2012 Awards Round-Up

[Yoda]

Maddux and Johnson both won 4 in a row, while Koufax, Lincecum, Palmer, Clemens (twice), and Martinez have all won two in a row. Countless other players have won two over a 3-year span. Point being, being a past winner doesn't hurt you.

[MC24]

JV should win but voters do love W-L record and ERA even if there is marginal difference between JV's and Price's

[Oblong]

Maddux and Johnson both won 4 in a row, while Koufax, Lincecum, Palmer, Clemens (twice), and Martinez have all won two in a row. Countless other players have won two over a 3-year span. Point being, being a past winner doesn't hurt you.

did they win 2 in a row when the opposition had a better record and comparable stats in everything else? I simply don't expect him to win it and I"ll be stunned, in a good way, if he does.

[JAYB]

Price wins 2012 Cy Young.

[djb6]

No surprise on the AL Cy Young. I was hoping for JV, but Price had a good year as well.

[PuNk42AE]

David Price and RA Dickey both deserve the Cy.

I get the feeling that tomorrow's AL MVP will be just as close as the AL Cy.

[brad22784]

JV losing the Cy Young just adds the salt to the wound of getting swept in the World Series. Let's hope Miggy can win the MVP tomorrow.

[Vonlenska]

I think JV got robbed. He was better in everything except ERA and wins, and pitched more innings.

[KCFITZ78]

I update my previous post with Rookie of the Year, Manager of the Year and Cy Young Award.

[Yoda]

did they win 2 in a row when the opposition had a better record and comparable stats in everything else? I simply don't expect him to win it and I"ll be stunned, in a good way, if he does.

Price won because the voters love W's and ERA, which is completely fine and not surprising. I just don't buy that it had anything to do with JV winning last year, and I certainly wouldn't have been "stunned" if JV did win. It ended up being pretty close!

[John_Brian_K]

*I will update this post here when awards are announced**

Hank Aaron Award
American League
Miguel Cabrera
National League
Buster Posey

Comeback Players
American League
Fernando Rodney
National League
Buster Posey

Clemente Award
Clayton Kershaw

Delivery Man of the Year
Fernando Rodney

Players Choice Awards
Player of the Year:
Miguel Cabrera, Tigers
Marvin Miller Man of the Year:
Chipper Jones, Braves
Outstanding Player, AL:
Miguel Cabrera, Tigers
Outstanding Player, NL:
Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
Outstanding Pitcher, AL:
David Price, Rays
Outstanding Pitcher, NL:
R.A. Dickey, Mets
Outstanding Rookie, AL:
Mike Trout, Angels
Outstanding Rookie, NL:
Todd Frazier, Reds
Comeback Player, AL:
Adam Dunn, White Sox
Comeback Player, NL:
Buster Posey, Giants

Wilson Defensive Players of the Year
AL East
BAL: J.J. Hardy, SS
BOS: Dustin Pedroia, 2B
NYY: Robinson Cano, 2B
TB: Jose Molina, C
TOR: Brett Lawrie, 3B
AL Central
CWS: Alexei Ramirez, SS
CLE: Jason Kipnis, 2B
DET: Austin Jackson, CF
KC: Lorenzo Cain, CF
MIN: Denard Span, CF
AL West
LAA: Mike Trout, CF
OAK: Josh Reddick, RF
SEA: Brendan Ryan, SS
TEX: Adrian Beltre, 3B
NL East
ATL: Michael Bourn, CF
MIA: Giancarlo Stanton, RF
NYM: David Wright, 3B
PHI: Carlos Ruiz, C
WAS: Adam LaRoche, 1B
NL Central
CHC: Darwin Barney, 2B
CIN: Brandon Phillips, 2B
HOU: Justin Maxwell, CF
MIL: Carlos Gomez, CF
PIT: Andrew McCutchen, CF
STL: Yadier Molina, C
NL West
ARI: Aaron Hill, 2B
COL: Carlos Gonzalez, LF
LAD: Matt Kemp, CF
SD: Chase Headley, 3B
SF: Brandon Crawford, SS


Rawlings Gold Glove
American League
C: Matt Wieters, BAL
1B: Mark Teixeira, NYY
2B: Robinson Cano, NYY
3B: Adrian Beltre, TEX
SS: J.J. Hardy, BAL
LF: Alex Gordon, KC
CF: Adam Jones, BAL
RF: Josh Reddick, OAK
P: Jeremy Hellickson, TB
P: Jake Peavy, CWS
National League
C: Yadier Molina, STL
1B: Adam LaRoche, WAS
2B: Darwin Barney, CHC
3B: Chase Headley, SD
SS: Jimmy Rollins, PHI
LF: Carlos Gonzalez, COL
CF: Andrew McCutchen, PIT
RF: Jason Heyward, ATL
P: Mark Buehrle, MIA

Louisville Silver Slugger
American League
C: A.J. Pierzynski
1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Robinson Cano
3B: Miguel Cabrera
SS: Derek Jeter
OF: Mike Trout
OF: Josh Willingham
OF: Josh Hamilton
DH: Billy Butler
National League
C: Buster Posey
1B: Adam LaRoche
2B: Aaron Hill
3B: Chase Headley
SS: Ian Desmond
OF: Andrew McCutchen
OF: Jay Bruce
OF: Ryan Braun
P: Stephen Strasburg

Manager of the Year
American League
Bob Melvin - OAK
National League
Davey Johnson - WAS

Rookie of the Year
American League
Mike Trout - LAA
National League
Bryce Harper - WAS

Cy Young Award
American League
David Price - TB
National League
R.A. Dickey - NYM

MVP Award
American League
Announced Nov. 15
National League
Announced Nov. 15

To save people the time of having to back up a page..

[Motor City Sonics]

8 hours until Mike Trout's MVP award makes this board angrier than ever.

[TigersSlappy]

Good Rosenberg article here:

Why Miguel Cabrera should win over Mike Trout - Michael Rosenberg - SI.com

[John_Brian_K]

8 hours until Mike Trout's MVP award makes this board angrier than ever.

We are on post #53 and the thread was started on 10/29/12.

If Cabby loses.....I predict 200 by Monday.

[Nastradamus]

Sabers suck man!

[Scottwood]

I'd expect sportswriters to vote for Cabrera. But, I won't be angry if he loses. In comparing the two, I'd be more angry that Verlander lost given that I think he is more deserving of the Cy Young than Cabrera is of the MVP.

I also don't really care either way because its subjective and inherently flawed given that it puts sportswriters in a position of authority. Sportswriters are supposed to be good at writing, conducting interviews, networking and getting information from people to report to their readers. I don't see what makes them qualified to decide who was the best pitcher or MVP of a particular season when very little of their job has to do with assessing a player's performance.

[DaYooperASBDT]

Two hours to go. I stone cold guarantee Miggy gets this - even with sportswriters involved. :-)

[froggyvk]

I'd expect sportswriters to vote for Cabrera. But, I won't be angry if he loses. In comparing the two, I'd be more angry that Verlander lost given that I think he is more deserving of the Cy Young than Cabrera is of the MVP.

I also don't really care either way because its subjective and inherently flawed given that it puts sportswriters in a position of authority. Sportswriters are supposed to be good at writing, conducting interviews, networking and getting information from people to report to their readers. I don't see what makes them qualified to decide who was the best pitcher or MVP of a particular season when very little of their job has to do with assessing a player's performance.

Yeah, if I had a vote it would be for Trout, but I am fairly confident Cabrera wins it, probably rather easily. Everyone is pegging this as a SABR vs. Traditional debate, new school vs. old school and it is outside of voting circles, but the baseball writers that have a say in this don't even understand what most of the sabermetric stats mean. The BBWAA writers that have votes have been writing for newspapers for a very long time... the saber argument wouldn't really be valid unless voting was also opened up to MLB.com reporters, and most of that stuff is still over their heads.

[Motor City Sonics]

Yeah, if I had a vote it would be for Trout, but I am fairly confident Cabrera wins it, probably rather easily. Everyone is pegging this as a SABR vs. Traditional debate, new school vs. old school and it is outside of voting circles, but the baseball writers that have a say in this don't even understand what most of the sabermetric stats mean. The BBWAA writers that have votes have been writing for newspapers for a very long time... the saber argument wouldn't really be valid unless voting was also opened up to MLB.com reporters, and most of that stuff is still over their heads.

I do think Miggy will win it, but to think if he just had two fewer home runs - Trout would win it in a landslide. That's how much that Triple Crown means.

Hey, Jeff Passan - go **** yourself.

[tiger337]

8 hours until Mike Trout's MVP award makes this board angrier than ever.

If they didn't freak out over Verlander losing, they shouldn't freak out over this. From what I've seen, this board will handle it better than other places anyway. Cabrera is probably going to win anyway, so it won't matter.

[Oblong]

Price won because the voters love W's and ERA, which is completely fine and not surprising. I just don't buy that it had anything to do with JV winning last year, and I certainly wouldn't have been "stunned" if JV did win. It ended up being pretty close!

I don't understand why you are being argumentative. The very reason why I thought it was a slam dunk for Price was because voters love W and ERA and considering JV already won it, that's just the thing they need to convince them that it's Price's year. That's what I thought would happen. As for what I think should have happened, it was about right. They were close. I'd have given it to JV but it's not at all a travesty that Price won. I am upset a bit but only becaus JV plays for my team.

[Motor City Sonics]

Price winning the Cy Young doesn't bother me at all. If I hate a vote I would have voted for him first and JV second. But don't doubt that the two Angels writers voting JV third had an agenda. Weaver will blow out like his brother did in another year or two.

[Motor City Sonics]

Come on man, you have got to be kidding me. His team doesn't even make the playoff and he gets 20 out of 28 first place votes?


(just practicing).

[Motor City Sonics]

Wow. Jason Beck is boring.

[Nolan]

Wow. Jason Beck is boring.

No kidding.

[MC24]

Twitter's going to explode if Miggy wins.

[Antrat]

Dicks at MLB Network are saving the AL MVP for last.

[TigersSlappy]

It's Posey for MVP

[TigersSlappy]

Joe Posnanski ‏@JPosnanski
"Yeah, sure, Lou Gehrig won the Triple Crown but I can think of FOUR GUYS better than him." Baseball Writer Tweets from 1934.

[Motor City Sonics]

MIGGY !!!!!!!

[Antrat]

If they don't have Miggy on cam for an interview before the announcement is made, that will be a bad sign.

[MC24]

If they don't have Miggy on cam for an interview before the announcement is made, that will be a bad sign.

Yup. I'm kind of getting the feeling that Trout won. Just a gut feeling.

[TigerNation]

Price won because the voters love W's and ERA, which is completely fine and not surprising. I just don't buy that it had anything to do with JV winning last year, and I certainly wouldn't have been "stunned" if JV did win. It ended up being pretty close!

He actually won because two LA voters voted Price 1st, Weaver 2nd, and JV 3rd.

JV wins if those two vote him 2nd, as Weaver as no argument for being even in the same league as JV this past season.

[Kamakzie]

If they don't have Miggy on cam for an interview before the announcement is made, that will be a bad sign.

There his is!

[Antrat]

Oh, boy. Just Trout is live.

[MC24]

Oh, boy. Just Trout is live.

Not a good sign

[Antrat]

Not a good sign

Nope. Not at all.

[Antrat]

There's Miggy!

[MC24]

Here's this:

Freep Sports ‏@freepsports

Miguel Cabrera is live in the MLB Network studio. #ALMVP announcement in about 15 minutes.

[TigersSlappy]

They've got Miggy live too.