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    Default Official 2012 Rule 5 draft thread




    Will the Tigers pick someone? Indications are there is at least 1 player they want.

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Detroit Tigers will pick 20th on Thursday morning in the Rule 5 draft. Or they might not.

    But they hope they will.

    "We are hopeful that we can draft," Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski said Wednesday afternoon. "We have a player or two in mind that if we can draft we will. So you know, if we do not draft it's because a player that we were seeking has been drafted."

    Detroit Tigers have eye on at least one player they would pick if he is available in Rule 5 draft | MLive.com
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    Default 2012 Rule V Draft

    Coming into the draft (starting now) here is each teams 40 Man Roster amount.

    40-man roster status
    Below is a look at where each team's 40-man roster stood as of Thursday morning. Clubs are listed in the order in which they will select in the Rule 5 Draft. Pick Club #
    1 Astros 37
    2 Cubs 37
    3 Rockies 38
    4 Twins 36
    5 Indians 39
    6 Marlins 37
    7 Red Sox 38
    8 Royals 40
    9 Blue Jays 40
    10 Mets 37
    11 Mariners 39
    12 Padres 40
    13 Pirates 39
    14 D-backs 35
    15 Phillies 36
    16 Brewers 39
    17 White Sox 37
    18 Dodgers 38
    19 Cardinals 39
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    21 Angels 37
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    24 Rangers 36
    25 Athletics 40
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    28 Yankees 40
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    30 Nationals 36
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    #1 Houston - RP Josh Fields from Red Sox
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    #2 Cubs - Hector Rondon, rhp from Indians

    #3 Rockies - Daniel Rosenbaum, lhp from Nationals

    #4 Twins - Ryan Pressley, rhp from Red Sox

    #5 Indians - Chris McGuinness, 1b from Rangers

    #6 Marlins - Alfredo Silverio, of from Dodgers
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    #7 Red Sox - Jeff Kobernus, 2b from Nationals

    #10 Mets - Kyle Lobstein, rhp from Rays

    #14 Diamondbacks - Starling Peralta, rhp from Cubs
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    #15 Phillies - Ender Inciarte, OF from Diamondbacks

    #17 White Sox - Angel Sanchez, INF from Angels

    #23 Orioles - TJ McFarland, LHP from Indians
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    James Schmehl ‏@jamesschmehl
    #Tigers choose not to make a pick in Rule 5 draft. #WinterMeetings

    Alex Speier ‏@alexspeier
    Tigers will get Kobernus
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    Tigers will give Sox a non-roster player for Kobernus. Not final who yet...
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    Alex Speier ‏@alexspeier
    Sox take 2B Jeff Koberniss from Nationals

    Alex Speier ‏@alexspeier
    Sox will trade Kobernus.hit 282/325/333/658 in Dbl-A in '12
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    #24 Rangers - Coty Woods, rhp from Rangers

    Round 2

    #1 Astros - Nate Freiman, 1b from Padres

    #6 Marlins - Brauilo Lara, lhp from Rays
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    15 Total players drafted in the MLB portion of the draft
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    Really fast 2B who I assume has value defensively because he can't hit. He turns 25 in June.

    Stole 42 bases in just 82 games last year.
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    Now this....they wouldn't take 2 to keep would they?

    Jonathan Mayo ‏@JonathanMayoB3
    Look for the Mets to trade Rule 5 pick Kyle Lobstein to the Tigers. Tigers ran a note to the Mets' table right before the pick
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    Jason Beck ‏@beckjason
    Lefty pitcher out of Rays system. RT @JonathanMayoB3: Look for the Mets to trade Rule 5 pick Kyle Lobstein to the Tigers.
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    Jay Voss selected by StL from Erie in AAA phase.

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    Jason Beck ‏@beckjason
    Dombrowski said last night they had a couple guys they were looking at in Rule 5. So there's that.
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    27 Total players drafted in the AAA portion of the draft
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    Jason Beck ‏@beckjason
    #Tigers lose another lefty, Efrain Nieves, in Rule 5.
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    0 Taken in the AA phase
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    Oops forgot this one was here
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersSlappy View Post
    Jason Beck ‏@beckjason
    #Tigers lose another lefty, Efrain Nieves, in Rule 5.
    I had to look up this one.

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    Lobstein gives up a Porcello-like amount of hits, but struck out 8.1/9 last year which is decent for a 22 yr old in AA.
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    I don't really understand the Lobstein addition when seemingly Downs and Below should both be ahead of him for a roster spot.

    Kobernus' defense and speed are appealing - if he's going to stick, perhaps they've found a deal for Santiago.

    It seems like there were some upside outfielders (Hood, Smith) worth a look for the Tigers, but perhaps not since no one selected them.

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    James Schmehl ‏@jamesschmehl

    #Tigers confirm that they have traded for two players in today's Rule 5 draft: 2B Jeff Kobernus and LHP Kyle Lobstein.
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    Detroit Tigers ‏@tigers RT @bbritten_tigers: #Tigers acquired Kobernus from Boston for Justin Henry. Lobstein acquired from Mets for cash considerations.
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    From BA's draft page...

    7 Red Sox Jeff Kobernus, 2b Nationals
    More advanced than the average Rule 5 pick, Kobernus can play solid defense at second, steal some bases (42 in 53 tries in 2012) and hit a little. He lacks power, but plays the game with a hard-edged, heady approach
    10 Mets Kyle Lobstein, rhp Rays
    Highly-regarded coming out of college, Lobstein lost some velocity his senior year and has never regained. He's now a pitchability lefty who works in and out and features a good changeup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuNk42AE View Post
    From BA's draft page...
    10 Mets Kyle Lobstein, rhp Rays
    Highly-regarded coming out of college, Lobstein lost some velocity his senior year and has never regained. He's now a pitchability leftywho works in and out and features a good changeup.


    Ok, what I am I missing here????

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    Tigers obtaining new players, how did this get bumped to the major league board?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redshark63 View Post
    Kyle Lobstein - features a good changeup.

    Ok, what I am I missing here????
    They need a BP pitcher with a good change up to perfect their one handed swing and misses against?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersSlappy View Post
    They need a BP pitcher with a good change up to perfect their one handed swing and misses against?
    No, I was referring to the fact that he was listed as a right handed pitcher, but referred to as a lefty in the summary. the rhp part was incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    Tigers obtaining new players, how did this get bumped to the major league board?
    Looks like they merged with my thread in the MLB one which wasn't about the Tigers, but about everyone.
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    Brian Britten ‏@BBritten_Tigers
    Lobstein finished second in Southern League with 129 SO with Montgomery in 2012. #tigers
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    Jason Beck ‏@beckjason
    Dombrowski: Kobernus will compete for utility role, could play some outfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersSlappy View Post
    Brian Britten ‏@BBritten_Tigers
    Lobstein finished second in Southern League with 129 SO with Montgomery in 2012. #tigers
    Also had 69 walks in 144 innings.
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    Link to complete MLB Rule 5 results:

    MLB Rule 5 Draft results - Baseball Nation
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    If Kobernus is a good enough glove man in the middle infield to be a defensive replacement and be a pinch runner off the bench for the Tigers, I would be pretty happy with that.

    Don't know if playing OF adds significantly to his utility unless it is thought he can back up CF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redshark63 View Post
    Also had 69 walks in 144 innings.
    Oh don't rain on his parade.....lol.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth View Post
    If Kobernus is a good enough glove man in the middle infield to be a defensive replacement and be a pinch runner off the bench for the Tigers, I would be pretty happy with that.

    Don't know if playing OF adds significantly to his utility unless it is thought he can back up CF.
    With Dirks and Hunter both capable of backing up CF already, not sure of the need for a bu Cf
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