2012 Awards Round-Up

**Motor City Sonics** · 11-15-2012, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Antrat

Oh, boy. Just Trout is live.

They had Jason Beck on representing the Cabrera side.

**irishock** · 11-15-2012, 06:35 PM

How does the guy at the MLB studios not win it?

He'd probably smash the studio with a bat if he doesn't win.

**Antrat** · 11-15-2012, 06:36 PM

I didn't think I would be this nervous over an award, but I am.

**Nolan** · 11-15-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Antrat

I didn't think I would be this nervous over an award, but I am.

+1, really want him to win.

**MC24** · 11-15-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Antrat

I didn't think I would be this nervous over an award, but I am.

I want Miggy to win mainly to see heads explode.

**hail2mich** · 11-15-2012, 06:42 PM

Just announce the damn thing.

**Antrat** · 11-15-2012, 06:42 PM

I dislike Brain Kenney.

**Tram&Lou** · 11-15-2012, 06:42 PM

I want Miggy to win obviously but what kind of motivation would that be for next year if Justin just misses the Cy Young and Miggy just misses MVP.

**hail2mich** · 11-15-2012, 06:44 PM

YEAH BABY!!!

**TigersSlappy** · 11-15-2012, 06:44 PM

It's MiggyVP!!!!!!!

**Antrat** · 11-15-2012, 06:44 PM

YES!!!!

**Kamakzie** · 11-15-2012, 06:44 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! MIGGY!!!!!!!!!!

**VegasTiger** · 11-15-2012, 06:44 PM

WOOOOHOOOO

**MC24** · 11-15-2012, 06:45 PM

OH YEAH!

**Antrat** · 11-15-2012, 06:45 PM

Not even that close!

**TigersSlappy** · 11-15-2012, 06:47 PM

22 of 28 1st place votes.

**waynr** · 11-15-2012, 06:49 PM

Congrats Miggy. They got it right. the sabermetric crap didnt matter.

**Nolan** · 11-15-2012, 06:49 PM

Schilling is a douche.

**Yoda** · 11-15-2012, 06:49 PM

Congrats Miggy!! Prince has to win next year.

**Motor City Sonics** · 11-15-2012, 06:50 PM

Who is the idiot who voted Trout third?

**Yoda** · 11-15-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by waynr

Congrats Miggy. They got it right. the sabermetric crap didnt matter.

Defense and stolen bases isn't saber metric crap and it does matter.

**Nolan** · 11-15-2012, 06:54 PM

Let Trout repeat what he did this year over 150+ games next year and he will get the MVP.

**TigersSlappy** · 11-15-2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Motor City Sonics

Who is the idiot who voted Trout third?

Sheldon Ocker - Akron Beacon Journal - Had Beltre 2nd.

Mark Whicker of the Orange County Register voted Cabrera/Trout - he may take some heat.

**RandyMarsh** · 11-15-2012, 06:57 PM

John Lowe of the Free Press had Jim Johnson 3rd.lol Atleast he had Cabrera and Trout 1-2 so it's not like it would've had any impact on the voting regardless but still, wtf was he thinking?

**Yoda** · 11-15-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Nolan

Let Trout repeat what he did this year over 150+ games next year and he will get the MVP.

Nah that sabermetric crap don't matter.

**TigersSlappy** · 11-15-2012, 07:00 PM

keithlaw ‏@keithlaw

This is quite bizarre. Unquestionably a top ten player in the league. RT @mattymaclellan: @keithlaw not a single vote for austin jackson?

**Yoda** · 11-15-2012, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

John Lowe of the Free Press had Jim Johnson 3rd.lol Atleast he had Cabrera and Trout 1-2 so it's not like it would've had any impact on the voting regardless but still, wtf was he thinking?

Wtf.....

**waynr** · 11-15-2012, 07:02 PM

I do agree Yoda but Miggy was better at 3rd than alot of people thought he would be. Im talking about what ever That WAR thing means. I dont understand that. From what i gather its what wins u would get above a fictional player. If thats true you can make up anything you want. If trout would have been out for sometime Im sure that Hunter would have replaced him. Thats not much loss defensively> Had Cabrera been out I think Kelly would have been his replacement and I dont think I need to say more.

**Sports_Freak** · 11-15-2012, 07:03 PM

Amazing, IMO, that it wasn't even that close. Miggy 22 of 28 1st place votes.

I was pretty nervous, there's no doubt Trout had a great season and I tip my hat to him.
But winning the Triple Cown and having your team make the playoffs probably both made the difference.

Miggy's 4 years in Detroit?

Lead the league in homers.
Lead the league in RBI
Lead the league in batting average.
And finally, in year 4, he ran the table with his Triple Crown.

I'm all for modern stats, but winning a Triple Crown is such a rare feat, it would get my vote.
Defense and baserunning? Yes, Trout had the advantage. Huge advantage.

Thank You Miggy for keeping the MVP in the D!

**MC24** · 11-15-2012, 07:05 PM

JV finished ahead of Price in MVP but Price wins Cy Young. Logic.

**Oblong** · 11-15-2012, 07:12 PM

I knew it wouldn't be close

**Antrat** · 11-15-2012, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Sports_Freak

Miggy's 4 years in Detroit?

Lead the league in homers.
Lead the league in RBI
Lead the league in batting average.
And finally, in year 4, he ran the table with his Triple Crown.

Took the bum four years to get all three in one year!

**Sports_Freak** · 11-15-2012, 07:14 PM

Miggy may just be coming into his prime. The numbers he put up this season may be even better next season.

As for WAR? Who had more home runs? Who had more RBI? Who had a better BA?
Or doesn't all of that matter? If not, it seems like a silly made-up stat to me.

MVP to the player who changed positions to make his team better. MVP to the player who played on a really messed up ankle for 50 games or so.
MVP to a player who was the first Triple Crown winner in 45 years!

**brad22784** · 11-15-2012, 07:16 PM

WTG Miggy! First Tiger batter to win MVP in 72 years.

**Yoda** · 11-15-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by waynr

I do agree Yoda but Miggy was better at 3rd than alot of people thought he would be. Im talking about what ever That WAR thing means. I dont understand that. From what i gather its what wins u would get above a fictional player. If thats true you can make up anything you want. If trout would have been out for sometime Im sure that Hunter would have replaced him. Thats not much loss defensively> Had Cabrera been out I think Kelly would have been his replacement and I dont think I need to say more.

But who would have replaced hunter?

**Yoda** · 11-15-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sports_Freak

Miggy may just be coming into his prime. The numbers he put up this season may be even better next season.

As for WAR? Who had more home runs? Who had more RBI? Who had a better BA?
Or doesn't all of that matter? If not, it seems like a silly made-up stat to me.

MVP to the player who changed positions to make his team better. MVP to the player who played on a really messed up ankle for 50 games or so.
MVP to a player who was the first Triple Crown winner in 45 years!

Of course they matter in war. Everything matters in war, including defense, stolen bases, grounded into double plays. Everything. These should all be factored into a players value, I'm not sure why people don't get this. To me it came down to Miggy making the playoffs and trout not making it.

**RandyMarsh** · 11-15-2012, 07:21 PM

Trout was the FIRST and ONLY player to hit 30HRs while leading the league in steals and runs. What makes that any less impressive than winning the Triple Crown? Because people nearly a century ago thought those 3 stats were most important? I mean don't get me wrong, I love Miggy but to vote for him just because he did something that hasn't been done in 45 years is extremely flawed because Trout did things that nobody in the history of the game have done.

**PuNk42AE** · 11-15-2012, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by TigerNation

He actually won because two LA voters voted Price 1st, Weaver 2nd, and JV 3rd.

JV wins if those two vote him 2nd, as Weaver as no argument for being even in the same league as JV this past season.

If JV was 2nd in those two votes he would have then lost by 2 points, instead of 4.

**waynr** · 11-15-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda

But who would have replaced hunter?

I dont know the Angels roster like I do the Tigers but If its a fictional player that is being used in the formula then You can come up with any kind of numbers you want. I think this WAR is the dumbest stat I have ever heard of. I do watch the games and From what I can see with my eyes is that Cabrera Is the best player in the game.

**Yoda** · 11-15-2012, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by waynr

I dont know the Angels roster like I do the Tigers but If its a fictional player that is being used in the formula then You can come up with any kind of numbers you want. I think this WAR is the dumbest stat I have ever heard of.

You can't call something dumb that you clearly don't understand. That's like me saying "I don't understand quantum physics but it's stupid!!"

It isn't just a made up, fictional set of numbers that varies from person to person.

I do watch the games and From what I can see with my eyes is that Cabrera Is the best player in the game.

Cool, so you watched all of Trout's games too?