2013 Tigers Arbitration Players

**PuNk42AE** · 01-18-2013, 01:29 PM

From MLBTradeRumors

First time: Doug Fister ($3.8MM), Austin Jackson ($3.1MM), Alex Avila ($2.5MM), Brennan Boesch ($2.1MM)
Second time: Max Scherzer ($7.5MM), Rick Porcello ($4.7MM), Phil Coke ($1.7MM)
Third time: Ryan Raburn ($2.1MM)

Read more at Arbitration Eligibles: Detroit Tigers: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

All contract numbers are guesses at how much they will get. So far 3 players have signed of the group.

Avila $2.95M
AJax $3.5M
Fister $4.0M

**ballmich** · 01-18-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by PuNk42AE

From MLBTradeRumors

All contract numbers are guesses at how much they will get. So far 3 players have signed of the group.

Avila $2.95M
AJax $3.5M
Fister $4.0M

MLBTradeRumors' projectsion are running well under actual results so far for the Tigers... between 5% and 18% too low.

**PuNk42AE** · 01-18-2013, 01:42 PM

It's basically everyone, part of it is always some of the oversized contracts we see every offseason that seem so out of whack.

Matt Wieters - $4.6MM

Signed for $5.5M

Hunter Pence - $13.8MM

Signed for $13.8M Gasssp

Kendrys Morales - $4.8MM

Signed for $5.25M

**Walt** · 01-18-2013, 01:47 PM

Ricky for 5.1M.

**ballmich** · 01-18-2013, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Walt

Ricky for 5.1M.

8.5% more than MLBTraderumors projected.

**Walt** · 01-18-2013, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by ballmich

8.5% more than MLBTraderumors projected.

Is it really surprising that the Tigers' players are signing for a little more, given that DD doesn't like to take players to arbitration? I would certainly think that the agents would know this and exploit it, while MLBTR overlooks it.

**mmwatkin** · 01-18-2013, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by ballmich

8.5% more than MLBTraderumors projected.

MLBTR projection is almost always under what the Tigers sign their arb eligible players for. The reason is that their projections is based off of their fair value in comparison to every other player.

They fail to account for the fact that the Tigers pride themselves on not going to arbitration and are willing to pay a little extra to do so.

**A.J.K.** · 01-18-2013, 02:07 PM

Why is Raburn on that list?

**mmwatkin** · 01-18-2013, 03:45 PM

Tigers avoid arbitration with Boesch ($2.3M) and Coke ($1.85M).

**Sports_Freak** · 01-18-2013, 04:48 PM

That just leaves Max unsigned?

**catswithbats** · 01-27-2013, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Sports_Freak

That just leaves Max unsigned?

Yep.

**Yoda** · 02-04-2013, 06:17 PM

Max signs for 1 yr, 6.725

**PuNk42AE** · 02-04-2013, 06:45 PM

He asked for 7.4 and the team offered 6.05

**Keepleyland2** · 02-04-2013, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by PuNk42AE

He asked for 7.4 and the team offered 6.05

I never stood why more teams and players don't do this. Here are two numbers split the difference. Everybody gets a bit less/more than they wanted but in the end the two sides don't have to say bad things about one another. No fuss no muss.

**ballmich** · 02-04-2013, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Keepleyland2

I never stood why more teams and players don't do this. Here are two numbers split the difference. Everybody gets a bit less/more than they wanted but in the end the two sides don't have to say bad things about one another. No fuss no muss.

I'm not sure what you mean, because most team do this. The number of players that end up going to arbitration each year is pretty small. Though, as I have pointed out in the past, over a period of many years the arbitration system has leaned in management's favor. So I'm not sure why more organizations don't take their players to arbitration

I'm glad Scherzer is resolved now.

**Yoda** · 02-04-2013, 07:36 PM

How many players have gone to arbitration with DD in charge? Any?

**ROMAD1** · 02-04-2013, 07:41 PM

DD is a golden god! At least while he holds Mr. I's gold anyway.

**Yoda** · 02-04-2013, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by ballmich

I'm not sure what you mean, because most team do this. The number of players that end up going to arbitration each year is pretty small. Though, as I have pointed out in the past, over a period of many years the arbitration system has leaned in management's favor. So I'm not sure why more organizations don't take their players to arbitration

I'm glad Scherzer is resolved now.

Because it's a dirty process that nobody enjoys. The million bucks they might save isn't worth it.

**Keepleyland2** · 02-04-2013, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by ballmich

I'm not sure what you mean, because most team do this. The number of players that end up going to arbitration each year is pretty small. Though, as I have pointed out in the past, over a period of many years the arbitration system has leaned in management's favor. So I'm not sure why more organizations don't take their players to arbitration

I'm glad Scherzer is resolved now.

I mean i don't understand why 1 players goes to arbitration. I can't imagine its fun for a player to hear that they don't deserve X dollars because they gave up Y number of hits or only hit Z. Not sure i'd sign an extension when my boss just pointed out all my flaws to save a few bucks.

There are some teams the prefer to go through the arbitration process cause of what you described. But, i don't understand that thinking

**Keepleyland2** · 02-04-2013, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda

How many players have gone to arbitration with DD in charge? Any?

None.....ever. It's one of his calling cards.

**mmwatkin** · 02-04-2013, 10:38 PM

Payroll right now is $148.925M for the 25 man roster.

Wowzers

**Sports_Freak** · 02-05-2013, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Keepleyland2

I mean i don't understand why 1 players goes to arbitration. I can't imagine its fun for a player to hear that they don't deserve X dollars because they gave up Y number of hits or only hit Z. Not sure i'd sign an extension when my boss just pointed out all my flaws to save a few bucks.

There are some teams the prefer to go through the arbitration process cause of what you described. But, i don't understand that thinking

You also can't compromise. At least, the way it used to be. They would either give the player what he wanted or give him the team offer. Talking down your player really isn't in the best interest of the team, probably why DD doesn't do it.

I'm glad Max was signed. But I really thought they were going to announce a long-term deal for him.