Ryan Raburn Released

**davidsb** · 11-21-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Nastradamus

I still want Casper back for that platoon role. I can't imagine it would be hard to pull off.

Because .220 hitters are so hard to come by.

**Nastradamus** · 11-21-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by davidsb

Because .220 hitters are so hard to come by.

Wells had an .890 OPS against lefties last year, that while playing half of his games in arguably the worst park in the majors for righties. He's also a plus fielder and has been worth 4.1 WAR in his 656 PAs in the majors.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 11-21-2012, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by T&P_Fan

Back in the early days Ban Johnson used to love to find men who worked in the fields or were farmers and turn them into professional ball players. What you said reminded me of that because the principal is the same.

So, I agree.

I think you are either thinking of Branch Rickey or John McGraw.

**tiger337** · 11-21-2012, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by davidsb

Because .220 hitters are so hard to come by.

Be careful what you say. His father is watching.

**T&P_Fan** · 11-21-2012, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

I think you are either thinking of Branch Rickey or John McGraw.

That might be right, John McGraw seems to be the likely candidate. I always get some of the earlier characters confused.

**Biff Mayhem** · 11-21-2012, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by tiger337

Be careful what you say. His father is watching.

He'll come to Ferndale too...

**catswithbats** · 11-21-2012, 04:45 PM

Ryan Raburn will hit two homers off Joaquin Benoit next year as starting LF for the Houston Astros. Book it.

And then some dumb fan will be like "Why did we ever get rid of this guy?!"

**sabretooth** · 11-21-2012, 09:16 PM

So long, Ryan....a guy with some pop, speed and a cannon who managed to be a fairly decent semi-regular player for a few years. Most people would kill to have lived his life for the last 5 years.

**IdahoBert** · 11-21-2012, 10:42 PM

I wonder who we will trade to get him back in three years?

**Zack attack** · 11-22-2012, 10:29 PM

I see the Marlins picking him up and playing him in a utility role just because they need to fill roster spots right now.

Good news is I can finally get rid of this (RYAN) RUGBURN that I've had for years...

**hueytaxi** · 11-23-2012, 02:52 AM

Hope the Rays pick him up so Mom and Dad can watch him more often.

**ROMAD1** · 11-23-2012, 07:15 AM

Anybody have insight on the ugliness that happened toward the end with Ryan? I don't want to stir up dirty laundry but at the same time I'm curious as to his not being around that final month. Besides his bad stats it seemed like there were some issues. [edit: I might be thinking of Boesch here...Raburn always seemed like he was a good soldier]

**Biff Mayhem** · 11-23-2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by ROMAD1

Anybody have insight on the ugliness that happened toward the end with Ryan? I don't want to stir up dirty laundry but at the same time I'm curious as to his not being around that final month. Besides his bad stats it seemed like there were some issues.

He had an "injury".

**T.O. Tiger Fan** · 11-23-2012, 07:37 AM

Raburn's made a pretty decent career thus far given his limited defensive abilities. I imagine someone will pick him up and give him a shot.

**ROMAD1** · 11-23-2012, 08:32 AM

I wish him the best. He's a streaky hitter if there ever was one. He had some phenomenal numbers against the White Sox from what I recall.

**grandma g** · 11-23-2012, 09:20 AM

Wish you folks would find another "thing" to beat up...Let him go in Peace! Find someone else to tear up....Our family wishes Ryan nothing BUT THE BEST & hope he land with a team, if that is his wish....Hoping his injuries are behind him and he is given a fresh start...Ryan is one classy guy & not just saying that because he stayed with us his 2 West Michigan seasons either....Grandma G & Family

**ROMAD1** · 11-23-2012, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by grandma g

Wish you folks would find another "thing" to beat up...Let him go in Peace! Find someone else to tear up....Our family wishes Ryan nothing BUT THE BEST & hope he land with a team, if that is his wish....Hoping his injuries are behind him and he is given a fresh start...Ryan is one classy guy & not just saying that because he stayed with us his 2 West Michigan seasons either....Grandma G & Family

ok, go easy. It happens to everyone in every walk of life. Do not mean to dump on a guy when he's down but he's no more worthy of the general fan's concern than their colleague who just got laid off. He will find another baseball opportunity and then he will get on with the rest of his professional life in whatever calling it might be. Baseball careers are not the sum total of a man's life.

**Biff Mayhem** · 11-23-2012, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by grandma g

Wish you folks would find another "thing" to beat up...Let him go in Peace! Find someone else to tear up....Our family wishes Ryan nothing BUT THE BEST & hope he land with a team, if that is his wish....Hoping his injuries are behind him and he is given a fresh start...Ryan is one classy guy & not just saying that because he stayed with us his 2 West Michigan seasons either....Grandma G & Family

That's it guys, grannie has spoken. From now on it's sunshine and bubbles! No more hard or in-depth discussion of players talent levels etc.

The man played in West Michigan for TWO YEARS for crying out loud! Stop picking on him! (even though he'll never read a single word of this thread).

**ROMAD1** · 11-23-2012, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Biff Mayhem

That's it guys, grannie has spoken. From now on it's sunshine and bubbles! No more hard or in-depth discussion of players talent levels etc.

The man played in West Michigan for TWO YEARS for crying out loud! Stop picking on him! (even though he'll never read a single word of this thread).

Biff, you should run for office with that level of political dexterity and tact.

**Biff Mayhem** · 11-23-2012, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by ROMAD1

Biff, you should run for office with that level of political dexterity and tact.

Yah, sorry, I was a little irritated after a trip to Menards. I purposely waited until 9 am to avoid the idiots but sure enough there was that one guy who said to himself "Ya know what, I'm stupid, so therefore I should stand in the middle of a crowded aisle with my cart blocking everyone while doing nothing".

**ROMAD1** · 11-23-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Biff Mayhem

Yah, sorry, I was a little irritated after a trip to Menards. I purposely waited until 9 am to avoid the idiots but sure enough there was that one guy who said to himself "Ya know what, I'm stupid, so therefore I should stand in the middle of a crowded aisle with my cart blocking everyone while doing nothing".

It could have been like this if you had a gun.

**tiger337** · 11-23-2012, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by grandma g

Wish you folks would find another "thing" to beat up...Let him go in Peace! Find someone else to tear up....Our family wishes Ryan nothing BUT THE BEST & hope he land with a team, if that is his wish....Hoping his injuries are behind him and he is given a fresh start...Ryan is one classy guy & not just saying that because he stayed with us his 2 West Michigan seasons either....Grandma G & Family

I think fans have ripped Raburn too much at times, but I think this particular thread has been pretty fair and balanced.

**grandma g** · 11-23-2012, 06:14 PM

Ryan came to West Michigan the last 6 weeks of the 02 season & only was here the first 3 weeks of the 03 season before his promo to Lakeland...guess every can have their opinions but to keep dragging it on & on.. gets old really fast when there is so much good to talk about...like Is DD going after some Pitching?

**hueytaxi** · 11-23-2012, 07:40 PM

We've lost some WM fans on this forum and quite a few will not come here because of the criticism they read. I can't imagine having a player live with us for a season and then read about him in a negative light. I'm sure I would blow my stack at the poster whether he/she was justified in the post or not. You get very close to the players, they become your kids. So please, GrandmaG is one we have not ostracized. Sure she goes overboard at times. I say this and consider her a friend and know she still means well. But enough about her. This is a Raburn thread. I also think something happened to collapse the Leyland love for him and wonder. I'll miss his annual friendly early arrival at JMS.

**Yoda** · 11-23-2012, 08:01 PM

To be fair roger, she brings it on herself. People are here to discuss the team and it's player and it doesn't really matter if they're nice people or not. She should know before she even opens the thread.

**Gehringer_2** · 11-23-2012, 08:27 PM

It certainly is not the player's fault when a non-performer is given enough playing time to drive the fanbase crazy with rage

But on the other hand, when was the last a bad player took himself off a roster? It's pretty universal that they prefer to take the abuse along with the money and the PT rather than walk away!

**hueytaxi** · 11-23-2012, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda

To be fair roger, she brings it on herself. People are here to discuss the team and it's player and it doesn't really matter if they're nice people or not. She should know before she even opens the thread.

Yes, and I think she also realizes it over the years, but she will continue to defend her Whitecaps regardless. Some of the tidbits I learn and post originate with her. I'm sure she would be much more popular if she would post those rather than I. I feel lucky to have met so many of the WM fans and host families. Off my horse now.

**Vonlenska** · 11-23-2012, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by hueytaxi

We've lost some WM fans on this forum and quite a few will not come here because of the criticism they read. I can't imagine having a player live with us for a season and then read about him in a negative light. I'm sure I would blow my stack at the poster whether he/she was justified in the post or not. You get very close to the players, they become your kids. So please, GrandmaG is one we have not ostracized. Sure she goes overboard at times. I say this and consider her a friend and know she still means well. But enough about her. This is a Raburn thread. I also think something happened to collapse the Leyland love for him and wonder. I'll miss his annual friendly early arrival at JMS.

Huey, she is the one who changed the thread into another direction. This is a message board, and players get criticized. Raburn was a good player for most of his time here but was absolutely horrible this year. He's gone. That's just how it is. If someone doesn't want to read criticism about a player, I'd suggest not reading the thread announcing his release after his .450 OPS or whatever in 2012.

**ROMAD1** · 11-23-2012, 09:10 PM

People experience the Detroit Tigers in a lot of different ways. I doubt my fandom will ever evolve to the point where I'll invite the baby Tigers into my home. Good on her for that. I also recognize that rumor mongering about a guy who is actively seeking a job is a bad thing for the dude who is looking. However, I'd have to think the word is out and he's going to get whatever camp invite he gets based on a team's needs and the potential he can offer with a fresh Brandon Inge-like start. He's an absolute monster in MLB 2k...which I'm sure will excite any GM who bases his scouting exclusively on his xbox gameplay...(kidding).

**Vonlenska** · 11-23-2012, 09:11 PM

He's really good in The Show too.

**potthole** · 11-23-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by grandma g

Ryan came to West Michigan the last 6 weeks of the 02 season & only was here the first 3 weeks of the 03 season before his promo to Lakeland...guess every can have their opinions but to keep dragging it on & on.. gets old really fast when there is so much good to talk about...like Is DD going after some Pitching?

I don't think anything has been drug "on and on" in this thread. People seem to be having a relatively reasonable discussion, considering this is a fan message board and all.

Think you need to maybe take a step back from your closeness with players and realize 99% of the people on here are strictly fans, and don't have that personal connection you have with some people in the organization.

**RJBBREZ** · 11-23-2012, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by grandma g

Ryan came to West Michigan the last 6 weeks of the 02 season & only was here the first 3 weeks of the 03 season before his promo to Lakeland...guess every can have their opinions but to keep dragging it on & on.. gets old really fast when there is so much good to talk about...like Is DD going after some Pitching?

It's a thread about Ryan Raburn, pretty easy to see why people are discussing him. And if it bothers you to read it, I'd suggest not opening the thread. Seems simple to me grandma g.

**catswithbats** · 11-24-2012, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by ROMAD1

Anybody have insight on the ugliness that happened toward the end with Ryan? I don't want to stir up dirty laundry but at the same time I'm curious as to his not being around that final month. Besides his bad stats it seemed like there were some issues. [edit: I might be thinking of Boesch here...Raburn always seemed like he was a good soldier]

IIRC, he injured something (groin? I don't remember) while on rehab for a different injury. I mean, the Tigers invented an injury to get rid of him obviously.

Originally Posted by Vonlenska

He's really good in The Show too.

Not as good as Bryan Raboesch, though.

**Antrat** · 11-24-2012, 08:27 AM

I let Barbaro Garbey live with me for a week. House was trashed and the dog got pregnant.
Never again.

**Biff Mayhem** · 11-24-2012, 08:43 AM

I had a serial killer stay at my house for a week back in 1987.

**ROMAD1** · 11-24-2012, 09:13 AM

didn't like Captain Crunch?

**sabretooth** · 11-24-2012, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Antrat

.....and the dog got pregnant.

.....because he let the neighbor's dog in for a congujal visit.

**ROMAD1** · 11-24-2012, 09:26 AM

I notice that the very first member listed on the MTS roster is #1BarbaroGarbeyfan...not many posts.

**tiger337** · 11-24-2012, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by catswithbats

IIRC, he injured something (groin? I don't remember) while on rehab for a different injury. I mean, the Tigers invented an injury to get rid of him obviously.

Right, if they wanted to make up an injury, why didn't they just stick with the original injury?

**catswithbats** · 11-24-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by tiger337

Right, if they wanted to make up an injury, why didn't they just stick with the original injury?

Yeah. Making up a second injury is a bit unnecessary.

I also seem to remember Raburn's second injury being mentioned by the MudHens broadcaster as an explanation why he wasn't playing during his rehab stint. I have a hard time believing the Tigers organization would go to all that trouble to lie about Raburn's injuries.