy.”
Posted by Joe Rexrode at 12:07:47 PM

Yikes. Whatever coach wants to do I'm fine with. He is the one that knows of any past issues that Nix has had.

IF he was high while driving then that'd be a huge deal and I'd be content with booting him. The problem is that he could have had THC in his system from weeks prior that still tested positive.

**SpartanValor** · 04-03-2012, 03:50 PM

I was under the impression he was high, but maybe that wasnt factual.

Either way, I'm sure Iowa State has a few spots open.

**monkeynuts** · 04-03-2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by SpartanValor

I was under the impression he was high, but maybe that wasnt factual.

Either way, I'm sure Iowa State has a few spots open.

First rumor was it was a DUI (not true)...then rumor was he was driving and he had pot in his car...then he was driving, had pot, and was actually high (or at least tested positive). Who knows.

Trust in Izzo.

**monkeynuts** · 04-08-2012, 01:32 PM

Idong Ibok sighting...first row behind home plate at Tigers game...ha...rockin' a MSU sweater...

**lionstigersand...** · 04-12-2012, 03:57 PM

Nix, assuming he can walk the line, will be back next season. Very emotional Presser. Hard not to pull for the guy, even after doing something that dumb.