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    *realizes there both left handed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelton View Post
    I think it is tacky to suggest that anyone would trade for Ramon Santiago.
    I think it is tacky to NOT suggest a trade for Giancarlo Stanton. I can give you five good reasons why it has potential to get done. :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogergoochman View Post
    *realizes there both left handed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelton View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netnerd View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelton View Post
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    This forum needs more poetry. Thanks for stepping it up, Shelton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Mitchell View Post
    Boesch for Kyle Seager?
    What makes you think Kyle Seager would be offered by Seattle?
    Kyle Seager is an excellent baseball player.
    Brennan Boesch is garbage.
    Don't underestimate Mister Jack.
    An excellent baseball player? An average fielder with a .730 career OPS? And "Mister Jack" has had 3 last place seasons in a row. Do you say anything relevant anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysthrowheat View Post
    An excellent baseball player? An average fielder with a .730 career OPS? And "Mister Jack" has had 3 last place seasons in a row. Do you say anything relevant anymore?
    Comparing Kyle Seager to Brennan Boesch is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cioe View Post
    This forum needs more poetry. Thanks for stepping it up, Shelton.
    What the forum needs is more Haiku. Baseball Haiku
    It's pronounced Canada, and no, I haven't.

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    According to this, the Marlins are entertaining offers for Giancarlo Stanton. It really was only a matter of time, wasn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasfh View Post
    According to this, the Marlins are entertaining offers for Giancarlo Stanton. It really was only a matter of time, wasn't it?
    WEDNESDAY: Though there’s lots of interest in Stanton, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports hears from sources who all but rule out a trade (Twitter link). One person told Rosenthal chances of a deal are “as close to zero as they can be.”

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    Has Danny Worth ever played left? I just can't shake the bad feeling that a Dirks/Worth platoon is Leyland's plan B....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keepleyland2 View Post
    WEDNESDAY: Though there’s lots of interest in Stanton, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports hears from sources who all but rule out a trade (Twitter link). One person told Rosenthal chances of a deal are “as close to zero as they can be.”

    Read more at MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
    That was before we offered Brendan Boesch AND Rick Porcello for him...

    Seriously though, Jackson, Porcello, and Castellanos and DD's daughters?
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    lets not be hasty
    you cant trade austin jackson
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    and Austin Jackson isn't Willie Mays...I'd make that trade straight up every day and twice on sundays...unfortunately MIami wouldn't.
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    Why the hell would they trade Stanton NOW? He is dirt cheap right now. Isn't that what they want? I don't understand what the hell they are doing down there. A-hole owners. How the hell does that team have any fans?

    What bugs me further is how the Major League Owners want nothing to do with Mark Cuban who would NEVER screw his team's fans over. What is this league saying - they'd prefer these con men over someone like Cuban who may be a bit loud and colorful, but would do whatever he could get away with to win. Isn't that what you want?


    Okay, enough with that rant. I'd ask the Marlins "what do you want?". If they said Nick C, Avi Garcia and Rick Porcello............DONE. Remember how some of us freaked over giving up Miller and Maybin? Stanton-Jackson-Hunter with Dirks on the bench. Are you kidding me? And Stanton would be relatively cheap the next 3 years. Do it. Go for it. 2013 & 2014 are all that matters. Beyond that, I don't care right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motor City Sonics View Post
    What bugs me further is how the Major League Owners want nothing to do with Mark Cuban who would NEVER screw his team's fans over. What is this league saying - they'd prefer these con men over someone like Cuban who may be a bit loud and colorful, but would do whatever he could get away with to win. Isn't that what you want?
    The league would prefer player salaries to be depressed as much as possible, and the more buyers there are on the market for a player's services -> higher player salaries. Also, the more powerful a team is in a division, the more their competitors have to spend to keep up with the Jones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shauntacular View Post
    lets not be hasty
    you cant trade austin jackson
    stanton is not ruth
    Keep Austin Jackson
    Trade Castellanos, Garcia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Mitchell View Post
    Comparing Kyle Seager to Brennan Boesch is a joke.
    And so is calling Kyle Seager an excellent baseball player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysthrowheat View Post
    And so is calling Kyle Seager an excellent baseball player.
    Excellent is a little strong, but a OPS+ of 110 as a 24 year old in his first full year in the majors, is pretty good. There's a lot to like with Seager. I don't think you could get him for Boesch, but clearly neither of these guys are all-stars.
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    Kyle Seager is a nice player, and a bit of a rarity in that he doessn't seems to have glaring weaknesses, despite the fact that he also doesn't seem to excel at anything either. He might be a better fit for 2b.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by zCor View Post
    Has Danny Worth ever played left? I just can't shake the bad feeling that a Dirks/Worth platoon is Leyland's plan B....
    If anything Jim can put Infante in LF against LHP and then slot Worth in at 2nd. Defense would be good but obviously we lose offense with Worth in the lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Some Dude View Post
    If anything Jim can put Infante in LF against LHP and then slot Worth in at 2nd. Defense would be good but obviously we lose offense with Worth in the lineup.
    An interesting idea.

    In his MLB career, Worth has hit lefties: 0.273 / 0.346 / 0.347
    In his MLB career, Dirks has hit lefties: 0.288 / 0.345 / 0.442

    So Dirks hits lefties with more power, but the rest is more or less equal. So the questions, in my mind, are:

    a. Is Worth enough of an defensive upgrade over Omar at 2nd paired with Omar in left relative to Dirks to make up for a 100 points of slugging, and

    b. Is it better to just leave Dirks in against lefties for developmental purposes until he demonstrates he can't OPS .750 or better against lefties?

    I suspect the answer to a. is no and b. is yes, so I doubt the Tigers would pursue it. But I like the thinking outside of the box.

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    Worth is a mediocre defender and a poor hitter...same with Santiago at this point. Throw in Kobernus and the backup IF options are very poor IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth View Post
    An interesting idea.

    In his MLB career, Worth has hit lefties: 0.273 / 0.346 / 0.347
    In his MLB career, Dirks has hit lefties: 0.288 / 0.345 / 0.442

    So Dirks hits lefties with more power, but the rest is more or less equal. So the questions, in my mind, are:

    a. Is Worth enough of an defensive upgrade over Omar at 2nd paired with Omar in left relative to Dirks to make up for a 100 points of slugging, and

    b. Is it better to just leave Dirks in against lefties for developmental purposes until he demonstrates he can't OPS .750 or better against lefties?

    I suspect the answer to a. is no and b. is yes, so I doubt the Tigers would pursue it. But I like the thinking outside of the box.
    My vote is to not platoon Dirks in LF. It's just that the Tigers seem dead set on having a RH option available. So I guess they can continue to look for a RH OF or maybe a better backup 2nd base option to make it worth having Infante in LF. Really though I think Dirks will be just fine full time in LF.

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    Dirks has 114 career PAs against lefties.

    I mean it is nice that he had success so far, but I think it's far too premature to rely on him in that role.

    It's rare for marginal lefty hitters to hit well against lefty pitchers. I think the best course of action is to follow that trend and limit his PAs against LHP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shauntacular View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Some Dude View Post
    My vote is to not platoon Dirks in LF. It's just that the Tigers seem dead set on having a RH option available. So I guess they can continue to look for a RH OF or maybe a better backup 2nd base option to make it worth having Infante in LF. Really though I think Dirks will be just fine full time in LF.
    I will speculate that to JL, Dirks's biggest liability as an OF is lack of power, so I don't see any kind of move that puts a Worth type in the game as part of his likely thinking. I think he's more likely to be lobbying for Delmon Part Duex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabretooth View Post
    I'm sick and tired of DD and JL settling for whoever is lying around to make up their bench. Pena, Kobernus, Worth, Santiago, Berry???? Berry is the only one who has a marketable plus skill (stolen bases), and Kobernus can reportedly cover some OF/IF defense pretty well, but beyond these modest talents, it's a bad group.
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    If Dirks plays everyday, 162 games, just how many ABs would he have vs. lefthanded pitching? Maybe 100-150? Signing a platoon player for big bucks for 100 ABs doesn't seem like a priority.

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    Probably more like double that. Figure 550-600 PAs, and maybe 35% of pitches are thrown by lefties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roarintiger1 View Post
    If Dirks plays everyday, 162 games, just how many ABs would he have vs. lefthanded pitching? Maybe 100-150? Signing a platoon player for big bucks for 100 ABs doesn't seem like a priority.
    I want the platoon partner for Dirks at least as much (if not more) to have a quality 4th MLB OF on the roster in case one of Jackson, Wells or Dirks is injured. The Tigers don't have much organizational depth at OF.

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    Wells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Mitchell View Post
    Comparing Kyle Seager to Brennan Boesch is a joke.

    Really?

    Boesch career .259/.315/.414/.729

    Seager career .259/.315/.412/.727


    Yeah, real joke.


    Tigers need a backup infielder. Seager can play all 2b/SS/3b. Better option than Worth, Santiago, Kobernus or Perez.

    Seager's a solid ballplayer, that has shown flashes of really good play. Boesch has too. To write off Boesch forever is kind of ridiculous at his age. He needs to fix some things, sure, but he is far too young with too much natural ability to write off. He has power, he does have some value....just not for the Tigers who don't need yet another left-handed hitting OF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelton View Post
    Wells?
    Yeah...who's this "Wells"? Casper, Vernon, David, Bob....?
    It's pronounced Canada, and no, I haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john doe View Post
    Yeah...who's this "Wells"? Casper, Vernon, David, Bob....?
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